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Australian AvP Ban Reversed

Earlier this month, we discussed news that Sega's new Aliens vs. Predator video game had been refused classification in Australia, effectively banning it. After a scathing response from the developer saying they wouldn't censor the game, and later news that the classification scheme may be updated to include an R18+ rating, it now seems that the Classification Board has seen fit to give the game a green light after all. Sega's Darren Macbeth told Kotaku, "We are particularly proud that the game will be released in its original entirety, with no content altered or removed whatsoever. This is a big win for Australian gamers. We applaud the Classification Review Board on making a decision that clearly considers the context of the game, and is in line with the modern expectations of reasonable Australians."

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  1. Re:A big win for gamers? by quadrox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The original AvP was the first 3D game I played (I think). I absolutely loved the marine campaign, because it was scary as hell. I've never been that scared in a game before or after (or pretty much in any situation).

    It might not be long, graphics may be poor, there may not be a story - but I will say that this game is still bounds better than most modern FPS, because what little is there just works so incredibly well. And the lack of story was quite ok really, because similar as in half life, the entire point of it is simply to get out of there, which increases immersion quite a lot (for me anyway).

  2. Reversed? by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Australian AvP Ban Reversed on Friday December 18, @10:51AM

    Now they've banned Predator vs Alien.

  3. Re:So what about Left4Dead 2? by Hadlock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it's fast becoming a nanny state

    I'm from the US, and I was under the assumption that this was the case already, with Australia following closely behind the UK with their banning of various games and censoring of the internet. It's that sort of nanny state mentality that has me looking at places like New Zealand and Canada for studying abroad, rather than AUS or the UK. Your government's totalitarian censorship isn't just hurting your citizens; it's actively creating mental roadblocks in future businessmen/women who might consider doing business with your country in the future.

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  4. Re:So what about Left4Dead 2? by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Books contain some pretty graphic descriptions of scenes without showing them, and they're just as emotive.

    And you wouldn't mind reading a book knowing that the graphic descriptions have been censored?

    My point is that the game doesn't change; It's still a mad zombie-fest survival piece. It's not like they turned the zombies into marionettes and had the words "YOU ARE NOT SHOOTING REAL PEOPLE." emblazoned across the screen. Nor did they make it into Barbie Fun House of Horse Riding Escapades.

    It's the same game, with the same mechanics, the same plot. Gore shouldn't even be an issue.

    It's not the same game. It's the censored version of the game.

    If I remove all references to violence from a book, it's not the same book. If I censor all violence on a movie, it's not the same movie. If I censor any part of a work, it's not the same work.

    You can argue you like the censored version as much as the complete game, but that doesn't make them equal.

    It has nothing to do with whether you consider the censored part to be important or not. If I censor away all references to death in a zombie book, it can still be an interesting book, but it won't be the same book.

  5. Re:We must protect the kids by letting them play t by X0563511 · · Score: 4, Informative

    From my understanding, the lack of an F18+ rating is entirely the fault of a single legislator.

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  6. Re:We must protect the kids by letting them play t by mjwx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From my understanding, the lack of an F18+ rating is entirely the fault of a single legislator.

    Absolutely, one attorney general has stopped the F18 Hornet from being made available in Australia.

    Jokes aside (The RAAF now consist of 70 odd F18 strike fighters) yes, one state attorney general prevents the "Restricted" (R18+) rating that exists for movies and literature from being legislated for video games. The system evolved from each state wanting control over the ratings system, so it was made that each vote had to be unanimous. Right now the South Australian Attorney General Michael Atkinson (the "legislator" in question) is being dragged through the mud buy almost everyone (media, internet, his own party) over allegations of corruption. It seems unlikely Mr Atkinson will survive but will keep his* views to the bitter end.

    * I'm certain that I don't have to explain politics to /. but when a politician becomes as powerful as Mr Atkinson then he has done so with the support of certain smaller groups, occasionally these groups call in favours. Atkinson is known to have a lot of support from extremist Christian groups in SA, whether it is or isn't Mr Atkinson's view he has to obey his masters.

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  7. Government vs private review boards by RevWaldo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the great documentary on the United States' MPAA film review board, This Film is Not Yet Rated , one of the talking heads makes the argument that - in a fully functional democracy at least - government review boards may actually be preferable to private industry review boards (which are usually created to preempt the creation of government review boards in the first place.)
    The argument is that although government review boards have the law on their side, they are at least accountable, either to the will of the people (legislative) or the country's constitution (judicial). You could in theory force the review board to make or alter their decisions or decision-making process through legislation or judicial review. Government review boards can be required to have a certain level of openess on the review process, who does the reviews, and so on.
    Private review boards, on the other hand, are accountable to no one, aside from the industry that sponsors them. They can have byzantine rules, secretive and subjective review processes, anonymous review boards, and no one can say boo about it. You can go unrated of course, but your product can effectively be stonewalled by the industry or the third parties that support it. In the case of films, unrated or NC-17 films have trouble getting into theaters, getting newspaper or TV ads, and may not get the full backing of the studio that produced it.
    Regarding video games, can you even legitimately release a game in the US for any of the the big consoles without an ESRB rating?