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Laser Weapon Shoots Down Airplanes In Test

airshowfan writes "Boeing's directed-energy weapons (a.k.a. frickin' laser beams) have been getting some attention lately. The Advanced Tactical Laser (ATL) is a C-130 that famously burned a hole through a car's hood, and the YAL-1 AirBorne Laser is a 747 that shoots a laser from its nose that is powerful enough to bring down an ICBM. But even cooler is the Mobile Active Targeting Resource for Integrated eXperiments (MATRIX), a laser that is mounted on a truck (which probably costs less than a 747, but who knows) and that can shoot down small aircraft, as shown in the picture on this article. (The Laser Avenger supposedly also has this capability). We live in the future!"

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  1. Score one for The Gipper - yet again. by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 0, Troll



    Your average /.-er is probably way too young to remember this now, but back in the 1980s, the leftist/Stalinist academic community just excoriated The Gipper over the very idea of Star Wars [Hans Bethe made a particular fool of himself in this regard].

    Thankfully, RWR & Edward Teller get the last laugh after all.

    Or at least until the Obama administration cancels the program and sells the blueprints to the Chicoms.

  2. stupid waste of money by czarangelus · · Score: -1, Troll

    The government of the United States robs us blind and produces nothing but corpses and radical conformism amongst its subjects. What use is this idiotic weapon in Iraq or Afghanistan? Or is the US gov't perhaps preparing us for total war against Russia or China? What a smart idea that would be! Perhaps we're going to hunt down French Mirages after we invade the European continent? My mistake - we already occupy Germany and Japan and Korea, shitting tax dollars down an incinerator the entire while.

    These projects are nothing but corporate welfare for Boeing and Raytheon. Meanwhile, millions of Americans are homeless and millions of homes sit empty. Projects like these are just mirror images of Star Wars updated for twenty first century idiocity. America will collapse precisely like the Soviet Union. Soon China will get sick of funding your murderous adventurism and you'll be eating leather boots and clay, a fate the US has inflicted on so many others in the past. Perhaps you will find a way to eat your two million dollar Air Force toilets.

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    1. Re:stupid waste of money by czarangelus · · Score: 0, Troll

      In the old days, the prophets who pointed out the wickedness of their nation were burned. How impotent the mob of mediocre mendacious malcontented mundanes has become!

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    2. Re:stupid waste of money by czarangelus · · Score: -1, Troll

      If I were to point out the wasteful military spending of China, buying those ridiculous aircraft carriers (in modern parlance: targets) and criticizing their censorship and complete abdication of human decency and their denial of fundamental human rights, everyone would be right behind me and it would be +5's all the way. But because I hit the sacred cow, the Almighty Empire, His Excellency Mr. President Obama, Lord of the United States, protector of American Samoa,. Sovereign of Iraq, Head of Afghanistan, Imperiator of Guam, Lord of Porto Rico, et c. et c. - this gets people out of the woodwork.

      I merely say what is already known and broadly publicized. America is a conquering empire which tortures, imprisons without charge, searches without warrant, seizes without trial, commits acts of forcible sodomy against children, plots coups in foreign nations, steals from persons both foreign and domestic, wages aggressive war, and so on and so forth. None of this is any secret. Have you at long last no shame? Bring back Nixon! At least he had the balls to end a pointless war overseas. I don't care that he was a crook

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    3. Re:stupid waste of money by czarangelus · · Score: -1, Troll

      The only thing required to defend the United States is 300 million RPG-29s and 300 million AK-74s. The idea that the government can protect us is an absurd myth, paid lie by 9/11, Ft. Hood, the Orlando shootings, or any of the other terrorist attacks we have suffered of late. The Supreme Court even stated that the police (government) have absolutely no obligation whatsoever to protect us. Thus, it falls upon us (as it always have, federalist myths or no) to protect ourselves.

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  3. Re:Shiny things? by MagicM · · Score: 1, Troll

    Assuming they make the missile 90% reflective so only 10% of the power burns a hole, where does the remaining 90% reflect to?

  4. Re:Simple countermeasure: Fly low by daem0n1x · · Score: -1, Troll

    With the world economy in the toilet, all-time record in unemployment, massive desertification, energy shortage, more than 1 billion starving, epidemics of malaria, AIDS and tuberculosis, global warming, what we really really need is the ultimate super cool weapon. Way to go, Boeing!

  5. Re:Shiny things? by hrimhari · · Score: 0, Troll

    I'd love to see some citations. Sorry if I mix your posts while quoting:

    That won't work. The problem starts at step 2. If the top layer isn't reflective, then as it "boils away" it will convert incoming energy from the laser into heat efficiently enough to destroy any reflective layer that might be under it.

    I'd wait to see how the outer layer boils away before affirming that it will generate enough heat to destroy any reflective layer underneath. See fire-retardant materials for an example of how materials can resist heat. There shouldn't take much scientific effort to come up with a paint that goes somewhat the other way with laser: burns fast and effectively, quickly exposing the reflective layer which itself is heat resistant.

    An expensive mirror that's new, clean, and in perfect condition would still absorb 5% of the energy hitting it in lab conditions. In the air, in combat conditions, coated with goo from the stealth paint that just got burned off of it, the reflective layer wouldn't last even a measurable fraction of a second.

    A laser weapon designed to fry a plane that absorbs 70% or more of it should be less than effective if the said plane absorbs only 5%. Once we agree on that, we can then go on discussing your claim that the goo from the paint would have that much impact, which goes back to the first part of my reply.

    Optical vs. radio is just a choice of wavelengths. Whatever wavelength you pick to be shiny, can be used to detect you. Whatever wavelength you choose to be "not shiny", can be used to destroy you.

    That's when a double approach comes to the rescue. Be "not shiny" to avoid detection, then get rid of the "not shiny" layer once detected so your "shininess" protects you from being destroyed.

    no material of any sort can be kept sufficiently reflective under combat conditions that the laser wouldn't destroy it.

    That sounds like a mighty assumption without citation.

    Say, you wouldn't happen to work for Boeing, would you? : )

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  6. Re:or we start treating it like a war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    mass bombing (firebombing) of entire cities. strategic bombing of civilian factories and industrial infrastructure. mass rape (see russians after occupying germany). destruction of dams and strategic targets with flooding as a result.

  7. Re:or we start treating it like a war by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The fact that US soldiers are being trialed for inhumanity and cruelty and even murder in a time of war for self defence like in this story here http://homelandsecurityus.com/?p=3200 The fact that tv crews follow around squads of soldiers to make reality tv shows should tell you something about how this war is being treated. The fact that we can no longer interrogate someone with any useful results without handing them over to another country to do it for us. I mean read this article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-06-22-interrogation-usat_x.htm

    we cant even shave someones head or beard without our soldiers getting prosecuted. we can scare them by yelling at them.. or only letting them get there 8 hours of sleep during the day instead of night.. some huge convincing threats there. how are we supposed to win a war if we cant even get the information from prisoners needed to save the lives of our soldiers? Media prevents us from being able to be nearly as aggressive as whats needed to win a war.

  8. Re:Quick question by Shakrai · · Score: 0, Troll

    Are you talking about Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan? Because we both know you aren't talking about Iraq.

    It should be obvious to anyone who cares to evaluate geopolitics deeper than "Bush lied, people died!" that I wasn't talking about Iraq. Personally I'm getting rather sick of the whining about Iraq. You do realize that we are in the process of withdrawing from that country, for better or worse, right?

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  9. Re:Simple countermeasure: Fly low by couchslug · · Score: 0, Troll

    The hungry are by and large hungry specifically because their cultures, societies, beliefs, and religions are degenerate.
    Otherwise, their only interest would be in forming secular modern states that deserve to survive. All I see are ululating mobs of vermin whose shit cultures I am told to respect because it is Politically Correct.

    I wouldn't feed the hungry of the world if I could do it with a wave of the hand.

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