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How To See Through an Invisibility Cloak
AMESN writes "Ways to bend light around objects and render them invisible are becoming a major field of scientific study and gaining ground. While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak."
The kind I want to go out with. WooHoo; particle launcher!
Great minds think alike; fools seldom differ.
turn it on?
No invisibility cloak can hide the fact that it's still a solid object. That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
Just throw a stone at it.
> While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak."
How about flour and water? This reminds me of a joke...
In that scenario aren't you supplying the particle launcher yourself?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
If you can, it's not perfect.
The real problem isn't detecting it. It's knowing that you need to be trying to detect it in the first place, and approximately when and in what area.
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
TFA mentions using charged particles and multiple wavelengths of EM to detect a clocked object. TFA suggests that they were measuring the actual effect on the path of the radiation its self although it should be pointed out that this is quite possibly unnecessary as high energy charged particle entering a solid material undergo an extremely high de-acceleration phase which causes charged particles to emit EM radiation. It's called Bremsstrahlung radiation and could quite possibly be detected.
Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
A perfect invisibility cloak is also a perfect blindness cloak. Unless you make i.e. missiles or bullets (dodge that, Neo!) with it, things with a predefined target, could be somewhat useless for most interesting uses. The imperfect are the useful ones.
I am not sure why people are being so slow to accept this.
Because nothing in world has to be 100% perfect. It just has to work good enough. And maybe later there will be new discoveries that will improve it. That's how technology and science has always worked.
Sure, there will always be ways to get around the invisibility cloak, just like people have ways to get around DRM. But it doesn't make it completely useless or non-working technology.
An "invisibility cloak" these days doesn't just necessarily apply to the visible light spectrum. The cloak could be a thermal or radar "invisibility" cloak, leaving an object perfectly visible to the naked eye, but invisible on other scans. Penetrating thermal invisibility cloaks might end up more important, because camouflage can take care of visible light from overhead, it's the thermal that's the giveaway.
Admit it. You post strawman arguments as AC so you get modded Insightful for refuting them, rather than Troll
I don't know about you, but I don't usually walk around in city with a flamethrower on.
Thanks, buddy. I suddenly feel much better about myself.
You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker's corpse while invisible.
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"Kill 'em all and let Root sort 'em out"
> In any case, a well placed pebble should also work as it would bounce off in
> a very obvious way.
Better yet, a well-placed bullet. Just spray bullets in all directions at all times.
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Stealth technology, like that used in the B-2 bomber, F-117 nighthawk, and similar aircraft, was never about bending light around the plane. Because RADAR is an active detection technology - that is, it projects radio waves of a particular frequency and waits for a reflection - it was always about reducing the angles at which the radar would reflect.
Plain old metal, no matter how you coat it, is like a pristine mirror for radio waves (the black color was simply because they only ever intended the planes to fly at night, so the original camoflage pattern was useless). A rounded surface, like that on most planes, will reflect RADAR signals coming from nearly any direction and at least part of the signal will be sent back to the RADAR. That's how RADAR is designed to work. To get around this, you need to minimize round surfaces so that very little, if any signal at all is returned to the RADAR. On-coming RADAR gets bounced up and down, and only a small portion of the radar signal from below gets sent back. They end up looking like large birds - a far cry from massive bombers.
Light is harder, because we distinguish between multiple frequencies of light, so many materials difuse light, and we don't rely on a source projected directly from our own bodies to see. So for this we need to get light to bend around an object to cloak it.
Security is mostly a superstition... Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. - Helen Keller
Everyone knows firing short, repeated bursts of tachyons between a 3 dimensional grid made up of Federation star ships is the most effective way to detect invisible, cloaked objects.
Fact: Everything I say is fiction.
This has always been something that's bothered me about Star Trek. It's well-established that "cloaked" objects, including people, still exist as solid matter and therefore displace whatever space they're occupying. I would think a foolproof means of tracking cloaked objects would simply be to concentrate on whatever it is they're displacing, and look for the telltale starship/person-shaped contour of gaps of nothingness where displacement is occurring. Take the interior decks of a Federation starship for example - authorized moving displacements signifying crew (tagged by their commbadges) if they simply ever thought to track the density and movement of the air they're pumping into each and every deck. Space is much the same way - it's not a perfect vacuum, and you can't tell me that Federation sensors aren't powerful enough to pick up damn near everything in their immediate surroundings.
This also bothered me in Stargate: Atlantis the multiple times Atlantis was cloaked to hide it from orbiting Wraith vessels. They know what Atlantis looks like, can't they just scan the ocean's surface and look for the telltale snowflake shape of water displaced by the city?
Point is: a cloaked object in a perfect vacuum (absence of everything) would be impossible to track using displacement, but a perfect vacuum exists only in hypothesis. Cloaked objects are always going to have to displace something, so rather than trying to pick up the cloaked object directly, why not concentrate on what you can see and look for gaps which shouldn't be there?
"There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge." - Bertrand Russell.
You could just get a magical eye like Mad-Eye Moody....
We're getting a bit too excited here. If you read TFA you'll realize how limited this thing is. Many of these designs can only work at one frequency, usually microwave, in one direction, over a very small area, in 2D, and with considerable scattering and attenuation.
That's a heck of a long way from a usable cloaking device. The problems of scattering and attenuation are going to be particularly intractable.
It's unlikely that every one of the many shortcomings can each be improved by the needed factor of 100 or so.
Use a scrying spell, obviously.
Well, the easiest way is to have Pyros that Spycheck, or just bump into the Spy by accident.
Wait, you don't mean in Team Fortress 2?
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When it comes to use electrons to see cloaked items, there is science fiction and computer game presidence. In Alien vs Predator, the switching to Electric vision, the Alien can easily see a cloaked Predator.
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