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Company Trains the Autistic To Test Software

Aspiritech, a Chicago based non-profit company, has launched a program to train high-functioning autistic people as testers for software development companies. The company says autistics have a talent for spotting imperfections, and thrive on predictable, monotonous work. Aspiritech is not the first company to explore the idea of treating this handicap as a resource. Specialisterne, a Danish company founded in 2004, also trains autistics. They hire their workforce out as hourly consultants to do data entry, assembly line jobs and work that many would find tedious and repetitive.

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  1. If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work by shadowofwind · · Score: 5, Funny

    They own the future.

    1. Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work by palmerj3 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I work at Microsoft testing software I wear paper hats. Would you like a bug with thaaaat. Would you like a bug with thaaaat.

    2. Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work by Dahamma · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's like saying "people who work in IT reside on the intelligence spectrum". Sure, there is a wide range of intellectual abilities, but there is a very clear difference from "not good at math" and "crippling mental retardation".

      Autism is defined as a DISORDER, not a spectrum. Take the convenient wiki definition of "a disorder of neural development that is characterized by impaired social interaction and communication, and by restricted and repetitive behavior."

      Neither of your examples remotely resembles autism. Both are textbook examples of masters of social interaction and communication, which is of course the most important trait for someone of their business and marketing ability. I really don't think you understand what Autism is, and it doesn't really help to trivialize it like you are.

    3. Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work by ajlisows · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't really know that I believe that. I mean no offense to those techies who do have actual psychological problems that they battle each and every day with what I say here. These problems do exist and can make life harder.

      In my experience, younger techies seem to have this idea that they are really quirky or have some mental problem. It's almost a techie way of proving how cool you are. Heck, I'll even admit acted a little foolish in my early IT days to the point where I believed that I was all quirky and crazy.

      As I got older I realized that I just have some slightly different preference. I don't sleep as much as most people I know, I like to stay up later and don't like to get up early, and I like to learn new things (not a very common trait in America these days, sadly).

      A few Years ago I worked with two developers who were clearly OCD and had been diagnosed as such. They were the truly quirky ones...the guys walking around their cars every morning to check five times if their windows were up and doors were locked, washing their hands until the skin was raw...doing other truly bizarre things all the time. Seeing people who had actual psychological issues that they had to deal with daily made me think of some of my co workers who had declared themselves the "Craziest" or "Pretty OCD" or "Waaaay ADD" and I realized they rarely exhibited any symptoms and when they did so, it was when it seemed convienient to them...such as "It is really hard for me to get to work on time because of my OCD and ADD".

      Perhaps the desire to be different or have people think you are stranger than you really are is a type of disease in itself but it seems more of a Prima Donna/Pay attention to me thing in many Techies.

    4. Re:If they thrive on predicatable, monotonous work by koreaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry, but the future involves foraging for food and ammo in a post-apocalyptic world. Peak oil happened in 2007, my friend -- be prepared for the consequences.

  2. I see it coming... by JazzyMusicMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know many will say this is reprehensible, but I honestly think this is something respectable for individuals suffering from autism to do. Honestly, besides grocery store jobs, I have never seen other types of companies hiring these individuals. Of course there are others, but I haven't seen any.

    1. Re:I see it coming... by HBoar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I completely agree, and don't see why it would be reprehensible. It's simply matching people to work that suits them. Just like how, due to my personality and skill set, engineering is a more suitable job for me than say pole dancing or drain laying, their personality/skill sets make them more suited to certain jobs over others.

    2. Re:I see it coming... by Cryacin · · Score: 4, Funny

      engineering is a more suitable job for me than say pole dancing

      Agghhh!!! Image of engineer pole dancing... Thanks mate, you've just ruined my lunch.

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    3. Re:I see it coming... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of the worst things you can do to people is pidgeon hole them into a job based on a prevelent sterotype. For example, Temple Grandin has made a fourtune "thinking like a cow". I find it impossible to describe her work as predictable or monotonous.

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    4. Re:I see it coming... by HBoar · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Only if the individual doesn't actually fit the stereotype. Surely they aren't stating "You're autistic, therefore you should have this job"; rather, they'd be saying "Many people with autism excel at this kind of job, perhaps we should look among them for a suitable employee". Stereotypes don't describe everyone, but they do have their uses.

  3. High Functioning Autism by kabloom · · Score: 4, Informative

    High Functioning Autism isn't really a condition that impairs people from doing more complex work. It's really similar to Aspergers Syndrome, and people with these two conditions are the kinds of people who would can get good educations and be great programmers.

    (I hear Silicon Valley has a higher prevalence of Aspies, likely because the kinds of jobs found there are a good fit for Aspies and tend to attract them to the region.)

    1. Re:High Functioning Autism by Seumas · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Ever since that report came out a few years ago, it has been "trendy" to walk around proclaiming "I'm a geek and have some weird OCD traits, so I totally have aspergers!" I'm sure it is sometimes legitimate and meaningful, but for the most part I suspect it is the geek version of a guy going around telling people how edgy and brooding and complex he is. And when geeks aren't going around self-diagnosing themselves as that, I'm sure doctors are all too often eager to do it for them for the same odd reasons they go around telling everyone (or used to, at least) that they have ADD and ADHD simply because they can't sit in a chair and not twitch a muscle for fifteen hours straight.

  4. Data Sourcing by IntentionalStance · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Yes ago we were doing a data warehousing project. This involved getting other departments to build extract feeds from their system so that we could pull all the data together. Some one had to chase down progress from all these third parties. It was no fun at at all. Spending hours hassling people who were tee'd off with you 'wasting' their time.

    Dave had mild Aspergers. We got him to do the hassling as he couldn't sense the irritation of the people he was calling.

    1. Re:Data Sourcing by Urza9814 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um, what? I hope you're trying and failing to be funny....

      Is it stereotypical to think that someone who has the flu will likely be tired? Is it stereotypical to think that someone with lung cancer will cough? It's a disorder. It has certain symptoms. Saying that _A SPECIFIC PERSON_ with that disorder has certain symptoms of that disorder is not in any way similar to racial stereotypes. What you are saying is that asking someone who is coughing heavily and blowing their nose frequently if they are sick is no different than assuming that all Mexicans can't drive. There's a huge difference. You might as well bitch about people saying that someone with a Y chromosome is a boy. I mean that's not _always_ true either, so that must be a horrible insensitive stereotype too, huh?

  5. consultants? nice way to get out of paying health by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    consultants? nice way to get out of paying for there health care and makeing them pay all the taxes on there own. How about helping and makeing them w2 workers?

  6. Re:Dupe by kabloom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There have been corresponding declines in the diagnosis of mental retardation.

  7. Re:A Brave New World by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, hang on. Epsilons were bred to be epsilons, which was meant to be, and is, morally reprehensible.

    People with autism exist already. Why shouldn't they have better jobs than sacking groceries? And why shouldn't those jobs be in line with their special abilities? The Politically Correct teach us to be "differently abled". If that's really true, then how could jobs in line with those special abilities be bad?

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  8. Re:A Brave New World by roc97007 · · Score: 4

    > The Politically Correct teach us to be "differently abled"

    Eesh, that should say The Politically Correct teach us to say "differently abled"

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  9. Re:Dupe by Seumas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interestingly on a similar trajectory as selfish idiots who insist on squirting out some kids on the verge of menopause (when other things, like downs syndrome goes from a 1:1200 risk to a 1:30 or worse risk).

    Anyway, it's great for people to be self-sufficient as long as they are capable of fending for themselves and not at risk of being exploited in ways the "normal" worker is not.

  10. Suggested reading: The Speed of Dark by B5_geek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On the topic of Autism, I suggest everybody read "The Speed of Dark" by Elizabeth Moon. It puts the condition into a very approachable context that allows the reader to live through the eyes of an Autistic. It also has a great science/research back story that us geeks like.

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  11. Re:"predictable, monotonous work" by Nursie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Depends on the work.

    Testing credit-card software a few years ago the test design was all done for us in the form of standard test packs that were aimed at requirement validation. The poor tester we got to do the work had about 4 days straight of:

    Put card in machine. Press this button. Take card out of machine. Put it back in. Press this button to program card for next test. Take card out of machine. Goto beginning.

  12. Worked with one would love to have one as sidekick by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 5, Informative
    He was someone working halftime to "integrate into society", three years ago.

    The project was a huge database migration, so we would give the kid excell sheets with thousands of records to compare data consistency, validating scripts and data transformations, while management smiled "that'll keep the kid busy for a few months".

    Now, he loved wikipedia, and we'd only see him read franically on wikipedia... at the end of the day, he'd walk up to the IT-manager, each time again:
    "I'm sorry sir, I did my best today but I could only manage to go through 70% of the list. I found some errors which I marked. Next time, I'll try harder, I don't want to dissapoint you.", while the same look of disbelief was on his face over and over again.
    All the consultants that passed through the project with their programming knowledge, could not match the comparing accuracy of this kid with his massive speed, while he just seemed to be reading wikipedia, apoligizing each evening when he went on his way home in all his quirkyness being very thankful to get the "opportunity to work with pcs".

    It's maybe relevant to mention the project was an agressively low priced fixed project, going over schedule so the client being hired for the project kept on dumping starters and benchers to finish the project with the problems you could imagine. It's why I was hired the period of the project to support the other consultants who were stuck in the mess they've been creating trying to get the project done.

    If I would have the opportunity again to work with and rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy, I'll put all my trust in their hands.

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  13. Re:Dupe by tautog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Troll? Really? The world for mod points. Are there a lot of late life conception slashdotters out there?

    Not only are late life conception children statistically more likely to have mental "issues" of some nature, I suspect there's a correlation between late life conception and other issues such as bi-polarism and schizophrenia. Evolution favors early and successful reproduction and hasn't had time to deal with reproduction capabilities of long-lifespan organisms.

    Mod me down if you want, but controversial does not equal -1 Troll.

  14. People... Austism does not equal Retarded! by Cythrawl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Jesus, I would expect something better from Slashdot

    A lot of you are suggesting that high function Autism is mental retardation. It ISN'T!.

    I am very disgusted with the fact that people on here are totally blinkered and think its retardation. My 5 yr old son, just last week was tested for three hours and its been found that he has slight Autism. He is NOT retarded in any way shape or form. He is an exceptionally intelligent little boy. He just has trouble focusing on simple to learn tasks that are not within his interest. Case and point, at age 2 he could tell you what every single car was in the parking lot by looking at the manufacture's logo. Every one. even the odd ones that you don't see a lot of like Ferrari and Lamborghini (well you don't see many here in the white mountains of New Hampshire).
    At age 3 his focus went from that to NASCAR, and he could tell you every driver, sponsor, number, what car they drove. Now he is into trains, he can watch an episode of Thomas the Tank engine and recite the whole episode word for word in order after watching it ONCE. He could read at age 3, he could write his name at age 4. He can count to 30+ and knew all his ABC's at 2 and a 1/2.

    However he has problems if you break his routine, when he talks to you he will turn every conversation around to focus on what he is interested in. He has social skill problems when he deals with his peers who are of the same age. Adults not really a problem, and thats due to most adults being of a higher level than most kids his age. I personally think he has aspergers as he is very social and will will approach people and talk to them. We have has some simple tasks like one half of potty training that he still hasn't mastered at age 5, and we now know how to handle that, because all the ways we were trying were disrupting his routine.

    The pediatrician came up with a very good example of how his life will be with it. If for example he decided to work at a museum as the resident Ornithologist because that is what he was interested in, he would excel at that job. He would have a perfect memory for that task and would know EVERYTHING about it. He would be a walking encyclopedia on the subject. Everything else would be secondary.

    If he took up programming he would excel at it if he was interested in it. Seriously HOW IS THAT RETARDATION? Low functioning Autism is totally different end of the spectrum. Its just that all Autistic people have their brains wired differently, they are NOT retarded.

    I suggest you read this before posting any more retarded posts ok?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_speculated_to_have_been_autistic

    Remember the article says High-functioning autism, please don't jump on the short bus as many of you have on here.

  15. Re:Dupe by Jazz-Masta · · Score: 5, Funny

    There have been corresponding declines in the diagnosis of mental retardation.

    If anything there has been a huge increase. They just call it different things - autism, down syndrome, middle management, liberal arts...

  16. Re:Dupe by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... forum posting...

  17. Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek by Pink_Ranger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    rely on autistics for tasks needing massive concentration and accuracy, I'll put all my trust in their hands.

    The more I hear this sentiment echoed, the more I think they're the ones who came out right, and we're the ones who are broken.

  18. Re:Worked with one would love to have one as sidek by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well, at the very least, it's pretty clear that they didn't come out wrong, but with a very useful skill set. I have similar sentiments about ADHD: if you're in a group of cavemen going out hunting, you want someone in your group who will notice all the little things that folks who don't have ADHD ignore because that's not what they're focusing on. So if I have a task that involves looking around for anything unusual or interesting, I want someone with ADHD along, because he or she will find things I'll miss.

    In fact, any "disorder" that is as common as high functioning autism or ADHD often indicates that it's not a disorder at all, but more a personality type that the rest of us have decided was annoying to deal with. For instance, autistic people are the most likely to announce that the emperor is walking around naked, which is extremely inconvenient for anyone who is selling clothing that everyone claims they can see but no one can.

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