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OpenShot Video Editor Reaches Version 1.0
An anonymous reader writes "After only one year of development Jonathan Thomas has released version 1.0 of his impressive NLE for Linux. Based on the MLT Framework, OpenShot Video Editor has taken less time to reach this stage of development than any other Linux NLE. Dan Dennedy of Kino fame has also lent a helping hand ensuring that OpenShot has the stability and proven back-end that is needed in such a project."
I make porn videos. There's something about using "Openshot" to edit them that just adds some credibility to my artistic vision.
Is this one usable, unlike the other ones for linux?
That's one thing I never liked about linux, the tools are all either extremely dumbed down and featureless or incredibly hard to start using. I like power, but I like being able to jump right in.
Additionally, is this 1.0 as good as the competition's 1.0?
..... but WTF is a non linear editor?
Finally an open source project that reaches 1.0 !
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What do you mean they cut the power? How can they cut the power, man? They're animals!
TLA overload. Since the summary is so short, couldn't the submitter or editor expand them?
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This is pretty neat, they also provide a .deb and ppa for installing. The demo video looks cool, I've never heard of this software before but it's good to see something new come out of the woodwork and do something halfway decent.
Hopefully the Ubuntu devs come around soon and agree to include Openshot in the next release instead of PiTiVi. Last time I checked, PiTiVi couldn't do transitions or any other fancy effects - all it did was cut and arrange the clips. I don't use it, but it doesn't look like it has changed in the entire year that Openshot has been being developed!
Funny may not give karma, but +5 Informative never made anyone snort coffee out their nose.
1999 called, they want their webdesign back.
Seriously though, why spend all that time on a (fairly?) big project like an NLE and not spend a few hours at least to create a nicer website? Or ask someone to do it for him, if he lacks the skills.
Simple website is ok, but not one with a design from 1999. I find it very difficult to take it seriously..
It looks like the author of this program spent(wasted?) a lot of time trying to use Gstreamer as the back-end for his project but basically ran into a brick wall.
If I remember correctly the developers of another Linux NLE called diva finally gave up on Gstreamer after years of struggling with it and subsequently abandoned their project altogether. Didn't the Diva developers also clash with the Gstreamer developers?
So it appears that the above developers put a lot of effort in writing Linux NLE's using Gstreamer but still ultimately failed at their attempts. Is there something inherently flawed with Gstreamer/Gnonlin? If Video software using Gnonlin as its back-end(Pitivi) can only be written by its author(Edward Hervey), Gstreamer must be too cryptic for mere mortal programmers. I wonder if anything formidable will ever come of Pitivi.
I haven't installed it yet, but this looks better than anything out there so far. Hopefully it's stable and truly supports any format ffmpeg supports. Cinelerra has been stuck in the mud for too long (especially on file formats and titles), avidemux is too limited, as is kdenlive. If it's good, maybe I'll get off my ass and add a gentoo ebuild. I don't edit video very often, but I've always wished the tools were just a little bit better than what we've had.
NLE = NonLinear Editor, MLT = Media Lovin' Toolkit, and TLA = Three Letter Acronym
Interesting, yes.. but I'm more interested in where that music for all of the demo videos came from. The credits list titles, composers, and the fact that they are Creative Commons but no links or URLs. So are they pieces composed just for the project? Or is there some place out there with lots of "atmospheric" instrumentals under Creative Commons that are suitable for videos?
First of all, I know this is a big achievement, so congratulations to the team of programmers for getting this far!
But after watching the video and seeing the screenshots, I think this project really really needs a designer that is familiar with what professional video editors want. It looks SO amateur that I wouldn't go near it.
All the transitions look really cheesy, and the titling tool looks like Corel Draw circa 1995.
This is all just my smart-ass opinion after spending 10 minutes on the website and without even downloading the thing (I use XP on this machine, purely for Sony Vegas Pro) but the fact is, that's how most people that might be interested in this product are going to judge this thing. I could be wrong, maybe their target audience is anwad1...
Mike
The editor I plan to start writing tomorrow is already at v2.0, and of course Kdenlive ( http://www.kdenlive.org/ ) is probably just as useful to most people even if its not 100% feature equivalent.
Who do I have to suck of get my software slashvertised? Its a commercial product so I'm willing to pay also.
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Does this thing support negative matchback, 3-perf or RED camera workflows? Or is it just another prosumer tinkertoy, like every other Linux media package?
Trust me when I say there is a LOT of interest in OSS alternatives (or any alternatives at all) to Avid, Final Cut Pro or Pro Tools, and a lot of money in support contracts if you were able to build the solution. But alas, Linux devs are constantly reinventing iMovie.
Don't blame me, I voted for Baltar.
the real story behind openshot is the author's goal to learn linux and why fedora didn't adopt it.
go dig up that
the export function is somewhat working now.
always didnt work to select different bitrate etc...
maybe i can edit my 1080p MTS files soon....
-- slightly off topic I have not done video editing, but I did do a full week of video recording and converting to DVD. I did everything in linux, and beat my friend who was using Windows hands down. Any windows video conversions took hours, but ffmpeg did conversions almost as fast as disk would allow. I discovered Handbrake after I did all this, so maybe Handbrake on Windows would be similar.
But does it run on Lin... Oh. never mind.
'The tyrant will always find pretext for his tyranny.' - Aesop's Fables
example command line
ffmpeg -i input -acodec libfaac -ab 128kb -ac 2 -ar 48000 -vcodec libx264 -level 21 -b 640kb -coder 1 -f psp -flags +loop -trellis 2 -partitions +parti4x4+parti8x8+partp4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -g 250 -s 480x272 output.mp4
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> Is this one usable, unlike the other ones for linux?
Ah, if I answer "Yes", you want me to imply the (unspecified) "other ones" aren't usable? And if I answer "No", what does that mean? Your question appears to be obvious flamebait, if you didn't mean it to be, you should work harder in the future to enable real discourse. A good start would be to actually list the names of the programs in question and for each one explain why you didn't think they were usable.
> That's one thing I never liked about linux, the tools are all either extremely dumbed down and
> featureless or incredibly hard to start using. I like power, but I like being able to jump right in.
Is this your standard "I am fishing for mod points" commentary on Linux? You didn't find even one tool which was both powerful and easy enough to use that you could just "jump in"? People here are posting that their grandmothers practically don't notice when they switch them over to Firefox from IE. I guess that means that you don't believe it's "a tool", or you don't think it is "powerful"?
A pity, since I would have classified "video editing" as really one niche where Linux, up until recently, was quite deficient compared to (what I've heard about) proprietary solutions on Windows and OS X. It happened by chance that LiVES reached 1.0 exactly when I needed a video editor to edit a short home video clip (less than 10 minutes long) and it was exactly what I needed (in terms of functionality).
> Additionally, is this 1.0 as good as the competition's 1.0?
No, ours goes to 1.1!
This question is even more idiotic. First of all, what program or programs are "the competition's"? Secondly, version numbers are arbitrary in that each vendor/OSS project defines totally different criteria as to what reaching the v. 1.0 goal means. One project might define it as "we have a rock-stable program which is useful for editing 98% of all home video" and another project might define it as "we feel our program is useful for simple editing tasks for production cinema".
To send my video files to other people, I use Spider Send Website. You can use it to send large files to any one. The website is www.spidersend.com. Their service is fast and secure.
This thread made me read up on video compression, and I can now articulate more precisely why my favorite video codec is Motion-JPEG - It uses 100% I-frames, which makes editing easy, and which makes fast motion scenes look better than codecs which use P and B frames. The only downside is that Motion JPEG doesn't offer the best compression, but it's still reasonably sized.
Who do I have to suck of get my software slashvertised? Its a commercial product so I'm willing to pay also.
Start here.
I used two versions prior to 1.0; and OpenShot showed great promise. Used it on a real project even (30 second client demo), had to run through Avidemux then to get a .avi that Windows users could watch on their default XP windows media program (all ok on linux without that though).
I'll be installing 1.0 to check it out.
If everyone were like you (and most people) we'd still be sitting around the tree picking bugs out of rotten wood for sticks to eat and wiping our ass by licking it.
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Too true, and this goes for many commercial closed-source programs. I daresay that open source - or at least open standards - is actually one of the bigger reasons for the interest, certainly in the media companies.
Unfortunately, however...
But virtually none in actual development, unless you're an in-house coder.
Which they would if they were more familiar with the subject at hand.
I presume this was a generalization, but even as a generalization.. see the above. You can't just expect every Tom, Dick and Harriette coder to be familiar with established workflows in the higher-end segment of the market. What they -are- familiar with...
At the same time, those coders who are in fact familiar with the established workflows are rare - and are more than likely already hired by some of the bigger editing and VFX shops as in-house coders. Where -they- re-invent tools all the time, specific to their team and even specific to a particular project, after which code often gets abandoned (there's not as much re-use as people like to think - beyond the wealth of knowledge in the coder's head) and that's that.
There isn't really anything stopping a bunch of production companies to pool together resources - by that I do mean cold hard cash *and* hand-holding to educate the coders about what users need and why the existing tools fall short - and creating a kick-ass editing suite. Except for the lack of will, and the lack of project greenlighting from the higher-ups; after all, why would they give the competitor such a benefit? The industry is pretty cut-throat and having an advantage of your competitors is a good thing.. thus largely keeping in-house tools in-house.
That said... babysteps. Get an iMovie done and with any luck you've at least got a framework to build upon, to learn mistakes from, and to do better with in the future.
I have tried them all and concur with the GPP.
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
... apart from RED's, supports RED camera workflows?
In any case, in the words of the director of "New Town killers" (Richard Jobson): RED workflow is a real PITA (so bad that he prefers to use Cannon DSLRs in video mode to shoot now).
IANAL but write like a drunk one.
what you identify is exactly what Cineform ( Neo Scene, ProspectHD, etc ) fixes:
the compact streaming-capture codec isn't the best editing-codec.
Therefore, use an editing-codec when editing.
( Since the Cineform codec isn't available in Linuxrealm, I don't know what'd be the best editing-codec here -shrug-
sometimes running one single, or very few, MS-Windows machines makes sense, for these editing stations )