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How To See Through an Invisibility Cloak

AMESN writes "Ways to bend light around objects and render them invisible are becoming a major field of scientific study and gaining ground. While no actual invisibility cloak exists yet, researchers are also theorizing on how to beat the perfect cloak."

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  1. Re:The Possibilities by Mikkeles · · Score: 5, Funny

    The kind I want to go out with. WooHoo; particle launcher!

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  2. How to see through an invisibility cloak? by JKDguy82 · · Score: 5, Funny

    turn it on?

  3. rain by wizardforce · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No invisibility cloak can hide the fact that it's still a solid object. That or utilize various frequencies of EM as it would be extremely difficult to defeat radar + infared + visible + UV all at the same time.

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    1. Re:rain by Penguinisto · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. Even the vaunted "stealth" technologies of the 1980's and '90s were engineered only towards a certain set of frequencies.

      This 'invisibility cloak' could be defeated as easily as using a video camera with "night shot" built in (basically, an infrared emitter on the camera body sends out IR, and the lens picks that up, making it a bit more active than simply taking in whatever it sees). The cloak blocks the IR, so it'll either shine with the reflected waves or will show up as a shadow.

      Other ways to defeat it? Talcum powder or other particulates (like rain ferinstance).

      'course, I doubt that they could make such a "cloak" anyway, at least insofar as it would still show movement. So unless their 'spy' is really good at standing still, he's still liable to be noticed.

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    2. Re:rain by thelamecamel · · Score: 4, Funny

      How would it show movement? AFAIK the cloak should be able to move around and this movement shouldn't be visible to you.

      Or do you mean they won't be able to make a flexible cloaking ninja suit that keeps cloaking the ninja as they walk, despite the suit bending? The solution to that, of course, is to roll around inside a giant hamster ball/zorb cloaking device! Watch out... i'll sneak up on you and ROLL YOU TO DEATH.

  4. The easy solution, from the article by JonC88 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just throw a stone at it.

    1. Re:The easy solution, from the article by sopssa · · Score: 4, Funny

      But what about when teleporting becomes common use technology? The invisibility cloak would have a teleportation field on top of it. The rock would be just teleported back to the person, and it could have a nifty effect in the invisibility drawing to smooth the effect (ie., instead of just teleporting, the stone would travel at a slightly increased, but still not noticeable speed for a moment)

    2. Re:The easy solution, from the article by Idiomatick · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I imagine throwing a stone at something you don't know is there to find it would be quite the feat.

  5. Re:The Possibilities by unitron · · Score: 3, Funny

    In that scenario aren't you supplying the particle launcher yourself?

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  6. You can't beat the perfect cloak... by unitron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you can, it's not perfect.

    The real problem isn't detecting it. It's knowing that you need to be trying to detect it in the first place, and approximately when and in what area.

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  7. TFA by wizardforce · · Score: 3, Informative

    TFA mentions using charged particles and multiple wavelengths of EM to detect a clocked object. TFA suggests that they were measuring the actual effect on the path of the radiation its self although it should be pointed out that this is quite possibly unnecessary as high energy charged particle entering a solid material undergo an extremely high de-acceleration phase which causes charged particles to emit EM radiation. It's called Bremsstrahlung radiation and could quite possibly be detected.

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  8. Why worry? by gmuslera · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A perfect invisibility cloak is also a perfect blindness cloak. Unless you make i.e. missiles or bullets (dodge that, Neo!) with it, things with a predefined target, could be somewhat useless for most interesting uses. The imperfect are the useful ones.

  9. Re:It's been proved impossible using negative ior by sopssa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am not sure why people are being so slow to accept this.

    Because nothing in world has to be 100% perfect. It just has to work good enough. And maybe later there will be new discoveries that will improve it. That's how technology and science has always worked.

    Sure, there will always be ways to get around the invisibility cloak, just like people have ways to get around DRM. But it doesn't make it completely useless or non-working technology.

  10. Invisibility by NoobixCube · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An "invisibility cloak" these days doesn't just necessarily apply to the visible light spectrum. The cloak could be a thermal or radar "invisibility" cloak, leaving an object perfectly visible to the naked eye, but invisible on other scans. Penetrating thermal invisibility cloaks might end up more important, because camouflage can take care of visible light from overhead, it's the thermal that's the giveaway.

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  11. Re:Bahh... the Federation and Dominion figured it by copponex · · Score: 3, Funny

    Thanks, buddy. I suddenly feel much better about myself.

  12. It's rather easy... by Antiocheian · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can drink a blessed potion of see invisible or eat an invisible stalker's corpse while invisible.

  13. Re:How about a $5 solution? by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Funny

    > In any case, a well placed pebble should also work as it would bounce off in
    > a very obvious way.

    Better yet, a well-placed bullet. Just spray bullets in all directions at all times.

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  14. The solution by RudeIota · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyone knows firing short, repeated bursts of tachyons between a 3 dimensional grid made up of Federation star ships is the most effective way to detect invisible, cloaked objects.

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  15. Silly question by eyrieowl · · Score: 3, Informative

    Use a scrying spell, obviously.