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Here We Go Again — Video Standards War 2010

Andy Updegrove writes "Think of the words 'standards war,' and if you're of a certain age you're likely to think of the battle between the Betamax and VHS video tape formats. Fast forward, and you'll recall we just finished another video standards war between most of the same companies, this time between HD DVD and Blu-ray. Well, here we go again, except this time its the movie studios that are duking it out, and DRM issues are a big part of it. On the one side are five of the six major studios, dozens of cable, hardware, software, distribution and device vendors, and on the other side there's just Disney — and maybe Apple as well, and that's enough to have the other side worried."

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  1. Thanks but no thanks. by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    [T]his time its the movie studios that are duking it out, and DRM issues is a big part of it.

    I tend to prefer those video standards which are inclusive and unencumbered such as xvid and x264. They've survived. Our library, some of which is many years old, still plays.

    No central server to authorize and track our viewing habits. No chance of having my devices' keys revoked. No need to keep all our gear connected to the net.

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    1. Re:Thanks but no thanks. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No need to keep all our gear connected to the net.

      That's a big one. I won't purchase any content or product that requires "phoning home". If a company puts out a product and is hostile enough to me that they're going to require I be connected to their servers, I'll find "another solution".

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  2. Aliens vs. Predator... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Whoever wins, we lose."

    1. Re:Aliens vs. Predator... by sakdoctor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      After the epic battle between HD DVD and Blu-ray, I bought an up-scaling DVD player with USB mass storage/Xvid support.

      HD DVD and Blu-ray are the new betamax.

  3. DRM's added value actually appears by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They've got some cheek, acting like letting us view the same content on multiple devices is an amazing new revolution. We could do that before DRM, and it would've been easy for them to manage DRM such that people could grab more authorised, licenced copies in different formats. That's the whole point of having a licence instead of a physical product.

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  4. The TRUE standards war... by jjoelc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    True standards will only be set by the end users. If nobody buys it, is it a standard?

    If there are 1000 Xvid copies around for every BD copy sold... which one is the standard?

  5. Wrong "two sides" by QuietLagoon · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The two real sides in the battle at those who are in favor of DRM in any shape or form; and those consumers who want to own and control the content they purchase.

    If you RTFA, the two "sides" in that article are really on the same side, that is, the side of removing the consumers' rights for the content the consumers purchase.

  6. Good on ya, Apple by argent · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With the multiyear HD DVD Blu-ray battle still a recent memory, we have a new standards face off in video, just as we do in eBooks, and just as it looks like we may in on-line print, where a new consortium led by the News Corporation and others is launching a standards-based "digital newsstand." All of these devices, of course, are targeted at you and I, and each has the potential to not only extend the woes of the music/video/print vendors behind these standards battles, but to waste your money and mine as well.

    Does that strike you as a shame?

    Hell no. The last thing we need is easy to use, standardized DRM. Apple derailed Microsoft's attempt to make Plays for Sure the boot stamping in the face of the music lover, forever, by making sure NOBODY won the music DRM wars. It looks like they're up to their loveable tricks again, and I salute them for it. A fragmented, hard to use, unreliable DRM ecosystem is to the consumer's benefit in the long term.

  7. Re:Nothing new here.. by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From TFA:

    In the case of the Disney approach, existing standards will be used to make the system work. But in the case of DECE, both content and devices will need to implement a new format standard created by DECE.

    There lies the rub: Few want to replace all their gear just for a new DRM. I think Disne's seems the least unreasonable. If they eschewed DRM entirely, that would be reasonable, since DRM itself encourages piracy by making the legit data hard to work with and the pirate content easy.

    IMO we're in a world wide recession because the Ferengis who run things aren't very reasonable, nor smart. If they'd stop worrying about pirates they'd sell more "content" and make more money.