Bullshit. If this guy had a grudge against patent violation due to previous experience, that's one issue, but saying that a 20-year-old case against a different company has any relevance here is a major stretch. And saying he had a tangle with Samsung when the case was with Seagate is utterly disingenuous.
No, this whole discussion is a religious war, pure and simple. Admit that and conduct yourselves with some honesty, for goodness sake. Yeah, we get it, you guys hate Apple and have a boner for Google. But it's really really boring to watch you twist every discussion and article on the web towards your agenda.
Well, it didn't stop this bullshit flamebait article submission from outright stating in the headline that the foreman preciously "tangled" with Samsung. Slashdot has literally become Idiocracy.
And another thing. Google, at whose altar you probably worship, is a motherfucking ADVERTISING company. And guess what one of their activities is? If you said "video ads" then you're correct! And guess who originates many of the video ads that my company's tech serves? Well, I'll be damned if it ain't, you guessed it, GOOGLE.
Browser stats, sir. We have moved on to browser stats. Nobody cares about your explanation for my train ride experience, as it's nothing more than an anecdote, and I only offered it as such.
So, have you an explanation for the fact that Wikipedia sees a half to a third of the worldwide traffic from Android as it does from iOS? Are two-thirds of those Android devices being used on some other internet? Do Android users simply not like browsing, as one idiot anonymous poster claimed above? Surely you cannot claim that Wikipedia is biased towards iOS users.
What the fuck does browser usage have to do with market share of a browsing device? Figure it out.
Yeah, advertising is annoying I agree. Sorry about that. But video ads are coming to the internet and that includes mobile devices. And I need a job, and this is a good one. So, fuck you too.
Enjoy hating the ads, I'm sure they will get you all lathered up.
I'm not talking about an app, I'm talking about a free mobile SDK for each platform, targeted at an existing customer base that spans the media and entertainment industries. Big names that you know, not a bunch of iOS developers that we have marketed to.
Sure it's anecdotal, I'm just saying we have had literally no interest in video advertising on Android, versus quite a bit on iOS. To me, that's a clear indication that Android is a less relevant platform in terms of usage. You're going to see that as baseless because you want Android to "win". But that's your issue.
Yeah, the train thing is completely anecdotal, but no more so than your statement that I see what I want to see. All I know is I look around and indefinitely do NOT see 68% Android. Maybe you're the one with Google-colored glasses on.
What's not anecdotal is browser stats. So...what's your explanation there?
We don't sell an app, these are free SDKs for use by existing customers.
Look, you can conjecture all you like about my anecdote, but what's your explanation for those browser stats? Surely Wikipedia should reflect this awesome Android groundswell? Why doesn't it?
And my company has plenty of customers outside of the US, so according to you we should be getting more interest in Android from them. But are we? No. I've heard nothing more than passing curiosity about integrating on Android, and I've certainly seen no interest from customers in actually investing time on it.
So, where is the evidence of Android raining down destruction upon iOS?
Ah, I see. So, Android users just don't use web browsers. Yeah, maybe that's a plausible argument in your happy Android fantasy land, but here on planet earth that's just laughable.
And, let's say that were true. Then I should be getting a ton of requests from our sizeable customer base to integrate our Android app SDK, right? Except...that's not happening at all.
What does US-centric have to do with it? I only mentioned US cities because this is a US-centric site. The data linked in my post is worldwide. Okay, how about some worldwide data from Wikipedia:
Yep, iOS is triple Android there too. I guess Wikipedia must be lying because they have a "pro-Apple bias"?
And what is your point, anyway? Are you saying that the 68% figure only applies worldwide, but not to the US? Because that's not what the supposed market share figures claim. My point is that, if this 68% meant what you frothed-up Apple haters claim it does, it would be matched in browser data, and in market interest in Android. But it's not. At all.
Any interest in actually speaking to that, or do you just want to rant about choo-choo trains?
And explain my company (video advertising) has had literally ZERO customer uptake of the app SDK we built for Android, versus many production integrations of our iOS SDK, despite feature parity between the two.
I know you Google fans are enjoying beating your chest, but this 68% number doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to actual usage. Ride the train in any major U.S. city and look around. Apple dominates the scene.
If Jobs were irrelevant, why would his name inspire such vitriol in people like you? If you truly believe Apple and Steve Jobs are insignificant, just move on to stuff that you think is important.
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Excel? You mean the application that was first released for Mac?
Idiot.
This site has become fucking pathetic.
Bullshit. If this guy had a grudge against patent violation due to previous experience, that's one issue, but saying that a 20-year-old case against a different company has any relevance here is a major stretch. And saying he had a tangle with Samsung when the case was with Seagate is utterly disingenuous.
No, this whole discussion is a religious war, pure and simple. Admit that and conduct yourselves with some honesty, for goodness sake. Yeah, we get it, you guys hate Apple and have a boner for Google. But it's really really boring to watch you twist every discussion and article on the web towards your agenda.
Google what? His point is that it's NOT relevant, which is true. Oh, right, it's relevant to your Apple-hate. Sorry, carry on.
Well, it didn't stop this bullshit flamebait article submission from outright stating in the headline that the foreman preciously "tangled" with Samsung. Slashdot has literally become Idiocracy.
English would be a start.
Joke's on you. Nobody goes two shits about your awesome anti-ad strategy. Seriously. You are in a tiny minority. Nobody cares.
Not "yes". "No preference indicated".
Why do that, instead of loading content directly?
Why would you need to use iTunes?
So how does an IE10 user express "I don't care about DNT"? MS has decided for them.
That works both ways.
Archaic web browsers? iOS doesn't have an appropriate app for Wikipedia? Jesus, dude, you can't possibly be serious.
Okay, I give up, you're in looney land, so please just stay there.
And another thing. Google, at whose altar you probably worship, is a motherfucking ADVERTISING company. And guess what one of their activities is? If you said "video ads" then you're correct! And guess who originates many of the video ads that my company's tech serves? Well, I'll be damned if it ain't, you guessed it, GOOGLE.
Browser stats, sir. We have moved on to browser stats. Nobody cares about your explanation for my train ride experience, as it's nothing more than an anecdote, and I only offered it as such.
So, have you an explanation for the fact that Wikipedia sees a half to a third of the worldwide traffic from Android as it does from iOS? Are two-thirds of those Android devices being used on some other internet? Do Android users simply not like browsing, as one idiot anonymous poster claimed above? Surely you cannot claim that Wikipedia is biased towards iOS users.
What the fuck does browser usage have to do with market share of a browsing device? Figure it out.
Yeah, advertising is annoying I agree. Sorry about that. But video ads are coming to the internet and that includes mobile devices. And I need a job, and this is a good one. So, fuck you too.
Enjoy hating the ads, I'm sure they will get you all lathered up.
I'm not talking about an app, I'm talking about a free mobile SDK for each platform, targeted at an existing customer base that spans the media and entertainment industries. Big names that you know, not a bunch of iOS developers that we have marketed to.
Sure it's anecdotal, I'm just saying we have had literally no interest in video advertising on Android, versus quite a bit on iOS. To me, that's a clear indication that Android is a less relevant platform in terms of usage. You're going to see that as baseless because you want Android to "win". But that's your issue.
Yeah, the train thing is completely anecdotal, but no more so than your statement that I see what I want to see. All I know is I look around and indefinitely do NOT see 68% Android. Maybe you're the one with Google-colored glasses on.
What's not anecdotal is browser stats. So...what's your explanation there?
We don't sell an app, these are free SDKs for use by existing customers.
Look, you can conjecture all you like about my anecdote, but what's your explanation for those browser stats? Surely Wikipedia should reflect this awesome Android groundswell? Why doesn't it?
Except that the browser stats I posted aren't US-only, they're worldwide. As are these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Wikimedia_.28April_2009_to_present.29
And my company has plenty of customers outside of the US, so according to you we should be getting more interest in Android from them. But are we? No. I've heard nothing more than passing curiosity about integrating on Android, and I've certainly seen no interest from customers in actually investing time on it.
So, where is the evidence of Android raining down destruction upon iOS?
Ah, I see. So, Android users just don't use web browsers. Yeah, maybe that's a plausible argument in your happy Android fantasy land, but here on planet earth that's just laughable.
And, let's say that were true. Then I should be getting a ton of requests from our sizeable customer base to integrate our Android app SDK, right? Except...that's not happening at all.
Must be a nice bubble you live in.
What does US-centric have to do with it? I only mentioned US cities because this is a US-centric site. The data linked in my post is worldwide. Okay, how about some worldwide data from Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Wikimedia_.28April_2009_to_present.29
Yep, iOS is triple Android there too. I guess Wikipedia must be lying because they have a "pro-Apple bias"?
And what is your point, anyway? Are you saying that the 68% figure only applies worldwide, but not to the US? Because that's not what the supposed market share figures claim. My point is that, if this 68% meant what you frothed-up Apple haters claim it does, it would be matched in browser data, and in market interest in Android. But it's not. At all.
Any interest in actually speaking to that, or do you just want to rant about choo-choo trains?
Yeah, because it's well known that advertisers only market to people who "like" ads. Brilliant analysis, sir. You got me.
Okay, if Android is crushing Apple so badly, explain this:
http://netmarketshare.com/browser-market-share.aspx?qprid=1&qpcustomb=1
And explain my company (video advertising) has had literally ZERO customer uptake of the app SDK we built for Android, versus many production integrations of our iOS SDK, despite feature parity between the two.
I know you Google fans are enjoying beating your chest, but this 68% number doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to actual usage. Ride the train in any major U.S. city and look around. Apple dominates the scene.
Show us your tits!
Uh, actually no. Please don't.
If Jobs were irrelevant, why would his name inspire such vitriol in people like you? If you truly believe Apple and Steve Jobs are insignificant, just move on to stuff that you think is important.