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$300 Sci-Fi YouTube Video Lands $30m Movie Deal

krou writes "A producer from Uruguay who made a short science fiction film and uploaded it to YouTube has landed a film deal with Sam Raimi's Ghost House worth $300 million. The film, which shows spaceships and giant robots attacking Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay, was made by Fede Alvarez for around $30. 'I uploaded (Panic Attack!) on a Thursday and on Monday my inbox was totally full of e-mails from Hollywood studios,' he said. Alvarez is to develop and direct a film based on one of his ideas, but there is no word yet on the writer."

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  1. About time by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

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    1. Re:About time by Smegly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

      Proof that Hollywood has a lot more more to fear from this trend on the internet than than just copyright infringement... the more amateur file makers gain recognition and rewards - the better quality their films will become. Diluting eyeballs and eroding profit margins for Hollywood. Yay!

    2. Re:About time by TheLinuxSRC · · Score: 4, Funny

      No offense, but maybe you should not have cast yourself in the lead role?

    3. Re:About time by oldspewey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why not? He only needed a 30-second video.

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    4. Re:About time by asdf7890 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What? Other than FX, which hollywood is pretty good at, what exactly does this film show?

      That at least one of the barriers to market entry (the cost of producing good FX) is much lower than many people expect. Lower barriers to market entry mean more competition, potentially, which could be good for us lazy consumers either through lowering the cost of our entertainment or, preferably, increasing the variety of it.

      Why might it improve variety? Good FX this cheap means there is one less thing standing between some impoverished writer/directer with good ideas and opportunities for him/her to see those ideas brought to fruition without having to involve the big money people who will panel beat the ideas into a lifeless mush designed not to put off any of the lowest common denominator audience by asking them to think and/or feel something they haven't thought/felt many times before from watching the homogenised output the industry is often lambasted for. The FX don't need to be giant robots - if things keep moving this way (and I don't see why they shouldn't) in the near future anyone with the right ideas+talent+time could create a full CGI production (removing set and sound studio expenses and reducing casting issues) of any type, not just SciFi/fantasy.

      In short, this guy has achieved something impressive on a very low budget. Given his achievement, even while accepting it isn't perfect by any means, don't you wonder what he and/or other people could do in future with more time+budget?

    5. Re:About time by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      So what's the script for the other 21.3 seconds?

    6. Re:About time by silverspell · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indeed, and you should meet her -- perfect figure, great listener, up for anything. She's a real doll.

    7. Re:About time by jebrew · · Score: 3, Funny

      Credits...lots of people to thank and all that

  2. $30 million by zn0k · · Score: 5, Informative

    Both articles mention $30 million, not $300 million.

  3. His original post by aBaldrich · · Score: 3, Informative

    He posted his video in Taringa! and from there he became famous. Original post at taringa.net

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    1. Re:His original post by aBaldrich · · Score: 5, Informative

      I forgot to say, the guy the most well known TV publicity director in Uruguay; this is not just a "youtube video". His official website is http://www.aparato.tv/

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  4. Not a new idea by NoYob · · Score: 5, Funny

    Further proof that Hollywood is running out of good ideas, and must turn to new sources.

    It's not even new - it's "War of the Worlds" and "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow" mixed together.

    The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.

    Golloywierd will throw in some hot chick in short shorts and lots of cleavage and it'll make a few hundred million.

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    1. Re:Not a new idea by NoYob · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The guy did a great job with the special effects, but story wise - meh.

      So... what's your point?

      It has no story. Aliens or robots kill humans is not a story and it's been done to death.

      It's a very pretty video of a special effects demo.

      I'm impressed by the special effects and not impressed by his story telling ability.

      I can't think of any other way to put it.

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    2. Re:Not a new idea by NoYob · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I've seen people tell a story with a still photo.

      Otherwise, point taken.

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  5. Sam Raimi by ExE122 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who knew that the man behind Spiderman, The Grudge, Evil Dead, and Drag Me to Hell is a fan of cheesy low budget special effects.

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  6. Here's the video by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here's the link to the original video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvmIxu-LSA

    (NFSW language. If you work in a lame place. My co-workers laughed their asses off.)

  7. Real costs by ZorbaTHut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As awesome as that video is - and it is pretty damn awesome, let there be no mistake about that - I suspect that it only cost $300 if he's considering the time of himself and his friends to be worth zero. (I'm assuming the group scenes were the result of getting a bunch of buddies together.)

    I'd be interested to know how many hours of his own time were spent on that.

    However, it is pretty awesome and the mere fact that he can do stuff like that with his limited resources is a sign that he may well deserve that money.

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    1. Re:Real costs by Aladrin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It only cost $300. It also had opportunity cost, which is not something that can be calculated reliably. If his other opportunities for that time would all have gained him $0, then his opportunity cost was $0. In this economic climate, that's a distinct possibility.

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  8. To his credit... by KingSkippus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To his credit, the plot of the YouTube video was a lot more interesting than around 80% of the movies that Hollywood does churn out these days.

  9. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by sunking2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    South Africa was already occupied.

  10. Re:Well worth watching by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it's a big studio viral hoax.

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  11. Re:$300 is not the real price by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That price clearly does not include the value of his time or any number of other things

    The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0. It almost certainly has a non-monetary worth, but you don't add that to your budget tally.

    For a direct comparison, when the contractor working on my house bills me for 20 hours at $30, and tells me that he donated 3 hours to fix a mistake he made or because he was being anal retentive about getting something perfect, my bill is $600. Those extra three hours, hypothetically worth $30 each, actually cost $0.

    Just call it a hobby project or something, but don't claim it only cost $300.

    It certainly was a hobby project, yet I don't see why that means it couldn't have been made for $300. My contractor isn't doing it as a hobby, it's his livelihood, yet the same rules apply.

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  12. Re:Well worth watching by aBaldrich · · Score: 3, Informative

    Im sorry to tell you but argentine and uruguayan press think it is real.

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  13. PR/Viral marketing? by djwavelength · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Am I the only one who thinks that the whole situation was setup as a viral marketing/PR stunt? Maybe I'm just naturally distrustful of Hollywood.

    It is easier to sell tickets to another run of the mill Sci-Fi movie if it has a story like this behind it.

    1. Re:PR/Viral marketing? by aBaldrich · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can actually read some of the "flood" of emails in alvarez's original post (5-Nov-2009) www.taringa.net/posts/videos/3854519.2/Ataque-de-Panico!-Robots-Gigantes-en-Montevideo.html

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  14. Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by mpapet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The project is budgeted at 30M.

    This is Alvarez's first project, probably no agent, definitely no actors attached to it, so they will probably give him an 'advance' and then lots of interdependent if-then conditionals. He won't get any on-screen credits. (That sets off a bunch of payouts the producer normally keeps) Then one of two things happen to a first-time writer/creator.

    1. The conditionals are never met. Alvarez keeps his pittance of an advance and makes a little beer money. This is normally how it works for a project off the street.
    2. The producer reinterprets the contract or has some sort of magical contractual difficulty with Alvarez if the project is successful. Alvarez then might see his five figures after a few rounds in court and 6-figure legal bills.

    Check out the legal wrangling on 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' as an example. According to the producer, that was an 'unprofitable' film. Welcome to business deals in Hollywood.

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    1. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by Minwee · · Score: 3, Informative

      not even Hollywood would have been stupid enough to, eg, screw JK Rowling over the first Harry Potter film.

      Just like nobody would ever have been stupid enough to screw Peter Jackson over the Lord of the Rings movies.

      Gotcha.

    2. Re:Alvarez Doesn't Get 30M by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is basically what Ghost House did to the Peng brothers on The Messengers. They were off the show once the cameras stopped rolling, and the company hired a ghost director to finish the film.

      The producer reinterprets the contract or has some sort of magical contractual difficulty with Alvarez if the project is successful.

      That won't happen. If Alvarez has a remotely competent agent he'll push for gross points or none at all, which are a cut of the box office before any expenses. Actors and directors learned their lesson from the recording industry years ago and it's pretty common knowledge that a deal net of expenses is worthless. They'll probably pay this guy half a mil and he'll think he won the lottery.

      The studios aren't hiring these people because they have good ideas, or even necessarily because they're cheap. They're hiring them because they're small fry and will take orders from their producers. I've seen it happen over and over again; over the past decade we've seen a serious decline in the authority of directors in favor of producers and executives. Take a look at the "In Production" section of Variety or HR lately-- literally dozens of projects in the $30-$100 M range are going right now with a director that has credits as nothing more than a "stunt coordinator" or "second unit director" or a resume in commercial/music videos. These people are hired because they won't cause trouble when the producer wants to completely rewrite the story, and can be fired with little fanfare.

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  15. What did Raimi see in this guy? by prakslash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I am sorry but I would take this story with pinch of salt.
    Could be someone is pulling a fast one on this guy?

    There is nothing in the film that shows any originality or creativity in ideas. It seems like a amateur copy of scenes from "War of the Worlds" and "Independence Day".

    So, what did Hollywood Studios see in this guy?

    That he can make a hacky special effects film for $300? Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300. All those crowds running was previously shot and reused dfootage. If he had to perform original shooting of those scenes, the budget would go way over $300. Same goes for the explosions and other special effects. He probably spent a long time on creating those but did not include the dollar value of that time which typically would add thousands of dollars to the film's budget. So, I am not seeing what he brought to the table.
    Those fan-created Star Trek episodes have more going for them than this.

    1. Re:What did Raimi see in this guy? by Maximum+Prophet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even there, anyone can see that if you used the proper accounting methods, the budget was probaly way more than $300.

      That's your answer right there. You can't swing a dead cat* in Hollywood without hitting a dozen writers. Mr. Raimi doesn't need any more writers, but creative accountants are gold.


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  16. The day is coming where we don't need holywood by jabjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Being able to make movies much cheaper is a good thing. Means making a movie is much less financially risky, so people are more likely to back something new and unknown. Consumer grade equipment is getting better all the time, perhaps holywood won't be needed. This plus file sharing must have holywood filling their pants, not sure drawing such attention with such large sums of money was wise for them.....

  17. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by ae1294 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No offense intended to the great nation of Uruguay, but why would giant robotic aliens give a rat's ass about Montevideo of all places?

    They've been intercepting our interwebs for some time now and as such they've been watching porn from 8thstreetlatinas.net. Like most gigantic robotic overlords they require fresh, nimble, "barely legal" workers for their Energon mines in order to continue to function properly and thus continue to watch even more porn as well as do all those other things that overlords do. Pass pointless laws, monitor the pleebs, protect the children, make deals with other alien overlords, etc.

    I know this because I too am a slave of the robotic overlords however, I work in accounting...

  18. What about Shane Carruth? by NoPantsJim · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Primer was one of the best sci-fi movies I've ever seen, on a budget of $7,000. It's about damn time that guy gets the funding he needs to bring his other ideas to fruition.

    1. Re:What about Shane Carruth? by NoPantsJim · · Score: 3, Funny

      You make a persuasive argument. If anyone needs me, I'll be busy dying in a fire.

  19. Re:Well worth watching by hansamurai · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh, I clicked one of those hoping that the media had thought the attack was real, War of the Worlds style.

    Too bad.

  20. Why no support for a low budget phillipino horror by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful

    movie? Shows it is better to post in youtube than to pimp your movie project in slashdot.

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  21. Re:$300 is not the real price by musicalmicah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The value of your time is whatever someone is paying you for it. If nobody is paying you for it, then that time is worth $0. It almost certainly has a non-monetary worth, but you don't add that to your budget tally.

    No, there's this thing called opportunity cost that can be used to value a hobbyist's time. For instance, if I can get $8/hr on Saturdays working at a coffeeshop instead of playing computer games, then it's worth at least $8/hr for me to spend that hour blasting virtual monsters with virtual rockets instead of making tasty espresso for impatient customers.

  22. Re:Putting the "Fiction" back in Science Fiction by nametaken · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear Sir,

    I'm Mr. Finkelstein of Megalith Studios, and we've decided that you're the perfect person to write a script for our new bajillion dollar robot invasion film. This job pays roughly $8/hr.

  23. You Have Wil Wheaton Derangement Syndrome by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This guy did a great job! 300 bucks, uploaded to Youtube, and he gets a Hollywood gig out it!! It's the Cherished Daydream of half the digital video hacks on this board -- maybe the whole 'Net. And you're going to hate on him because you think it's merely "a very pretty video of a special effects demo."

    God bless this sonuvabitch. Let's see you do better.