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What Drugs Do Astronauts Take?

astroengine writes "Science fiction is stuffed full of examples of pill-popping space explorers and aliens enjoying psychedelic highs. After all, space is big; it can get boring/scary/crazy up there. It's little wonder, then, that our current space explorers consume a cocktail of uppers, downers, tranquilizers and alcohol to get the job done. Robert Lamb on tranquilizers in the space station: 'Sure, it hardly makes for a civilized evening aboard ISS, but it beats someone blowing the hatch because they think they saw something crawling on one of the solar panels.'"

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  1. ah duct tape.... by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That ever useful tool. However would we have gone to the stars without it?

    Yes, according to a 2007 report from the Associated Press, astronauts keep a few tranqs on hand in case anyone goes all suicidal or psychotic in space. NASA recommends binding the individual's wrists and ankles with duct tape (ever the space traveler's friend!), strapping them down with a bungee cord and, if necessary, sticking them with a tranquilizer.

    Has any sci-fi show other than Firefly ever mentioned duct tape?

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    1. Re:ah duct tape.... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      That ever useful tool. However would we have gone to the stars without it?

      Yes, according to a 2007 report from the Associated Press, astronauts keep a few tranqs on hand in case anyone goes all suicidal or psychotic in space. NASA recommends binding the individual's wrists and ankles with duct tape (ever the space traveler's friend!), strapping them down with a bungee cord and, if necessary, sticking them with a tranquilizer.

      Has any sci-fi show other than Firefly ever mentioned duct tape?

      Dunno but I just watched a Mythbusters episode where Adam and Jamie built a sailing boat almost entirely out of the stuff and sailed it on SF Harbour.

      Subduing a crazy crewmember in a Gemini or an Apollo LM would certainly have been ...interesting.

    2. Re:ah duct tape.... by mrsurb · · Score: 5, Informative

      If it's not supposed to move but does... use duct tape.
      If it is supposed to move but doesn't... use WD40.

    3. Re:ah duct tape.... by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Interesting

      FWIW, when I was in the [USN] Submarine Service, we were prepared to do the same thing if a crew member went off the rails. (Though the doc had a couple of sets of soft restraints we'd use instead of tape.)
       
      That being said, we did use 'EB Green' (a tape that makes the useless crap falsely sold to John Q public as 'duct tape' look like tissue paper) for a wide variety of things.

    4. Re:ah duct tape.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ripley duct taped a flamethrower to an assault rifle in Aliens.

    5. Re:ah duct tape.... by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Informative

      WD-40 is good stuff but for really stuck/rusty machinery, Zepreserve is better. No connection to Zep, Inc., I just work at a place that harvests and processes salt and so have to deal with a whole lot of rusty machinery.

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    6. Re:ah duct tape.... by Skal+Tura · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Currently the only reason my car still goes forward is duct tape holding a crucial sensor in place .... Due to it being a hot place, every few weeks attach a bit more so it's tight and nice again...

      Oh and that works better than using the original attachment screws which fell out due to vibration ...

      Best of all: This car is being used for snow racing ...

    7. Re:ah duct tape.... by shiftless · · Score: 4, Informative

      If it is supposed to move but doesn't... use WD40.

      [pedant]

      WD40 is actually terrible for this job. It was originally invented to be sprayed on metal parts to prevent them from rusting, and it works well for that. It's not a good lubricant though nor does it penetrate corrosion very well. On moving parts it attracts and holds in dirt and "dries out" within a relatively short period, leaving the part binding/squeaking worse than before. For a rust penetrant, use something like PB Blaster or Sea Foam. For a lubricant, use oil or something designed specifically for that purpose.

      [/pedant]

  2. You ever... by turing_m · · Score: 5, Funny

    You ever watch C beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser Gate... on weed?

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  3. New technical problems on the ISS . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 3, Funny

    . . . the bong is busted. First the bog, and now the bong . . . hopefully the crack pipe will keep going . . .

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    1. Re:New technical problems on the ISS . . . by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      High school kids fabricate bongs out of the oddest bits and pieces, often from what's available wherever they happen to be. I would hope our astronauts are at least as talented and resourceful.

    2. Re:New technical problems on the ISS . . . by shiftless · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The only problem I can foresee with bongs in space: no gravity!

    3. Re:New technical problems on the ISS . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      this actually makes me want to design a gravity independent water pipe specifically for space to ... um. ...determine the absorption and release of a variety of chemicals and their effect on human consciousness in space. perhaps we'll call it the Puff Independent Gravity Smoke System or PIGSS in Space.

  4. Dude.... by Paxtez · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm not sure what they take, but whatever they are, they are out of this world...

    1. Re:Dude.... by Z1NG · · Score: 2, Funny

      They definitely get high...

  5. Please untie all of this duct tape! by WGFCrafty · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that.

    Please do try a diazepam or alprazolam Dave, they will surely calm you down.

  6. Don't worry by lastgoodnickname · · Score: 2, Funny

    If there's one thing I can do, man, is fly when I'm stoned

    1. Re:Don't worry by Baron_Yam · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah... I'm still not sure it counts as merely 'stoned' when the cumulative mass of the lines of coke you've just snorted is several times greater than that of your body.

  7. Don't forget the viagra by syousef · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...for all the secret space sex experiments the NASA conspiracy nuts think are going on, and because they need to keep their bat servicable when they casually let it slip that they're an astronaut in all the bars around KSC.

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  8. They snort Tang by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 2, Funny

    Orange flavor

  9. Blood of Christ? by maggotbrain_777 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Aldrin took communion on the moon? I had never heard that.

  10. Obligatory by srussia · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Do they smoke grass out in space, Bowie? Or do they smoke astroturf?

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  11. Fox News ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    WTF is slashdot doing linking to an article from Fox News?
    It's bad enough linking to UK stories from the Daily Mail, but Faux News is taking the piss.

    .

  12. They use marijuana syringes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know this 'coz once, my grandfather, who built space ships with us in our sofa when we were kids, found a marijuana syringe on the moon.

  13. One drug is certain by JamesP · · Score: 3, Informative

    Antiemetics (that is, anti-throw-up / anti-motion-sickness)

    Not having gravity to "set things straight" can mess things up royally (in several ways)

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  14. Lies, Damn Lies and "Science" Articles by DynaSoar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps it's my limited understanding of the word "do" at fault. I can only think of it in the present tense, rather than the future conditionals attached to such as "might". This leads me to have all kinds of misunderstandings, like wondering why they're taking pills to counteract a dust (!) that nobody's been closer than 230,000 miles to in the last 40 years. Or why the articles blathers on about zombies and CIA truth serum when talking about a sleeping/motion sickness pill that's been OTC for longer than NASA has been chartered. Or why NASA is having them take a "cocktail" to "get the job done" which would, if the description is accurate, prevent the job from getting done if not kill them (alcohol + uppers + downers + tranqs? Anyone remember Karen Ann Quinlan?). Quoting details from the equally unqualified and/or wrong doesn't dilute the article's idiocy. The content could have made a perfectly good article. Too bad the writer felt unequal to the job of writing a real article as you'd expect in a science magazine.

    This article should be in "Entertainment". Or, if we're to keep such trash under science, we should have some subclasses that apply, like 'bullshit', 'lies', and 'science? what's that?'. Or maybe we just need to change the "news for nerds, stuff that matters" to "stuff that might fit into the popular subjects here, and might be real, or not; we're not sure, we don't read it".

    Is this the result of voting on suitability of submissions? If so, maybe we ought to look into having editors that actually know something about the area they cover and approve articles based on content rather than side effects. It appears that ironically 'games' is getting more serious treatment than 'science'. Part of the problem is the 'science' articles being written, such as TFA. But the fix for that is the same fix for including decent science articles.

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    1. Re:Lies, Damn Lies and "Science" Articles by nxtw · · Score: 3, Informative

      Besides, exactly what available drugs can enhance your ability to operate heavy machinery? I'm pretty sure anything with alcohol is out, and narcotics too. I can't think of anything stronger than what's in an energy drink, even those can be trouble if you're not careful.

      Stimulants or similar drugs; all the good ones are controlled substances. Specifically, the linked Discovery News article says the astronauts take modafinil, which is approved in the US for those with sleep disorders but useful for many other conditions as well. Modafinil can be used in many situations where ampetamine/methylphenidate and friends could be used instead, and typically with less side effects. Also, the Discovery News article mentions dexedrine. Any of these drugs are likely to improve mental performance when used properly; although I must say it's unfair that astronauts get to use modafinil off-label when people know it can be effective for other conditions.

      Caffeine is rather weak compared to these (scheduled) drugs, and has side effects of its own. Energy drinks might just create more problems - I've only used them a few times - and most of the time I felt worse afterwards. If I need to consume caffeine, I stick with pills (around a hundred times cheaper than energy drinks!) or coffee.

      When taken at the doses needed to be effective, caffeine has more side effects than any of the scheduled substances I've used. (I've been addicted to caffeine since high school.) Of course, caffeine is usually consumed in the form of beverages or cheap pills, not expensive pills with gradual release mechanisms that reduce the effects of a large initial dose and sharp drop-off.

    2. Re:Lies, Damn Lies and "Science" Articles by CaptDeuce · · Score: 2, Funny
      Our fine Slashdot poster says,

      This article should be in "Entertainment".

      It is a light hearted article to be sure so let's not be "hasty" about making "claims" suggesting that is has no "reason" to be in a popular science "web site."

      Or why NASA is having them take a "cocktail" to "get the job done" which would, if the description is accurate, prevent the job from getting done if not kill them (alcohol + uppers + downers + tranqs? Anyone remember Karen Ann Quinlan?)

      More "sensationalism" in response to a light hearted "article". So let's be serious for a "momen..." er, moment.

      As noted by our fine poster, DynaSor (hey, I like that name) must know, NASA prefers that astronauts refrain from using any drugs especially while performing critical activities such as launch, reentry, and EVA. If they needed medications on a regular basis that would not be acceptable in medically certified pilot, they would not be astronauts since there is certainly no shortage of qualified candidates. That noted, it would be irresponsible for NASA to jeopardize a mission or well being of crew members not to make drugs available on high profile multi-million dollar missions that are part of a multi-billion dollar program.

      Alas, the simple mention of the the word "drug" triggers bizarre and irrational reactions from many, many people who are conditioned by propaganda and misinformation thrown at them from many groups (religions, politicians, pharmaceutical corporations, etc.) each with their own agenda. Ignorance and rationalization run rampant. It's not at all difficult to imagine listening to a patron sitting at a bar pontificate about how drug use is leading society to Hell in a hand-basket while gulping down cups of black coffee that he hopes will sober him up enough (it won't) so that he can drive home without fear of getting pulled over and get charged with a DWI. (For the uninformed, alcohol and caffeine are, indeed, drugs.)

      However, I was prompted to reply when reading this in TFA:

      Modafinil: You may know it as Provigil, Alertec, Vigicer or Modalert, but astronauts know it as the upper they take when sleep isn't an option.

      Modafinil is not an "upper" in the generally recognized sense. Wikipedia says this about Modafinil:

      ...like other stimulants, [it] increases the release of monoamines... . However, modafinil also elevates hypothalamic histamine levels, leading some researchers to consider Modafinil a "wakefulness promoting agent" rather than a classic amphetamine-like stimulant. ... Despite modafinil's histaminergic action, it still partially shares the actions of amphetamine-class stimulants due to its effects on norepinephrine and dopamine.

      One can be administered Modafinil and fall asleep without undue problems. Suffice it to say that it is misleading to simply lump Modafinil with stimulants such as amphetamines and Ritalin that are routinely put to recreational use.

      Therefore, I would say the major shortcoming of TFA is that it plays on the fears and misconceptions of readers to garner undeserved attention to a subject that could otherwise be more interesting and informative.

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    3. Re:Lies, Damn Lies and "Science" Articles by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Astronauts overwhelmingly have military backgrounds. The US Military has been using drugs well beyond the specifications allowed for "the rest of us" since forever. I guess what we need is a video game titled WWII Pilots: BENZEDRINE VS. METHEDRINE to really bring the point home to the pixels-and-keyboards crowd. The drug cocktail should surprise no one.

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    4. Re:Lies, Damn Lies and "Science" Articles by TempeTerra · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Besides, exactly what available drugs can enhance your ability to operate heavy machinery?

      No need to worry about that, once they're in orbit it's all weightless (although still massive).

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  15. Hmm by gaderael · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whatever they use, it sure as hell gets them High!

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  16. Re:Hmm... by Obyron · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Kind of like how we tell our kids that all drugs are always unconditionally bad, unless they're handed out by mommy and daddy? This story is an interesting nexus of two things people lie to their kids about. If NASA were so full of American grit, they wouldn't have a problem getting Congress to get funding for (a return trip to the moon|an expedition to Mars|a space elevator).

    There is almost always more to the truth than what we tell our kids, because of our own moral hangups and personal inadequacies. This is why, once they become teenagers and get their first trickled-down distorted taste of what the real world is actually going to be like, they rebel and hate you. It's the least they owe to the people who have lied to them their entire lives.

    Drugs are like cars, or power tools, or guns. They're incredibly useful tools, but if you don't respect them they'll kill you.

    And you should never mix them with cars, or power tools, or guns.

    Unless you're an astronaut.

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  17. Re:Twilight ZONE episode "Nightmare_at_20,000_Feet by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More like:

    "Spock.....there's.....a man....on.....the wing!

    If you want to do Shatner right, you've got to include both the unnecessary pauses and the emphasis on the wrong words.

    That was a great old Twilight Zone episode, though.

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  18. He did it shortly after landing... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 3, Informative

    , but he and NASA kept it quiet to prevent a repeat of the Apollo 8 controversy, where NASA was sued by an atheist group over the reading of Genesis from lunar orbit on Xmas eve, 1968.

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  19. Re:Psilocybin Mushrooms by istartedi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, you weren't shrooming. That's the actual movie.

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