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After Berlusconi Attack, Italy Considers Web Censorship

An anonymous reader writes "The Italian government has proposed introducing new restrictions on the Internet after a Facebook fan page for the man who allegedly attacked Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi on Sunday drew almost 100,000 users in under 48 hours. However, the planned clampdown on Internet hate speech sparked a heated debate over censorship and freedom of expression, leading Interior Minister Roberto Maroni to execute a partial U-turn."

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  1. Control by JohnHegarty · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Must be very hard for Mr Berlusconi that there is media he doesn't control.

    For anyone not familiar with Italy he already owns all the major tv stations and newspapers.

    1. Re:Control by migla · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On my to-watch-list, there's a recent-ish documentary about Berlusconis Italy, titled "Videocracy". http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1500516/

      http://www.atmo.se/film-and-tv/videocracy/ :

      In a videocracy the key to power is the image.

      In Italy one man only has kept the domination of the image over three entire decades. As a TV-magnate and then as Presidente, Silvio Berlusconi has created a perfect system of TV-entertainment and politics. [...] ...a remarkable story, born out of the scary reality of TV-republic Italy, a country where the step from TV-showgirl to Minister for Gender Equality is only natural.

      Coming soon to a festival (or internet) near you!

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    2. Re:Control by emanem · · Score: 4, Informative

      Il Giornale
      Libero (his ex-wife controls it but de-facto he is)
      Oggi
      Chi

    3. Re:Control by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      He owns Il Giornale, via his brother Paolo. Il Foglio, it is owned by his recently divorcing wife. Mondadori, the biggest italian publisher, with a myriad of magazines, is in the hands of his daughter Marina. About the latter, he has just been sentenced guilty of taking over Mondadori by means of corruption back in 1990 and will have to pay 750 megaeuros. Mediaset is controlled by Piersilvio, his son, and owns 3 private national channels out of 7 plus a bunch of digital tv channels. Other than these, are the three national tv channels of RAI (state television) which is mostly controlled by the government.
      If this is not enough, well... unfortunely he has way much more power than this...

      by the way
      what do ./ers think of the aggression itself? I mean... is it possible to have two broken teeth, broken nose, and a white shirt with no red stain?

    4. Re:Control by emanem · · Score: 4, Informative

      You missed the point sit. In Italy they don't sell many newspapers...btw he does control 35% of the biggest newspaper (Il Corriere) as well..
      Anyway the majority of information is broadcast through TV which he controls (50% as prime minister) and owns (50% his own TV stations).
      You sir, don't know what you're talking about.

  2. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just goes to show, politicians everywhere dont like a medium that allows the little guy to have a voice.

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  3. If this were a nobody that was attacked by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Informative

    The government would treat it just like any other case, even with such a facebook group.

    It never ceases to amaze me how the government uses high-profile cases to grab at power and suppress the people while having their whole-hearted support of such measures. The patriot act comes to mind. (Which, btw, did nothing to stop Nidal Hasan from killing people.)

    These type of things shows you the true stripes of those in power, and who should be voted out ASAP.

    1. Re:If this were a nobody that was attacked by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Patriot Act is intended to focus on groups of people organizing to carry out a planned action. It doesn't do anything for single crazy acting on their own.

      And yet the FBI had plenty of tips about the hijackers before the actual attack.

      What allowed Nidal Hasan to kill people was rampant political correctness.

      Perhaps it was simply the same bloated bureacracy that fail before 9/11, which got warning signs but the signals got lost in the chain of command because they're too busy spying on the emails of millions of others.

      When is an act terrorism and when is it just simple murder?

      Is the shooting at Virginia Tech terrorism? Or is it only terrorism if the perpetrator is Muslim?

      Terrorism is a tactic designed to invoke a specific psychological reaction.

      The way past US leadership uses it is a catch-all phrase to grab power:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW8Bj1upbJQ

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW8Bj1upbJQ

    2. Re:If this were a nobody that was attacked by FuckingNickName · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or is it only terrorism if the perpetrator is Muslim?

      It is terrorism precisely when the word "terrorism" brings out the right sentiment in those listening to you.

      The British were terrorising Catholics in Northern Ireland. The IRA were terrorising the English in London. The ANC was terrorising the white government in apartheid South Africa. The apartheid government was terrorising the black majority. Jews terrorised Arab villages and British hotels. Arabs terrorise Jewish women and children in marketplaces.

  4. Please Do It, Italy! by netsharc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they do go ahead with it, the serious backlash will surely bring down the Berlusconi regime. Or is this just wishful thinking? His media power has really brainwashed the majority of citizens there..

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  5. Wrong response by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The last thing you do is try and stop people from hearing about it. You make light of it, show it as not a big deal, and move on.

    "Yeah, some guy hit me with a souvenir... Oh well, shit happens! The security guards are stepping it up a notch or two, but it's not like I was shot or anything. Thanks god, you know? Wouldn't want to leave my wife having to look for an inferior lover! Vote for me, you guys... I'm easy going."

    And the world moves on.

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  6. Whenever I see a knee-jerk reaction.... by ibsteve2u · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Whenever I see a knee-jerk reaction by a government, the first thought that pops into my head is "Oh, my. Are they nuclear?"

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  7. It's All About CONTROL! by mrpacmanjel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Governments *hate* the idea of people having too much freedom.

    Why?
    It means you'll start asking too many questions and governments don't like that!

    It also means you become difficult to control.

    How?
    By keeping you fearful - global warming, recession, terrorism, nuclear arms and now the freedom of the Internet (terrorists and paedophiles use it)
    These subjects in themselves are genuine concerns but governments have a knack of focusing on them and using them to conrol the general population. Usually by using extreme measures via law and policy legislation.

    Web censorship is no different. Governments need us to be passive and compliant. Fortunately free speech is *impossible* to control it's part of who you are. You can censor or prohibit the *mechanisms* that express free speech but never "control" it.

    Suppose Italy do censor the Internet and other countries follow. Do you really think that will be the end of it?

    I don't think so.

    If they start blocking web sites (probably at ISP level) then people will turn to encryption and deliver content that way. If encrypting the web becomes illegal then some other mechanism will manifest itself (e.g. bypassing the ISP entirely).

    I hate to say this, but some form of government control is coming to the Internet whether you like it or not.

    So, be prepared.