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North Magnetic Pole Moving East Due To Core Flux

National Geographic is reporting that the migration of Earth's magnetic pole has accelerated again and is now racing in Russia's direction at a blazing 40 miles per year. This movement began in earnest around 1904 at about 9 miles per year and has been accelerating since. "Geologists think Earth has a magnetic field because the core is made up of a solid iron center surrounded by rapidly spinning liquid rock. This creates a 'dynamo' that drives our magnetic field. Scientists had long suspected that, since the molten core is constantly moving, changes in its magnetism might be affecting the surface location of magnetic north. Although the new research seems to back up this idea, Chulliat is not ready to say whether magnetic north will eventually cross into Russia. 'It's too difficult to forecast,' Chulliat said. Also, nobody knows when another change in the core might pop up elsewhere, sending magnetic north wandering in a new direction."

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  1. North Pole by SirLurksAlot · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia North Pole comes to YOU!

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    1. Re:North Pole by Divinemonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      How are Soviet Russia jokes even funny anymore?

      As a meme it's over used and lacking in hilarity. In reference to this particular story though, it could not have been better played.

  2. Global Warming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yet another impact of "global warming". Heating the globe is melting the no-longer-solid iron center. Yikes.

    1. Re:Global Warming by Entrope · · Score: 5, Interesting

      An operating system may be too large and complicated for any one person to understand. A code of laws might also be that complicated.

      A single bill, however, is most closely analogous to a patch -- or at most a patch series -- and no open source OS would accept a patch that no one claims to understand. Are you willing to run code on your computer by maintainers who accept that kind of patch? If not, why are you willing to live your entire life according to laws that are equally poorly understood and maintained?

      Even beyond that, computer programs tend to be inherently less ambiguous and more deterministic than laws. These traits allow useful decomposition of programs into a hierarchy that allows a person to focus on single parts of the whole. Because laws lack those traits (and especially in the US where courts look at history and precedent), it is much harder to decompose laws into elements that one can analyze separately. This is compounded by legislatures being loath to revise even obviously outdated or buggy laws, which makes it hard to correct bugs in the law. (The Internet has many examples of dumb or silly laws; an obviously buggy one is the US federal law prohibiting compensation for bone marrow donations by classifying bone marrow as an organ.) On the whole, it is much more important for legislators to understand the whole of the law than it is for software developers to understand the whole of a program.

      Voters are well-known to be rationally ignorant of their choices at the ballot box. Your argument is essentially that legislators should be rationally ignorant regarding the laws they vote on. Is that really what you want to encourage in law-makers?

    2. Re:Global Warming by Firehed · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I can't be expected to understand the laws as a normal human, then I can't reasonably be expected to follow them either.

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  3. What, no mention of geomagnetic reversal? by WebManWalking · · Score: 5, Informative
    1. Re:What, no mention of geomagnetic reversal? by synaptik · · Score: 5, Informative

      > It's moving East, not South.

      Hmmm.... *BRAIN STRAIN*.... ummm... wouldn't any direction from the north pole be south?

      Since magnetic North does not coincide with true North, then magnetic North can move East by simply circling true North in a counter-clockwise direction, as viewed from above the (true) North Pole.

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  4. How convenient by SlothDead · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is actually pretty cool that this happens at the time our technology is so advanced that we can have electronic compasses that simply use GPS to figure out where they are so they can point to the geographic north pole, instead of towards the magnetic one. Imagine how inconvenient it would have been for people if this had happened a view hundred years earlier; they would have to do some extra calculations to navigate their ships.

    Yay for technology!

    1. Re:How convenient by RobVB · · Score: 4, Informative

      GPS can determine heading in two ways.

      The first way only works if the GPS receiver is moving, in which case it can calculate a course based on your current and previous positions. This course is then approximately your heading - although it can include a pretty large error due to drift (when in a ship or an airplane).

      The second way only works if you have two (or more) GPS receivers a reasonable distance away from each other (say, fore and aft or port and starboard on a large enough ship, or in the tips of the wings of an airplane). Then the GPS device has two positions, and the line through them is your heading (if they're placed fore and aft) or your heading + or - a constant angle (for example, + or - 90 degrees if they're places port and starboard).

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    2. Re:How convenient by RobVB · · Score: 4, Informative

      If it works when you're standing still (and you can confuse it with a magnet), it's probably a fluxgate compass.

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    3. Re:How convenient by RobVB · · Score: 4, Informative

      I highly doubt a handheld GPS would have an inbuilt gyrocompass. Those things need constant power to keep the gyroscope from slowing down, and if the power fails you have to recalibrate it, for which you need to know your exact heading. Which is why, on ships, they usually have their own backup power source (usually a battery) in case the main and backup power generators are down.

      That, and they're pretty big and heavy. They even get their own room (I also linked to this page in another post about gyrocompasses I made a few minutes ago):

      Almost every naval vessel and merchant ship today carries at least one master gyrocompass, installed in its own gyro room.

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  5. The poles are flipping? by MickDownUnder · · Score: 4, Informative

    This article covers it...

    http://scienceblogs.com/highlyallochthonous/2009/02/is_the_earths_magnetic_field_a.php

    I've heard it from several sources though, they have geological proof that the earths magnetic field has been periodically flipping and reversing its polarity, and that it does this at periodic intervals, and that we are in fact due for a flip any millenia now.

    1. Re:The poles are flipping? by MickDownUnder · · Score: 5, Funny

      I said "millenia" not "millisecond"

    2. Re:The poles are flipping? by RobVB · · Score: 4, Informative
      This is why the International Maritime Organisation has agreed on the following rules (taken from SOLAS chapter V (Safety Of Life At Sea):

      2.5 All ships of 500 gross tonnage and upwards shall, [...] have:
      .1 a gyro compass, or other means, to determine and display their heading by shipborne non-magnetic means [...]
      .2 a gyro compass heading repeater, or other means, to supply heading information visually at the emergency steering position if provided;
      .3 a gyro compass bearing repeater, or other means, to take bearings [...]

      Gyrocompasses are useful for many other reasons: they point to true north instead of magnetic north, which means you don't have to correct for magnetic declination (the difference between true north and magnetic north) and magnetic deviation (the difference between compass north and magnetic north, an error caused by local magnetic influences such as the steel in a ship's construction). They can also give your heading digitally, which means you can connect repeaters to it, and autopilots etc. can use its output.

      From

      this page:

      Almost every naval vessel and merchant ship today carries at least one master gyrocompass, installed in its own gyro room. A transmission system links the master gyrocompass to "repeaters." These are used on the ship for such purposes as steering, position finding, and course recording.

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    3. Re:The poles are flipping? by Martin+Blank · · Score: 4, Informative

      A lot of pilots use the earth's magnetic field for navigation. When flying around under visual flight rules in an analog cockpit (which make up the majority of general aviation aircraft), the magnetic compass backs up the gyro-based heading indicator. Every 15-20 minutes, the heading indicator is realigned with the compass heading when in straight and level, unaccelerated flight due to the effects of precession, making that magnetic field very important. Even in a glass cockpit, the FAA requires a backup magnetic compass in case of computer or electrical failure.

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  6. Re:This explains by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    This explains why paper notes I've left on my fridge with magnets keep sliding down. So in this conspiracy, the magnetic reversal is the blame of...

    I kinda expect that. But when they start sliding up is the time to panic.
         

  7. Moving to Russia from Canada by WoodenTable · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a Canadian, I feel there's only one rational response to the Russians taking our magnetic north pole (which is sort of owned by the whole of humanity and indeed the planet itself, but has been held in our trust for some time).

    All out nuclear war.

    And the only downside is nuclear winter! Winter! We can handle a few more months of that each year, easy. It's win-win, really!

    1. Re:Moving to Russia from Canada by selven · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I think summer falls on a Thursday this year.

  8. An Inconvenient Proof by ShakaUVM · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's 2.3 centimeters per second. Forget global warming, it's the Earth axis that's moving and screwing everything. On Christmas day, snow was fucking MELTING over here and we're way up north. Melting snow used to be for the beginning of march.

    Don't be ridiculous. We have humans now on the planet, AND the magnetic core is shifting. Coincidence? I think not.

    If we plot C02 emissions alongside the rate of change of the magnetic north pole, even a 5th grade could see they're correlated.

    Humans are to blame for magnetic drift.

    QED.

  9. North, South and Reversal by DynaSoar · · Score: 5, Informative

    TFA is only about north. South is moving also, but not nearly as much. Two magnetic poles are not a rigid dipole. Maybe in the core, but at the surface they're fairly independent. Given this, it's quite possible that past geomagnetic events were not 'reversals' with north and south sliding past each other and popping out the other side. Rather north and south might wander far enough out of opposite that the Earth's external magnetic field is far off center, and/or very strong over some parts but weak over others. Conceivably they could 'collapse' by becoming too close. The magnetic field would appear to go away although the generator (and whatever drives it) is still operating. I think this makes more sense than the direct reversal in that it assumes the generator to stop operating, which I find unlikely, and start again of its own accord, which smacks of a planetary "and then a miracle occurs". The data does support this hypothesis as being at lest possible. In 2005 magnetic north of 500 miles from true north, while magnetic south was 1750 miles from true south. Either the dipole is off center, which contradicts the generator idea, or the dipole is bent.

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    1. Re:North, South and Reversal by dissy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Do magnetic fields get bent?

      Yes actually they do.

      The face of the magnetic 'sphere' that is facing the sun (and thus the solar wind and all the magnetically charged particles that come with) push against the magnetic field, so that part of the planet surface sees it much closer inward.

      On the other side of the planet, it gets stretched further from the earths surface, and tapers off towards the end due to the charged particles flowing around it (Think an airplane wing, but in all three dimensions instead of two)

      In fac, it is the flow of these charged particles, starting at the side of our magnetic field facing the sun, that are pushed faster, and end up following the magnetic field and in to the earths pole. This causes the auroras in the sky at the poles.

      If the magnetic field ends up weakening, the field lines could even split and earth would have multiple poles wandering around the surface until two other fields met up and merged later on.
      If that was to happen, the multiple poles would redirect charged particles from space down on more heavily populated areas of the planet and possibly have some health affects on us fragile humans.
      The up side is you will have many auroras at night over many spots on earth.

  10. might not have GPS by r00t · · Score: 4, Informative

    Without a magnetic field to stop the solar wind, satellites tend to die.

    Granted, GPS is military and not LEO, so it might be built a bit better than most.

  11. Re:Moving east? by PieSquared · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hooray, what I must assume is deliberate ignorance.

    Look, educate yourself on the difference between the MAGNETIC north pole (the one defined by the magnetic field, probably caused by movement in the molten core of the earth, who's only serious influence on the earth is the direction compasses (including the ones inside a bird's head) point) and the GEOGRAPHIC north pole (the one defined by the rotation of the earth as a whole, which defines the coldest parts of the world).

    The MAGNETIC north pole drifts constantly and flips occasionally (though not what one might call "regularly"). This is not accompanied by any cataclysmic extinction event, and takes place over dozens or even hundreds of years. It did not happen during the Mayan or Egyptian cultures, and unless you think they were sending probes to the mid-Atlantic ridge they were unlikely to even be aware of it much what able to predict it better then modern science (which says the field will probably begin flipping sometime in the next 10 to 200,000 years). The magnetic north pole has no influence over how cold it is in any given place on earth.

    The GEOGRAPHIC north pole doesn't drift appreciably, or flip - ever. If it did flip, the most obvious sign would be that the sun would rise in what we currently think of as the west, and set in what is now the east. Also, all the stuff that got flung into space as the earth stopped spinning suddenly and then started up again in the opposite direction. Or if it happened more gradually, summers and winters would gradually get more extreme until the entire world spent half of every year (as opposed to half of every day) in the sun, and the other half in the shade, at which time the trend would reverse until it came to a rest exactly as it is now but with the sun rising in what was the west and setting in what was the east. Both methods would take similarly ludicrous amounts of energy, and probably kill most large animals and plants.

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  12. Software - a perfect analogy! by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First of all, allow me to commend you for the perfect analogy — laws are programs, and law-making is programming... Now, to answer your questions...

    Would you arbitrary limit the Linux kernel to 30,000 lines of code? Who gets to decide what kind of complexity is reasonable?

    Linux kernel is reviewed by thousands of people back and forth all the time. There are automatic tools verifying syntactic and even (rudimentary) semantic correctness. Thousands of "tinderboxes" test any changes for hours every days and report any deviations. The history of changes (diffs) is publicly available at all times, studied and discussed by even more people.

    The two thousands pages of the bill in question has never been read in full by a single person — and when such a feat was undertaken, by the time the hero finished, the bill was already amended to bribe another Senator, etc. No automatic verification tools exist, of course — even a spell-checker would break. The entire country will be the tinderbox — production testing the below alpha-quality software. Oh, and the earlier prototypes (State-wide programs) have been failures...

    And you object to somebody rejecting that software because it is too complex? What happened to coding guidelines, with each function and non-trivial block being carefully commented?

    You? Rush Limbaugh? Based on what metric?

    The metric is very simple — if I can't finish reading (and understanding!) it without somebody "committing" a significant change somewhere, it is too long... The "Senate version" was moved to vote after an all-nigher in the Speaker's office, for crying out loud. All those fancy promises (by the most technically advanced Administration, like, ever, dude) of legislation being posted online for days prior to vote have turned into lies. Unreadable, spaghetti-like code, no testing, and not even code review. Who could possibly object?

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  13. Re:What about the South Pole? by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 4, Informative

    So, does the South pole shift as well?

    Yes.

    To where?

    Antarctica isn't divided up into countries, so it's moving from Antarctica to Antarctica*. That's like saying it's gone from the middle of nowhere (with penguins) to also the middle of nowhere (with penguins): there's just no way of making that an attention grabbing story, despite the penguins.

    *To be technical, magnetic South is near the edge of the sea ice rather than on the continent, which means it's moving from a really cold bit of ocean to another, slightly less cold bit of ocean. While that does entail more penguins, it's still not that interesting.

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  14. Re:Moving east? by zindorsky · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've also read postulations that glaciers were not caused by 'ice ages' per se, so much as they were the remains of the north pole ice cap after a shift.

    Umm ... Are you aware that the reason it's cold at the poles has nothing to do with the earth's magnetic field, but rather the weaker intensity of sunlight at high latitudes? Were you sick on that day in third grade?

    It's a particularly interesting topic if you look at the archaeological records of our past; specifically, the polar relation/geographic locations of Egyptian, Mayan, and other ancient peoples' religious/whatever sites. They seem to predict a pole shift, or at least make subtle suggestion to one occurring in the past.

    The last geomagnetic reversal took place 780,000 years ago. So, bzzt, no.

    Please turn in your geek card on the way out.

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  15. Re:Not good for Russia by heidaro · · Score: 4, Informative

    As a resident of the Arctic I can say that all electrical and communication equipment works fine, even during a solar wind. I think it was in 2003 or so when a pretty big solar wind hit the Earth and all the doomsayers were going on about it but nothing happened, nothing at all. We did get a lovely aurora borealis display though!

  16. Very strong evidence by mister_playboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The largest body of evidence for this is found in the striping of the ocean's floor. In the areas where rock material moves up from the mantle and solidifies, the molten rock aligns with the current magnetic field before it cools, and this alignment cannot be changed once the rock becomes solid. The entire ocean floor is banded with a north/south/north/south alignment pattern, implying the reversal is very consistent from a cosmological timescale perspective.

    This reversal of the field occurs approximately every 800000 years, with a period of 1000-2000 years around the switch where the magnetic field is disorganized and significantly weaker than normal. This period has very big implications for lifeforms on Earth... obviously not enough to totally end life, but enough to kill lots of animals from various causes (extra solar radiation, messed up internal compass, disrupted migration patterns,etc.).

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