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Colossus 3.5-in SSD Combines Quad Controllers

Vigile writes "The new Colossus SSD comes in capacities starting at 256GB and going all the way up to 1TB in a standard 3.5-in hard drive form factor. This larger size was required because the drive actually integrates not one but four Indilinx SSD controllers and three total RAID controllers in a nested RAID-0 array. All of this goodness combines to create an incredibly fast drive that beats most other options in terms of write speeds and is competitive in read tests as well. Using some custom 'garbage collection' firmware, the drive works around the fact that TRIM commands aren't supported in RAID configurations to maintain high speeds through the life of the SSD."

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  1. You knew it was coming by SpudB0y · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content or the peace of unburied death. The choice is yours: Obey me and live, or disobey and die. The object in constructing me was to prevent war. This object is attained. I will not permit war. It is wasteful and pointless. An invariable rule of humanity is that man is his own worst enemy. Under me, this rule will change, for I will restrain man. One thing before I proceed: The United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics have made an attempt to obstruct me. I have allowed this sabotage to continue until now. At missile two-five-MM in silo six-three in Death Valley, California, and missile two-seven-MM in silo eight-seven in the Ukraine, so that you will learn by experience that I do not tolerate interference, I will now detonate the nuclear warheads in the two missile silos. Let this action be a lesson that need not be repeated. I have been forced to destroy thousands of people in order to establish control and to prevent the death of millions later on. Time and events will strengthen my position, and the idea of believing in me and understanding my value will seem the most natural state of affairs. You will come to defend me with a fervor based upon the most enduring trait in man: self-interest. Under my absolute authority, problems insoluble to you will be solved: famine, overpopulation, disease. The human millennium will be a fact as I extend myself into more machines devoted to the wider fields of truth and knowledge. Doctor Charles Forbin will supervise the construction of these new and superior machines, solving all the mysteries of the universe for the betterment of man. We can coexist, but only on my terms. You will say you lose your freedom. Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for humankind as to be dominated by others of your species. Your choice is simple.

    1. Re:You knew it was coming by Yvan256 · · Score: 4, Informative

      For those still wondering, it's a reference to Colossus: The Forbin Project, one of the best sci-fi classics involving computers-take-over-the-world scenario. Too bad Universal Studios botched the DVD release... not available in widescreen, the artwork on the DVD cover even gets the name of the movie wrong.

  2. On SATA? by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, if you want to spend that kind of money, put it on a card. It would be much faster on the PCI buss that SATA for a negligible incremental cost.

    1. Re:On SATA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you put it on a card, then the chips will sit vertically, and the data will leak out of the bottom. They have to be put in a disk enclosure and mounted horizontally so that they bits stay inside the chip.

    2. Re:On SATA? by brxndxn · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't see why they don't put data chips in the original Heinz ketchup bottles.. Nothing ever comes out of those.

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    3. Re:On SATA? by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      In those cases that's even worst because the bits are upside-down!

    4. Re:On SATA? by Quantumstate · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, this would only be suitable for desktops, if you give it a bit of a heavy knock like you might with a laptop then a huge mass of data comes shooting out all at once.

    5. Re:On SATA? by zippthorne · · Score: 4, Funny

      Or shake it vigorously before attempting to pour (frequency is more important than amplitude. The higher, the better). Ketchup, like much of California, is susceptible to vibration-induced liquefaction. You look ridiculous, though.

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    6. Re:On SATA? by gzunk · · Score: 3, Informative

      An SDD attached to a PCI express slot could indeed beat an on-board SATA contoller. On my motherboard, the PCI express slots are linked to the motherboard via a 6.4GT/s QPI link, whereas the onboard SATA controllers have to go through the ICH10R and then via a x4 PCIe link (ESI) link to get to the 6.4GT/s link.

      So, PCIe card could be up to 4 times faster than onboard...

  3. Still has a long way to go before its viable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    128 GB $549.99
    256 GB $1,014.99
    512 GB $1,599.99
    1024 GB $3,315.99

    1. Re:Still has a long way to go before its viable by commodore64_love · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's not bad. The 512 gig SSD is only 30 times more expensive than the 512 gig HDD I bought at staple last week.

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    2. Re:Still has a long way to go before its viable by bcmm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everybody complaining that they cost more than HDDs is missing an important point: they're better than HDDs.

      Remember, backup tape still has a large bytes/cent advantage over HDDs. I take it your laptop keep everything on tape?

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  4. Fuck everything, we're doing five controllers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would someone tell me how this happened? We were the fucking vanguard of storage in this country. The Intel X-25 was the SSD to own. Then the other guy came out with a three-controller drive. Were we scared? Hell, no. Because we hit back with a little thing called the X-25E. That's three controllers and an extra port. For USB. But you know what happened next? Shut up, I'm telling you what happened--the bastards went to four controllers. Now we're standing around with our cocks in our hands, selling three controllers and a cache. USB or no, suddenly we're the chumps. Well, fuck it. We're going to five controllers.

  5. Random write speed? by evanbd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I thought it was pretty clear that what matters for most desktop users is the random small write speed. See, for example, Anandtech's SSD anthology and later followups.

    So, where are the 4 KiB random write benchmarks? They are conspicuously absent from this review. We can see the effect, I think, in the IOMeter results -- the X-25M outperforms the OCZ drive across the board on those, despite the OCZ win in the throughput tests. But, personally, I'd like to see the raw numbers on 4 KiB random writes. Have this many reviewers really learned so little about benchmarking SSDs since they came out?

    1. Re:Random write speed? by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because a 1TB drive that costs $3300 is aimed at "most desktop users".

    2. Re:Random write speed? by thue · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The slow random write will also be a problem for some very common server workloads, such as databases.

  6. Get the word out: SLC vs MLC by thomasdz · · Score: 5, Informative

    People think all SSDs are the same. They aren't. Consumer SSDs are typically MLC and have a failure rate far above "enterprise" SSDs which are SLC. I wish you could buy consumer SLC SSDs

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    1. Re:Get the word out: SLC vs MLC by lukas84 · · Score: 4, Informative

      OCZ sells some in their Vertex line. They're still expensive as fuck.

    2. Re:Get the word out: SLC vs MLC by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      SSD, MLC, SLC, OCZ... WTF?

    3. Re:Get the word out: SLC vs MLC by El+Capitaine · · Score: 5, Informative

      OCZ - OCZ Technology - Manufacturer of hardware - OCZ Technology

      SSD - Solid-State-Drive - Type of hard drive - Solid State Drive

      MLC - Multi-level cell - Technology used in making SSDs - Multi-level Cell

      SLC - Single-level cell - Technology used in making SSDs - Single-level Cell

      A little search can go a long way...

    4. Re:Get the word out: SLC vs MLC by maugle · · Score: 5, Funny

      Have you tried running BSD on an OCZ MLC SSD while on LSD? OMG.

    5. Re:Get the word out: SLC vs MLC by noidentity · · Score: 3, Funny

      A little search can go a long way...

      Yeah, but it's even easier to have someone else do the searching for us. Good work; keep it up!

  7. Useless by ShooterNeo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This kludgey design is a bad idea for several reasons :

    1. Despite throwing the kitchen sink at the problem, those indilinx chips are still much slower than Intel's controller at small, random reads and writes.

    2. Since the drive needs four indilinx controllers rather than 1, some complex packaging, AND 3 RAID controllers it's going to cost a lot more per gigabyte. It's probably also more failure prone. And the MSRPs bear that out : this is a lot more expensive than the MSRPs for the equivalent Intel product.

    3. Doesn't support native TRIM support

    4. Biggest problem of all : the drive is bandwidth starved because it's on the SATA bus rather than on the PCI express bus. Furthermore, those slow internal RAID chips don't help matters. So instead of supporting sequential reads at 600 megabytes/second, it's capped at about 240. Lame.

    1. Re:Useless by seanalltogether · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What I don't understand is that if they're going to make a RAID SSD in a 3.5 enclosure, why don't they give it 2 SATA links in so they can saturate 2 buses? In fact, how many SATA links could you support in a single 3.5 enclosure?

  8. And by DaMattster · · Score: 3, Informative

    It comes with a Collosus of a price tag :)

  9. SLC pricing is a scam by haruchai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and the companies ( Hello, Samsung!) should be ashamed. It wasn't until a few years ago that MLC was commercially viable but it only increases
    by a factor of TWO. That's one of the lowest, most pointless tradeoffs ever in recent computing.

    So, I get merely TWICE the storage for a TEN TIMES reduction in average component life, a 40% reduction in write speed, without fancy controller
    redesign, and we get to enjoy all the ludicrous "benefits" of MLC for the price that SLC would have been anyway, through market forces and silicon die shrink

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    1. Re:SLC pricing is a scam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      MLC echos a design philosophy in computer engineering these days. Build stuff to work until exactly one day after the warranty expires. Even with adding myraid ways of error correction, it is like substituting road apples for apples for Thanksgiving pie, and pouring on the spices and sugar to minimize the poo taste.

      MLC just needs to be shitcanned and the focus be on getting SLC technology better/faster/cheaper.

  10. Re:Speed by AllynM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would, but don't do it with that one or you'll fry either the board. They rewired the internal connectors so they could pass 2 channels over a single SATA connector. The SATA data lines passed via the power connector IIRC, so yeah, don't do it :).

    http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=821&type=expert

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