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How Do I Keep My Privacy While Using Google?

hubert.lepicki writes "I use Google all the time. I keep two GMail tabs open when I'm online (one is private, another is a corporate account), I use Google search, and recently I switched to the Chromium browser. Google's services are fast, easy to use and usually reliable. At the same time, I know Google is tracking everything I do; I can see it in search results or their ads on web pages, which tend to match my interests. After the recent post by Mozilla's community director suggesting Bing has a better privacy policy (a response to questionable comments from Google CEO Eric Schmidt), I started to... 'google' ways of keeping my private data safe while browsing and using Google services. The results weren't very helpful, so I ask you, Slashdotters: how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services?"

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  1. If you asked me... by ls671 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you asked me I would say resistance is futile unless you are ready to commit illegal actions.

    You could always use anonymous services like scroogle fro searching but if I was a intelligence gathering organization, I would run such "anonymous services" myself so there is a risk that you might be followed even more by using such services.

    Hacking into 10 machines and forwarding your connections through all of them might be a solution that will get you into trouble but that can be an efficient way to stay anonymous. But then again, intelligence gathering organizations might set up honey pots that you will end up using and you will bring even more attention to yourself this way.

    So anyway:
    > how do I stay anonymous to Google while using their services

    is a really hard to answer question: There might be solutions for anonymous services like searching but for gmail and all other services that require you to log in, I would say forget it.

    Intelligence gathering organizations have come to fully realize the potential of the Internet to track people, in contrast to the situation in the early 90s. Maybe Google CEO knows all about this and that he was just saying; you will be tracked anyway so you may as well be tracked by us ! He kind of screwed up on this because he is now stuck, unable to further explain his point of view, he would have to admit that Google, Bing and many other track you for business and marketing reasons but that they also "share" information with security oriented intelligence gathering organizations.

    So in the end, I would choose who I want to be tracked by for marketing purposes and forget about not being tracked for other purposes unless you want to risk getting into trouble. You may be safer just acting as a normal day to day user thus making the amount of traffic play into your advantage in order to stay anonymous.

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  2. You don't by Anrego · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares

    It's not that black and white.. but chances are unless you have some very disturbing fetish.. chances are "the stuff you don't want your boss to know" is fairly similar to 10 million other people.. to the point where you are just a tiny blip in a stats bucket. Your just search #234521 for "sex with staplers".

    They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper .. they are using it to increment a counter that you might be interested in office supply ads.

    If you are really paranoid though.. use adblock.. route everything through tor.. disable cookies.. and be sure to encrypt your hard-drive with a 20 gazillion bit cypher.

    1. Re:You don't by Scrameustache · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper ..

      They are keeping it, and sharing it with secretive agencies. You may think you have nothing to hide, but you don't know which way the political wind will blow in the future. Maybe you'll be a dissident to those agencies later on...

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    2. Re:You don't by bonch · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously.. despite all the controversy it has stirred up.. if you don't have anything to hide.. who cares

      Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.

    3. Re:You don't by selven · · Score: 5, Insightful

      only people with something to hide would care about privacy

      An entirely correct position. The place where the argument breaks down is that there's nothing wrong with having something to hide. For example, I would very much prefer it if my Slashdot password remains a secret, and there's nothing wrong with that.

    4. Re:You don't by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Welcome to the new Slashdot, where everything Google does is great, and only people with something to hide would care about privacy.

      For people who don't 'get it', compare the situation to getting frisked by the police.
      The principle is exactly the same, but the practical difference is that Google's invasion of privacy
      causes you no inconvienence... which somehow makes it okay. Out of sight, out of mind.

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    5. Re:You don't by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They arn't publishing your search history in the newspaper ..

      They are keeping it, and sharing it with secretive agencies. You may think you have nothing to hide, but you don't know which way the political wind will blow in the future. Maybe you'll be a dissident to those agencies later on...

      Anyone who has studied history and actually learned from it would come to the same conclusion. I'm amazed that there is anything resembling controversy over this.

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  3. Truth is, there is no privacy anywhere. by miffo.swe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thanks to 9/11 there arent anywhere on the world you can expect any privacy. Not online, not offline, not your medical records, your purchases, your bills or anything else thats in electronic form are private.

    Weather you use Bing, Hotmail, Gmail, Google doesnt matter the least bit since ALL of them logs everything and have to keep it and release it at any governments whim. The differences between them are highly superficial and has zero importance in reality. The terms of service from the different vendors are worth about, not a damn thing. They have to log everything and have to release whatever a court or intelligence agency wants released.

    If you dont want it read and scrutinized, dont put it online. Period.

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  4. Re:Ideas by Z00L00K · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Spread the confusion by always killing your cookies and use different browsers.

    But personally I run my own mail server and use only Google for searching.

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  5. Re:Remember your tin foil hat by rfernand79 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But you didn't! This is not about whether people are interesting or not. This is about privacy, which seems to be devalued in the public's opinion. 1984 was a cautionary tale, not a guidebook.

  6. Re:What's the big deal? by bonch · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As long as Google isn't selling my financial data to unscrupulous persons and having me get billed all kinds of money for things I don't want, or creating a dossier on all the weird shit I've searched for and forwarding it to my boss, what's the big deal?

    My, my. Slashdot sure has changed.

    If you let it slide that a company tracks everything you do, that then becomes the norm, and you no longer have any privacy anywhere. The opportunities for exploitation of this data are too numerous to list. You don't know whether or not Google is selling your data to unscrupulous persons, and with a CEO who says only wrongdoers have something to worry about when it comes to privacy, chances are that advertisers know all about you at this point.

    What *does* freak me out is how my credit card company can ask me to confirm my height and weight when I talk to them on the phone, and when I ask them how the f**k they found out how much I weigh, they tell me that by law they're allowed to download all the information from the Department of Transit and so they know everything that's on my drivers license. THAT's the kind of stuff that I find extremely scary, and that's the kind of thing you can't do anything at all to prevent other than living in a shack in the mountains somewhere.

    Let me get this straight. It's okay for a company to index all your information so that advertisers know everything you do, but it's "scary" when a credit card company does a good thing and uses info on your driver's license as a security confirmation over the phone? Are you for real?

  7. Re:Ideas by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...which would make it the perfect Slashdot post.

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  8. Re:Ideas by ScrewMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know about you guys, but if they decided to shut down my account it would be pretty devastating - I backup a lot of information and important e-mails only on gmail.

    Well, that's your problem right there. No online service should be treated as a backup system, nor should you allow yourself to become totally dependent upon it. Period. Store your stuff on your own equipment, and burn it to a disc now and then if it's that important. I don't trust Google or any other corporation that offers free services to be there tomorrow: remember, anything free is worth exactly what you paid for it. Take steps to preserve your data: that's your responsibility, not Google's.

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  9. Re:Ideas by jimmyharris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Try Optimize Google instead. It's a far more actively maintained fork.