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Pneumatic Tube Communication In Hospitals

blee37 sends along a writeup from the School of Medicine at Stanford University on their pneumatic tube delivery system, used for sending atoms not bits. Such systems are in use in hospitals nationwide; the 19th-century technology is enhancd by recent refinements in pneumatic braking. "Every day, 7,000 times a day, Stanford Hospital staff turn to pneumatic tubes, cutting-edge technology in the 19th century, for a transport network that the Internet and all the latest Silicon Valley wizardry can't match: A tubular system to transport a lab sample across the medical center in the blink of an eye."

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  1. Biggest problem with pneumatic tube communication by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The bandwidth sucks.

  2. Re:Biggest problem with pneumatic tube communicati by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

    Biggest problem with pneumatic tube communication: The bandwidth sucks.

    How do you figure? How much information is coded in a blood sample, for instance, if you count all the DNA/RNA sequencing? For that matter, how much information can you send if you load up a 16-Gb USB drive (or a few) and send them off in a tube?

    No, the bandwidth here is just fine.

    There has never been a more appropriate time for this response: WHOOSH! (as the parcel goes by in the tube)

  3. Re:Used in other places, too by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Oh, and Roosevelt Island (in the river between Manhattan and Queens) has pneumatic garbage collection. It's the only place in the US besides Disneyworld to do that. Apparently it works somewhat-not-unlike a packet-switched network, periodically connecting garbage and recycling loads from different places to the appropriate suction via the same set of tubes.

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  4. Common in the UK, good way to loose an ear by AndyGasman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They are pretty common in the UK, in all sort of industries.

    Tesco supermarket uses them in some stores for moving cash to tills, and they are widely used in Hospitals.

    There is one great, if slightly lengthy story that a friend tells, from when she was working in a hospital in Western Scotland a few years ago, I'll try to recount it best as I can.

    A patient who has Hepatitis and Epilepsy is admitted to the hospital, he had a fit, and his Dog bit his ear off while he was fitting. So he came to hospital with his ear in his pocket. He was treated in A&E (UK ER) and sent up to the surgical department. His Ear though was wrapped up and put in a tube, however before the doctor could tap in the destination, the pod whizzed off. The hepatitis positive ear was not found for several days (is this just a bit error rate?), as it was quiet a big hospital with a lot of tubes. It could have been worse, as the ear was not intended to be sown back on, but just photographed and incinerated. The doctor who put the ear in the pod was known as Stupid Dave before the incident, but I'm sure this didn't help him shake of the moniker. The worst thing is, most people just ask what happened to the dog.

    You don't get that with TCP/IP

  5. Re:Used in other places, too by alan_dershowitz · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what you're saying is that mail in NYC is a truck you put things on, not a series of tubes?

  6. Re:Rollofle, you can't download a pizza either by Discordantus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The point of this article is that pneumatic tube networks are frelling cool, and they're old tech. To many persons of geeky persuasion (including me), this type of thing is fascinating.

  7. Re:Big supermarkets have them here. by I_am_Jack · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the blower from a vacuum cleaner at a car wash would be more than enough to power a 100mm dia. (4" in the US, which is a standard tube size here for pneumatic tube systems) point-to-point line, and you could move the carrier several hundred meters with a payload up up to a half kilo. You could use ABS sewage line. The problem is how you would create bends and offsets. The smallest radius for a standard size carrier in a 100mm dia. tube is 60cm. Sealing the system is really not much of an issue. And if you use a piece of 70mm pipe, you'd need to wrap the outside with the fuzzy velcro strips at equadistant points to make your seal in order to allow the pressure/vacuum to propel the carrier. I used to sell the big systems to hospitals for a living.

  8. Re:Ding Ding by Vegeta99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When I was in high school, I quite stereotypically worked at McDonald's. To this day, whenever I eat there, I can tell you EXACTLY what is happening in the kitchen. Someone really paid attention to make sure no function requiring human attention in that kitchen had the same sound.

    Sometimes, if some jerkoff called off and you were stuck back in the kitchen alone, it was MADDENING. You absolutely are more aware of a loud, high pitched beep than a voice telling you to do something

  9. Re:This must have had the endorsement of.... by EdIII · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The funny thing to me is why people make fun of him at all. He is not an IT guy. In layman's terms a series of tubes is actually appropriate.

    You can look at a CAT5 cable and a fiber optic cable as being a tube, and information being droplets of water. All of the fiber running across the world is essentially a series of tubes and used to transport these droplets of information from one place to another.

    It is a little more complex than that of course. We have routers and switches which inspect those droplets of information and route them through other tubes, modify them, or just discard them which occurs at layers 2 and 3.

    I don't think it is unreasonable or stupid to liken layer 1 infrastructure to a series of tubes. It's a pretty easy abstraction to construct if you don't have an in-depth understanding of the technology.

  10. Re:Used in other places, too by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heck, the first New York City subway was pneumatic. (It was also very short, and short-lived.)

    Could that be because it sucked?

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  11. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used such tubes all day, every day, for several years, doing Neutron Activation Analysis. The samples were loaded three per tube, known as rabbits. They went into the slot, closed and blew down the outside wall of the building, underground, and then up into the core of our TRIGA reactor. There they got neutrons of various energies for anywhere from 0.05 to 2-3 seconds, and then they blasted back to me. Behind the shields I removed the samples and placed them at the gamma detectors--moving very fast. Counting gammas took anywhere from seconds to days, depending upon type and elements.

    We proved the existence of the Northern Hemisphere ozone depletion with 800 samples, and several of my graduates got PhDs. Another project showed trade routes extant through northern Italy at the construction of the Colliseum.

    Once in a while a rabbit would get stuck. A particularly hot one did, right at the corner of my lab. We timed that test so no one else was in the building, and it got so hot it wouldn't come back past the tube joint. If I hadn't known just where the 36" wrench was, the building could have been badly contaminated, and would've shut down, as in national news. I got it out without too much exposure, and was offered the job as building manager later.

    Another time a sample exploded while removing it from a rabbit, showering my nose with hot dust. I still get stray hairs growing there...

  12. Re:Ding Ding by The+Wild+Norseman · · Score: 5, Funny

    To help alert employees to the arrival of containers, the system has more than three dozen different combinations of chiming tones.

    bing bing bong bong
    bing bing bong bong
    "Well, Theresa, aren't you going to get that?"
    "Hell no! That's Marty from accounting! He's been trying to contact me ever since he thought I was coming on to him at the Christmas party. As if!"
    "No, that's not Marty. Marty is bing bing bing bong and not bing bing bong bong. That's Bill in IT."
    "Are you sure? I thought Bill's was bing bong bong bing."
    "Nope. You might be confusing that with Jerry which is bong bing bong bingybong."
    "Okay, but only if you're sure."

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  13. Re:Used in other places, too by Sporkinum · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That is not unlike what I remember as a kid at a local department store. They didn't have cash registers, they had a table/desk with a tube endpoint on it. The clerk would take your check/money and a hand written bill and put it in the tube pod. It would shoot up to the 5 floor where the ladies handled the cash. After a short wait, a tube pod would come down with your receipt and any change you were due. It fascinated me and was always a treat to go there. It was also a treat because they had an elevator with dual doors and a guy that ran it.

    Now get off my lawn!

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