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A Peek Into Netflix Queues

margaret writes "The New York Times has an interactive Web app where you can map the popularity of various Netflix titles by neighborhood, in a dozen different cities. Invasion of privacy or harmless voyeuristic fun? Either way, it's pretty interesting."

113 comments

  1. porn? by iamagloworm · · Score: 2, Insightful

    porn, now that's where it'd get interesting...

    1. Re:porn? by dangitman · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'm surprised by Debbie Does Dallas being relatively unpopular in Dallas, but quite popular in Houston. Go figure.

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    2. Re:porn? by lena_10326 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Re:porn? (Score:1, Flamebait)

      wtf

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  2. Interesting relationship by Spykk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone else notice that Knowing's rank seems inversely proportional to Rachel Getting Married's rank?

    1. Re:Interesting relationship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are two types of people in the world...

    2. Re:Interesting relationship by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      straight and lesbian?

  3. This just proves... by KaoticEvil · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ...that people have no lives and don't have enough business of their own. I mean seriously. I can think of so many better things to be doing with my time than looking at what people are renting based on their ZIP code. WHO CARES!?

    Just because we have the ABILITY to get this information doesn't mean we SHOULD get it.

    Get a life people and MOVE ON!

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    1. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I can think of so many better things to be doing with my time than looking at what people are renting based on their ZIP code.

      Does whining on Slashdot really count as something better?

    2. Re:This just proves... by adolf · · Score: 1

      Nor, does it mean that we should not "get it".

      Different strokes, for different folks. Some people like demographics.

    3. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, we should all stop reading slashdot.org and move on to more important things. Like getting out of the basement.

    4. Re:This just proves... by MarkvW · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Marketing people care. You'd better believe they care!

    5. Re:This just proves... by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Say you have kids. Those concentrations can give you a very good idea about where there are other people who have kids, so you can look at those neighborhoods. Especially if you're moving to a new city or something.

    6. Re:This just proves... by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      Whatchu talkin' 'bout, adolf?

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    7. Re:This just proves... by Runaway1956 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Some people like demographics."

      Apparently, some people like masturbation as well. That doesn't mean they shouldn't get a life.

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    8. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's crazy talk!!!

    9. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Apparently, some people like masturbation as well. That doesn't mean they shouldn't get a life.

      But then I'd have to cut back on masturbating.

    10. Re:This just proves... by feepness · · Score: 1

      Say you have kids.

      Or perhaps you like kids...

    11. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the article:

      A Peek Into Netflix Queues

      Examine Netflix rental patterns, neighborhood by neighborhood, in a dozen cities. Some titles with distinct patterns are Mad Men, Obsessed and Last.

      [.. troll ..]

      Trolls read articles and write custom trolls now? Wow.

    12. Re:This just proves... by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      Is there a web site showing the demographics of masturbating?

    13. Re:This just proves... by cashman73 · · Score: 1

      I would probably think twice about moving into any neighborhood where its residents have the movie "Gigli" in the top ten,...

    14. Re:This just proves... by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 2, Funny

      Trolls read articles and write custom trolls now? Wow.

      That's why I don't RTFA. I don't want to risk ending up a troll.

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    15. Re:This just proves... by arminw · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...I don't want to risk ending up a troll....

      The Slashdot moderation system is broken, totally ruined. It seems that anyone who posts anything controversial, to which the majority of Slashdot readers disagree, gets modded troll or flamebait. On the other hand, obscenity and profanity often gets modded insightful. I have gotten to the point where I don't give a hoot if every one of my posts gets modded down, just because I often post opinions to which the majority disagrees.

      By refraining to speak your mind, just because you don't want to be modded down, you're helping prop up a broken system.

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    16. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stop being an idiot just because you're not creative enough to see how this info could be valuable. I'm planning on moving to NYC, for instance, and I'd rather live in an area where I "fit in" best. And this applet shows one possible factor in such a decision: The Bronx for instance has far fewer people with my movie tastes than Manhattan.

    17. Re:This just proves... by westyvw · · Score: 1

      During the Netflix contest to get more accurate predictions of movie rentals, the thought did occur to me that geospatial data might be useful to add the algorithm. More information, such as gender, income, and age, and past favorites may have a spatial component and add to the success of future predictions. This is at least a glimpse of this kind of analysis, so yes, I find it interesting.

    18. Re:This just proves... by CSHARP123 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Apparently, some people like masturbation as well. That doesn't mean they shouldn't get a life
      Apparently, some people like masturbation as well. That doesn't mean they shouldn't get a WIFE
      There you go I fixed it for you. I know this is a geek site. But atleast you need to try getting a wife instead of just masturbating.

    19. Re:This just proves... by zoloto · · Score: 1

      My god I hope not.

    20. Re:This just proves... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Something like 80% of kids that are molested are molested by relatives. The "think of the children!" bullshit is a big, fat boogeyman put out there by idiots. And yes, I do have a kid.

    21. Re:This just proves... by laron · · Score: 1

      Those statistics could come handy in "community standards" related lawsuits.

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    22. Re:This just proves... by feepness · · Score: 1

      It was actually just a joke. I have two kids.

    23. Re:This just proves... by donovansmith · · Score: 1

      Also quite handy if you don't have kids and want to avoid them. Although I already knew my neighborhood, Capitol Hill in Denver (80203, 80218), does not have a whole lot of families with kids. I imagine a lot of near downtown areas are similar. It can also tell you a little about the people in the area. Milk is the number one most rented movie in my area and you can probably guess why (hint: rainbow flags).

    24. Re:This just proves... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Sorry ;) That kind of stuff just annoys me to no end, that people throw reason out the window every time someone mentions kiddie fiddling or terrorism.

    25. Re:This just proves... by Z34107 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is there a web site showing the demographics of masturbating?

      Any solid-color map you have ever seen does. The one color represents 100% of the population. These are called relief maps.

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    26. Re:This just proves... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's the problem. If you want to escape the kids you tend to have to live with the homos. I want to live somewhere that's neither Be Fruitful and Multiply nor Sodom and Gomorrah.

    27. Re:This just proves... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      The Slashdot moderation system is broken, totally ruined. It seems that anyone who posts anything controversial, to which the majority of Slashdot readers disagree, gets modded troll or flamebait.

      It happens sometimes, but it's been my observation that it isn't what you say but how you say it. I've been downmodded for posting something unpopular (e.g., any mention of religion) but not always. I've been modbombed before, but somehow the final moderation is a positive one regardless.

      Metamoderation, otoh IS broken. It used to be that you moderated a moderation as "fair" or "unfair" and if your mods were deemed unfair you didn't get more mod points. Now metamoderation simply adds more moderation after the thread has been cold for a while.

      On the other hand, obscenity and profanity often gets modded insightful.

      Obscenity and profanity can be insightful, depending on its context. It's assumed that this is news for nerds, not news for prudes. This is supposed to be a logical and rational bunch of people who mostly aren't distressed by "bad words" or talk of sex.

      I have gotten to the point where I don't give a hoot if every one of my posts gets modded down

      The only good reason to care of your comment is modded down is that nobody will see it, so posting it was a waste of time.

      By refraining to speak your mind, just because you don't want to be modded down, you're helping prop up a broken system.

      Somebody who refrains from speaking their mond for fear of a downmod is a karma whore.

    28. Re:This just proves... by spun · · Score: 1

      Apparently, some people like masturbation as well. That doesn't mean they shouldn't get a life

      Apparently, some people like masturbation as well. That doesn't mean they shouldn't get a WIFE

      There you go I fixed it for you. I know this is a geek site. But atleast you need to try getting a wife instead of just masturbating.

      Spoken like a true bachelor, or a newlywed.

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    29. Re:This just proves... by KaoticEvil · · Score: 0

      That's fine. The general public IS NOT marketing people.

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    30. Re:This just proves... by arminw · · Score: 1

      ...I've been downmodded for posting something unpopular (e.g., any mention of religion) but not always...

      Religion, especially Christianity is unpopular on Slashdot. But so are other topics, especially in science, where the point of view expressed is outside of the mainstream.

      PS I know someone named Mcgrew who is married to a blind lady. Is that you by chance? He is into computers and could be on Slashdot.

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    31. Re:This just proves... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I've been downmodded for dissing Sony over XCP. Dis somone with mod points' employer and often they'll mod you down.

      I haven't been married for six years, and Evil-X isn't blind; well, she's blind to truth but she's not sightless. She's no laday, either, she's a serial adultress. Must be another McGrew. Are you in Springfield by chance?

  4. Intesting how College area is way off by piltdownman84 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Looking at the Seattle map one interesting thing stands out for me. The rentals in the zip code of Seattle University seems completely different then everywhere else. What is interesting that ' pseudo intellectual' movies that you would think would be more popular, Milk, Benjamin Button, Frost/Nixon, are relatively low in this area of learning, while mindless movies, Role Models, House Bunny, where the most popular.

    1. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by RU1DT · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Or maybe you're presuming too much about people based on their ZIP code.

    2. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by kannibal_klown · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Looking at the Seattle map one interesting thing stands out for me. The rentals in the zip code of Seattle University seems completely different then everywhere else. What is interesting that ' pseudo intellectual' movies that you would think would be more popular, Milk, Benjamin Button, Frost/Nixon, are relatively low in this area of learning, while mindless movies, Role Models, House Bunny, where the most popular.

      I don't find it odd.

      It's just anecdotal, but after a stressful day/week of courses and exams I found myself wanting to unwind and relax with a fun and mindless flick instead of a high quality film.

      Don't get me wrong, I would still enjoy cerebral movies back then but not as frequently as a silly comedy or mindless action flick.

      A mindless entertainment was a good way to unwind, plus you could watch it and laugh together with friends.

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      I guess it's somewhat like my reading habits. I enjoy reading and do it fairly often now, likewise I read a fair amount back in high school.

      However in college I was already reading every day for multiple hours for my various courses, so the last thing I after I put down my textbook was pick up yet another book.

    3. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, if we're already speculating you may also speculate if you are seeing a biased sample of the student population. At least many of the technically minded students I knew would see no need for a Netflix subscription...

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    4. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by HouseOfMisterE · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not sure about Milk or Frost/Nixon, but there was a DVD screener for Benjamin Button available for download months before the retail DVD was released. That may have measurably impacted rentals in a college ZIP code area. Or not, who knows?

    5. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

      "but after a stressful day/week of courses and exams I found myself wanting to unwind and relax with a fun and mindless flick"

      Back in the old skool, we unwound and relaxed with a fun and mindless chick. Oh well - someone already pointed out that it takes different strokes for different folks.

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    6. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by linzeal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More intelligent poor folk are pirates. Who has money for Netflix when you are living off Ramen and Peanut Butter?

    7. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you seen the price of Netflix lately? 8 bucks a month for unlimited downloads.

      It's mostly docs and art films that are available for streaming, though, so maybe they won't be interested in Seattle...

    8. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      More intelligent poor folk aren't so poor that they can't afford netflix. And if you're a pirate of any note, you've got an internet connection; most internet connections are sufficient for streaming (unlike mine) so you can then parlay the cheapest netflix membership into something great, or at least entertaining.

      Nothing makes Ramen taste inoffensive like distraction. TRUST ME

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    9. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Um, yeah, duh! Kids like dumbass kid movies, so around a university filled with kids the most popular movies will be kid movies. Actual adults watch movies that are for actual adults, sure, but college students aren't adults in any realistic sense of the word.

    10. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by maxume · · Score: 1

      Maybe he went to Michigan Tech.

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    11. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by icebraining · · Score: 1

      Maybe they like those movies more, so they go to the movie theater to see those, and the others aren't worth it.

    12. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      By the Miami map, Milk isn't pseudo-intellectual, it's a clear marker of high gay population in the zip code. Interestingly, it seems that even the straights in the gay neighborhoods were renting it.

    13. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by c_forq · · Score: 1

      I had a friend who went there. When asked what they do up there besides school the response was "Usually drink. Or go to Walmart. Or drink and go to Walmart."

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    14. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by zoloto · · Score: 1

      You think Milk was popular / pseudo intellectual? Boy do I have some news for you...

    15. Re:Intesting how College area is way off by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      You only get your official intellectual card when you get to the grad school level. As an undergrad, My friends and I mostly watched mindless comedies.

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  5. cultural information by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You can use it as an indication of how different regions feel about homosexuality by looking at the rental patterns for Milk (no link, sorry, you'll have to click through the movies until you find it). It was a lot more popular on the west side of the bay than the east side, which also matched voting patterns for proposition 8 (the west side was a lot more strongly opposed to it). In Boston it seems like they are a lot more open minded, except in area code 02126. Don't know what happened there.

    Strangely enough, Milk is in the top 3 movies in San Francisco in every area except the Castro. Try explaining that one if you can.

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    1. Re:cultural information by romiz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Strangely enough, Milk is in the top 3 movies in San Francisco in every area except the Castro. Try explaining that one if you can.

      Compared to other areas, the residents bought the disk, so they don't need to rent it as much?

    2. Re:cultural information by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Milk is in the top 3 movies in San Francisco in every area except the Castro. Try explaining that one if you can.

      Maybe most people in Castro already saw it in the theater, or rented it months ago? The DVD came out in March of last year, so it's not exactly new.

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    3. Re:cultural information by Eric+in+SF · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Everyone in the neighborhood saw it in the theatre and so didn't need to rent it from Netflix.

      We saw it at the Castro theatre about halfway through its total run and it was a full upper balcony sellout. It really was an important film to see as together as a community and I was glad to have taken part in what I felt was a community viewing.

    4. Re:cultural information by JackieBrown · · Score: 0, Troll

      Really? Renting Milk shows open mindedness?

      I never saw a movie preview for this movie. I could see the arguement that this demographic is more aware of non-mainstream movies more.

      Also, those demographics may just have more homosexuals. I am straight and watch predominantly straight love movies with my wife. I would imagine someone gay would probably prefer more gay love movies.

    5. Re:cultural information by Macrat · · Score: 1

      They bought the DVD already?

    6. Re:cultural information by StreetStealth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's actually really interesting to consider -- You could think of Netflix popularity as a band pass of the full spectrum of movie popularity. Imagine a few graphs for other channels that signify different levels of investment: theatrical viewing and DVD purchase above rental, cable viewing below it, and torrenting at the bottom. Now imagine these distributions overlaid on top of each other. I wonder what that graph would look like...

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    7. Re:cultural information by zsimic · · Score: 5, Funny

      And then, you can take it to the next level: stats on which zip code examined which other zip code stats... The possibilities are endless: - which zip code is the most "self absorbed", (ie looked at its own stats) - which zip code is the most popular (stats looked up by other zip codes) - which zip code has the most self-confidence problems (looked at other zip codes' stats more than their own..) - which zip code is the most popular homophobic (stats most looked up by other zip codes, while the renting trend of homo movies is high) - and so on

    8. Re:cultural information by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative

      You may be a little bit confused. Milk is a movie about the first openly gay elected official in the US, who was later assassinated (along with the mayor) by another elected official. It's not really a "gay" movie any more than Malcolm X was a "black" movie.

      It might be the mainstream thing as you say. But looking at my own city I do note that the more liberal areas of the city are far more likely to be watching Milk than the more conservative parts.

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    9. Re:cultural information by BradMajors · · Score: 1

      Because they know the true story rather than the Hollywood fictional version?

    10. Re:cultural information by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      You are correct. I had no idea what the movie was about.

      That does lead back to my orignal point.

    11. Re:cultural information by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or, it could be, everyone in Castro STARRED in the damned thing, and they can't bear to watch it again?

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    12. Re:cultural information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zip code 02126 in Boston is Mattapan; predominantly black, with a lot of immigrants from the Caribbean. Perhaps you should try listening to some Jamaican dancehall music, and pay attention to the lyrics.

    13. Re:cultural information by bwalling · · Score: 1

      I suppose you could try to draw that inference, but it may just be that homosexual love stories don't appeal as much to heterosexuals. I don't have much interest in watching two men fall in love. I think this has to do with the fact that when watching a romantic movie, my interest in the love story is often based on my own attraction to the female character. If she's a bitch or an idiot or I don't find her attractive, I'm not that interested. So, if the romance involves two men, it's unlikely that I'll be attracted to either of them, and so I won't be interested.

    14. Re:cultural information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not from the USA, so what's going on in Washington? There seems to be a big difference between those areas in the top left versus bottom right quadrants. It almost as if there is some kind of boundary along the line from the bottom left corner of the map to the top right.

    15. Re:cultural information by gbjbaanb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      yes, but if you can drag yourself away from your narcissism, you'll find your girlfriend not only loves love stories, but love stories about sad relationships between 2 seriously hot men ('cos the movie-makers are always going to make a story about gay relationships involving 2 muscular cowboys rather than 2 fat nerds), and it also has the added attraction of some man-on-man action.

      So you'd expect homosexual love stories can appeal to heterosexuals. Just like you wouldn't mind going to see 2 hot lesbian chicks fall in love (oh, you've already seen that one, yeah me too ;)

      Also a lot of heterosexual and homosexual people just like movies, sometimes you want something intellectually stimulating even if it has a gender-related subplot you still watch it for the main plot. OK, love stories don't fall into this category so much, but Milk (for example) may have a gay subplot but that's not what the story is about. Just like you can watch Malcolm X in an entirely white neighbourhood.

    16. Re:cultural information by JoeMerchant · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "Milk compliment" would be Fireproof, a highly conservative movie which seemed to only go over big in Atlanta and Dallas.

    17. Re:cultural information by JoeMerchant · · Score: 3, Funny

      You meta-moderate on Slashdot, I can tell.

    18. Re:cultural information by rekoil · · Score: 2, Informative

      The "Milk compliment" would be Fireproof, a highly conservative movie which seemed to only go over big in Atlanta and Dallas.

      Note that for Atlanta, "Fireproof" was most popular among the southern exurbs, confirming every rural stereotype held by the typical ITP* Atlantan.

      * ITP = Inside The Perimeter, the local nickname for the I-285 bypass.

    19. Re:cultural information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      02126 is the back bay, where all the rich people live. I used to live there, and once or twice we received mail from the RNC or Bush addressed to neighbors. It looked handwritten...

    20. Re:cultural information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not really a "gay" movie any more than Malcolm X was a "black" movie.

      Ah...so it was...

    21. Re:cultural information by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      That border pretty well tracks the gay friendly neighborhoods in the region. The 22111 anomaly chopped out of Arlington looks to be Ft Myer, so I would guess the people there who would like to watch Milk are probably scared of accidentally telling even though no one asked.

    22. Re:cultural information by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      It is the Potomac river boundary. Capitol hill is just north of the river, and the south-east section of the river is almost all filled with african americans. The capitol region has a higher education rate (about half the people living there graduated from college). As would be expected from the graduation rates, that area has higher income levels as well. Here is a demographic breakdown of the area around capitol hill and here is one for a typical zip code south of the river. I'm going to guess that the biggest distinguishing factor is race, since opinions on homosexuality are already known to be divided on race.

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    23. Re:cultural information by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      In Boston it seems like they are a lot more open minded, except in area code 02126. Don't know what happened there.

      That is the ZIP code for Mattapan, MA. It is 77% African American.

      I have no idea what the personal preferences are of those residents, but I recall that there is little debate that homosexuality garners less acceptance in many visible black communities. Think of the "no homo" thing and the phenomenon of a "down low brotha" ("DLB") and the demographics of Prop 8 voting. My recollection is that the black populace voted much more against gay marriage in 2008 than did other races (except maybe Asians or Vietnamese or something?).

      But that's just an anecdotal attempt to explain your noted variance.

  6. Re:NYC and Oscar nominations by Darkness404 · · Score: 1

    People in NYC are going to be a lot more aware of hype surrounding something because of all the ads in NYC.

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  7. Map Technology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does anyone know how they created that map? I know it's Flash, but how did they make it? Is there a library in Flash which can make these maps? Is this built with an open source libary? Just currious...

    1. Re:Map Technology? by base3 · · Score: 1

      Was wondering the same thing--such a library would be fun to play with.

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  8. Well...not now... by dcigary · · Score: 1

    Well, they *had* an interactive application that did this. Now it's a smouldering hunk.

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  9. You're kidding, right? by mforbes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Invasion of privacy or harmless voyeuristic fun?

    What invasion of privacy? They're not showing what any particular person rented, just what the aggregate in a given area liked. If this is invasion of privacy, then so is any demographic statistic saying, for instance, that New Yorkers like hot dogs from a stand on the street or the baseball stadium over that cooked at home.

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    1. Re:You're kidding, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any information published about your habits erodes your privacy, whether you see it or not.

    2. Re:You're kidding, right? by computerchimp · · Score: 1

      Cool map....

      Not that there was evidence of it given:
      The shocking part would be that Netflix keeps track of an individuals rentals (possibly) and then creates thse maps based on those individuals histories. Again no proof but it concerns some.

      On a similar note
      In Canada the zip equivilant is the postal code.....postal codes often refer to only a handful of houses....so posting rentals based on postal codes + an individual knowning person x uses netflix = invasion of privacy.

      cc

    3. Re:You're kidding, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      There is a theoretical max of 10^5 = 100,000 zip codes. There are roughly 10,000,000 Netflix subscribers, so if there were an even distribution, that would give about 100 subscribers per zip code. I suspect that this varies considerably, though I'm not sure which way things would swing among urban/suburban/rural. Urban has more alternatives but higher prices, suburban has social reclusiveness, but also sufficient disposable income for theaters, rural lacks theaters and conventional rental options, but may not emphasize movies as much culturally. 100 should be enough for a reasonable degree of privacy, especially when high probably means 5-15 out of those 100 (depending on how long a period this collects data for).

  10. Interesting data for So Cal by Mr.+Lwanga · · Score: 1

    You could draw many fun, but useless conclusions from this data. This is probably the kind of info that sales pukes, marketing drones and security theater types drool over.
    Mad Men was only rented by those Hollywood types in Glendale and West LA
    Tyler Perry's chitlin flicks do well in South Central, Inglewood and Long Beach - why?
    Religulous' demographics proves that rich people really are godless.
    White people really liked Australia, but Vicky Cristina Barcelona is better than the US Census for racial profiling.
    Crooked cop movies, Pride and Glory, do well in "concentrated urban areas" - interesting.
    Pinapple Express proves that some things are universal - legalize it

  11. Large differences in some areas... by drZool · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could perhaps be explained by europeans using VPN accounts in these areas to access netflix.

    1. Re:Large differences in some areas... by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      Most of these films are only available through Netflix Mailing. Unless you can VPN a POBox then I doubt that's affecting much.

  12. Paul Blart? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hmm, seems the worse the neighborhood the higher the ranking for Paul Blart Mall Cop.

  13. Gee, be careful by kramulous · · Score: 1

    Look, I think this stuff is kinda interesting, but you need to be very careful with information visualisation of geographical regions. And some of this information is a little misleading.

    Some neighbourhoods are smaller in size (area) than others. If a neighbourhood is larger in area than another, a dominant colour (such as red!) will be highly dominant - not just because the movie is more popular - but because there is more red and the area is larger. This is a psychological thing; eyes are drawn to larger objects (yeah baby!) and we see fewer shades of red to blue (a physics thing).

    Are the number of people in a neighbourhood more than another neighbourhood? How the borders are defined really needs to be stated. Using point sources of density would have been more appropriate (eg http://www.time.com/time/covers/20061030/where_we_live/

    I could be full of shit as I've had a few white wines and we had a lovely 30 degree day out in the sun after a few weeks of cloudy rain.

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  14. Racial profiling by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is an extremely dangerous tool. If you are looking to live in an area, you can use this tool to see the proportion of (say) blacks and hispanics (through the choice of movies), and then decide to move/not move there, thus encouraging the creation of racial ghettos.

    Studies have proved time and again that multi-cultural communities are more stable (socially and economically) than mono-culture communities.

    If this was an interactive map that showed where ethnic minorities lived, there would be an uproar. It's just too subtle for people to notice this way.

    1. Re:Racial profiling by rossdee · · Score: 1

      I am sure there are other ways of determining the racial and socio-economic make up of an area, before buying a home there. Like talking to the neibours of the property you are interested in.

    2. Re:Racial profiling by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      You don't need Netflix for that. One quick drive through the neighborhood will tell you way more about the demographics than any movie rental patterns will.

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    3. Re:Racial profiling by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

      This is an extremely dangerous tool. If you are looking to live in an area, you can use this tool to see the proportion of (say) blacks and hispanics (through the choice of movies), and then decide to move/not move there, thus encouraging the creation of racial ghettos

      Or you could just look at census data and not have to try to infer racial data from movie choice.

  15. Welcome to Murderpan; now go to the morgue by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    "In Boston it seems like they are a lot more open minded, except in area code 02126."

    That is Mattapan; sometimes affectionately referred to as Murderpan. There is a very large criminal element there, and as the name implies, a very high murder rate. That alone cannot explain it though, unless you see significant dips in Dorchester and other high crime areas. I don't really care enough to look, since I don't really think you can make reasonable conclusions even when having local/inside information about a region based on this kind of data. About all you can do is theorize, which is all well and good, as long as you realize that you cannot take it any further than that, or test the veracity of your theory. Since I see no benefit to formulating an untestable theory I don't think it makes much sense to advance one, except for the pure entertainment value, if that happens to be something you find entertaining.

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    1. Re:Welcome to Murderpan; now go to the morgue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes there are similar dips in Dorchester and other similar areas. You are right that this kind of data is somewhat limiting, and subject to strange artifacts. However, as a visualization guy, I still find it an interesting data set, and it still illustrates some interesting features of the area. It is a starting point that gets you to ask questions. For example, on the Milk example, 01731 is another hole that is perhaps even more severe than Mattapan since the fall-off is more abrupt. This would lead one to ask why that might be. A look at a map + some local knowledge and one finds that that region is the Hansom Air Force base, which is a bit of an outlier since it is tucked out in between Concord, Bedford and Lexington, the heart of suburban commuter territory.

  16. No, YOU are kidding, right? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Any information published about your habits erodes your privacy, whether you see it or not.

    Letter to the Editor @ NY Times:

    Dear Sir,

    I find it highly innappropriate that you have made my personal information available via your website!

    Sincerely,

    Dr. Sanfransisco Bayarea

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  17. Other cities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you get other areas of the country (since this is on Google maps, etc) or did Netflix only give out certain areas/did the New York Times only map these cities?

  18. note: ranking is biased by instant viewing by ren-n-stimpy · · Score: 1

    note: this ranking is biased by instant viewing.

    "instant view" titles are those you watch on your computer (or roku or xbox or whatever). they are "second tier" movies only. but, because they are convenient, they got a TON more views than movies you have to actually get the CD mailed to you for.

    so, what you're seeing here is a hybrid list, with "top tier" movies vote counts watered down by over-counts of instant-play-ables.

    fwiw.

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  19. Apparently in Minneapolis by Sebilrazen · · Score: 1

    We love us some gay and lesbian movies.

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    1. Re:Apparently in Minneapolis by Sebilrazen · · Score: 1

      And there are very few people getting movies made for the black audience.

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    2. Re:Apparently in Minneapolis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think I may be skewing the results as we downloaded every movie in the top 10 for my zip code months ago.

  20. Best thing I've seen in the New York Times but... by Thagg · · Score: 1

    I am in despair over the newspaper industry. The country and the world has needed news researchers, and over the last half-century that has been the province of big newspapers like the Times, the LA Times, the Wall Street Journal, and others.

    Lately, though, newspapers subscription rates have fallen dramatically, their income has fallen even faster, and they're all cut back on their research budgets.

    Here, though, we see a truly interesting tool, one that gives more insight the more one plays with it (as the long articles in newspapers used to do the same as you read through them.) The credit list on this webapp is long, the quality of the presentation is absolutely top-notch, and the bandwidth behind it apparently infinite. That the New York Times would do this is commendable.

    Would CNN.com do this? Could Google News do this? Drudgereport? No, those sites are merely aggragators. They are only interested in what happened in the last 24 hours, at best.

    But, unfortunately for the Times, this remarkable tool is inaccessible in their dead-tree edition. I suppose it is a loss-leader for them, and a worthwhile one, but it does reinforce all the thousand other indicators that traditional newspapers are dying.

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  21. DC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll bet there is a correlation between crime rate and frequency of rentals of Tyler Perry movies in SE DC and PG county.

    Also, military bases rent a lot of kids movies and yuppie pricks in MoCo rent Milk.

  22. Lies... and statistics by anvilmark · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure what you can reliably take away from these statistics. Since it is only rentals it excludes the following conditions:

    Did they go see it in the theater and now own the DVD? (will probably never rent)
    Did they go see it in theaters and didn't care for it? (will probably never rent)

    This means that the stats only capture those who
    1) Didn't see it in theaters - i.e. it wasn't a big deal to see it / they didn't consider it worth the ticket price
    2) Are curious enough about it to rent it later

    After renting once, did they buy it for their personal library, or say 'meh' and never watch it again?

  23. 55450 is watching Battlestar Galactica S3 by mounthood · · Score: 1

    Most watched for 55450 is Battlestar Galactica season 3 and nothing else. It's the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport; on the map it's the empty grey area south of the cities. Maybe this is TSA homework?

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    1. Re:55450 is watching Battlestar Galactica S3 by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      I think we've located the lost colony.

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      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  24. 80225 is one person's most rented list by mounthood · · Score: 1

    Checkout 80225 in Denver - small grey square east of down town above the "L" for Lakewood. It looks like just one persons queue; titles from the same series, common sense of humour, etc... Plus, according to this random page there's only one person living in that zip code. I think we have winner for this round of "thoughtless privacy invasion".

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  25. how is it an invasion of privacy? by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

    its information in aggregate. privacy implies PERSONALLY identifying information

    if i say "wilbur cross of madison wisconsin rented 'no country for old men'" then that's an invasion of privacy

    if i say "323 people in madison wisconsin rented 'no country for old men'" then there is no invasion of privacy

    its ok to get upset about invasion of privacy. getting upset about it when none actually occurs is some sort of spastic hysteria, a triumph of emotion over logic. save your ammo for real battles

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