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US Air Force Buying Another 2,200 PS3s

bleedingpegasus sends word that the US Air Force will be grabbing up 2,200 new PlayStation 3 consoles for research into supercomputing. They already have a cluster made from 336 of the old-style (non-Slim) consoles, which they've used for a variety of purposes, including "processing multiple radar images into higher resolution composite images (known as synthetic aperture radar image formation), high-def video processing, and 'neuromorphic computing.'" According to the Justification Review Document (DOC), "Once the hardware configuration is implemented, software code will be developed in-house for cluster implementation utilizing a Linux-based operating software."

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  1. Wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe someone should tell them the new ones don't run Linux.

    1. Re:Wow by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

      They already know they don't run Linux, they just to play Uncharted 2 and Demon's Souls.

    2. Re:Wow by TheDarAve · · Score: 5, Funny

      Its the Air Force, it'd be an Airwolf cluster.

    3. Re:Wow by TheDarAve · · Score: 3, Funny

      I just had a scary thought of instead of using linux, they just program a "UAV flight game" and leave them in various Air Force recreation centers.

    4. Re:Wow by Sebilrazen · · Score: 3, Funny

      Ala Last Starfighter?

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    5. Re:Wow by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 3, Funny

      So. Just in time for Xmas. The Airforce of the United States is depriving children of consoles at the peak of season?

      That's 2,200 children who will wake up, sad and dissapointed - with a boxing day that brings only an electric train set, or an iPod touch.

      I weep for the dead children in Afghanistan and the empty stockings of children on the American home front.

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    6. Re:Wow by kriston · · Score: 3, Informative

      Did we read the proposal linked from the article? It specifies PlayStation 3 model CECHP01 which does, indeed, run Linux. I wondered, though, how successful they are going to be at finding 2,200 units. Distributors are running out of new/old stock of this model, as many compute cluster builders are trying to get them before they're all gone.

      Here is the proposal for those who didn't actually bother to RFA:
      https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=bac60f8808fa1e221597573901a7cd6b&tab=core&_cview=1&cck=1&au=&ck=

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  2. Loss for Sony? by SlothDead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since Sony's strategy (like Microsoft's) is to sell the consoles below production costs and make money on the games I guess that they are now pretty angry about organizations buying PS3s solely for computing...

    1. Re:Loss for Sony? by RogueyWon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is only true for the start of a console cycle. By this point, Sony and MS should at worst be breaking even on console sales and probably having a bit of profit. Component prices fall dramatically over the course of the typical 5-year console cycle.

  3. Re:Cell processor by huge · · Score: 3, Informative

    Are we still at the point where we can't get hold of Cell processors for machines specifically designed for this sort of task?

    I haven't checked the details yet, but I was told that IBM QS21 is Cell based blade system

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  4. Re:Cell processor by emilper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They would buy Cell processors, but then then it would take an year and a half for the papers to be processed, six month for IBM and Dep.Def. to spec the systems, and about two years while competitors contest the order ... everything costing about 10 times as much for one half of the computing power, and would not be able to run much else besides floating point calculations.

    BTW, has anybody tried DwarfFortress on a PS3 ?

     

  5. Black Friday Deals! by upto0013 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They should wait for Black Friday, nobody is going to fight the Air Force for a doorbuster...

    1. Re:Black Friday Deals! by MichaelSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

      Except the Army?

  6. Re:Cell processor by umghhh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suppose if they ordered a system designed specifically for their purpose it would cost a dozen millions more on top of this half that you mentioned and then they still had to do in house software stated in the summary. So indeed they saved some - even if you consider all the military expense a nonsense anyway it was still half a mil wasted instead of a dozen.

  7. Not much stopping them really by ciroknight · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the US Government we're talking about. One of the few entities on the planet where "Budget" is virtually meaningless. Someone sneezes funny and a million dollars goes out the door. How much do you think it'd cost to financially compel Sony to enabling Linux installs on their machines? Exactly how much does a PS3 dev-kit license cost again? How hard to do you think it'd be to get a judge to sign some order compelling Sony to releasing the schematics to the US Government under NDA, so that they can write and maintain their own Linux loader for the machine?

    Even if the cost of the above was in the lower 8-digit range without the machines included, which I really doubt, it'd likely be cheaper to source these machines than it would be to develop your own hybrid compute node and software for it (or nVidia's crazy-expensive, less mature solution).

    Sony doesn't support Linux on these machines, which makes it practically impossible for the home user to boot Linux on them. (Well, tbh, 'improbable', look at how much reverse engineering has happened with the GameCube & Wii). But for someone with deep enough pockets, like say a government agency, it's almost trivial.

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