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Boxee Opens Beta To All

DeviceGuru writes "Boxee has quietly moved its long-awaited Beta release onto its public download site, reports OpenBoxeeBox.com. The new version of this free Internet- and local- A/V streaming player currently supports PCs running Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Ubuntu OSes, with an Apple TV version coming soon. Key enhancements include a vastly redesigned homescreen and new global menu, which collectively make it much quicker to locate content, an improved search function that now treats online and local media equivalently, so you can locate and play movie or TV show titles much faster, plus — at long last — a fully functional Netflix instant-downloads player appears in the Windows version (but not in the Linux version). Also of significance is that Boxee's graphical engine has migrated from from OpenGL to DirectX, allowing it to take advantage of Direct X video acceleration. The free public Boxee Beta A/V player software is available on Boxee's website."

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  1. The article forgot to mention by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 2, Informative

    It supports not only Windows XP, but Vista and 7, but only 32-bit versions.

    In contrast it supports Ubuntu 64-bit.

    1. Re:The article forgot to mention by jwietelmann · · Score: 5, Informative

      It supports not only Windows XP, but Vista and 7, but only 32-bit versions.

      In contrast it supports Ubuntu 64-bit.

      To clarify, you can absolutely run 32-bit Boxee on a 64-bit version of Windows, so it technically supports 64-bit Windows Vista and 7. They just don't provide a native 64-bit version of Boxee.

  2. Damn it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When the fuck will either Netflix move away from Silverlight or Moonlight support the Netflix player? This is currently my single biggest gripe on Linux by far.

    1. Re:Damn it. by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 2, Informative

      So you're pissed at linux about Moonlight not doing Netflix well? Shouldn't you be pissed that Netflix doesn't ensure their player works on Moonlight, and therefore linux?

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    2. Re:Damn it. by jank1887 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      oh... just saw the comment below about DRM specifically whacking unsupported clients. didn't realize it wasn't just a compatibility issue. What would it take to get the Moonlight developers to contact/work with the Netflix developers on that point? (i'm guessing a miracle)

    3. Re:Damn it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      So you're not allowed to dislike Linux on Slashdot?

      Wait, what am I saying? Of course you can't.

    4. Re:Damn it. by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      visual studio

      All OS, text editor, and compiler zealotry aside... WTF???

      If you are doing Windows development, you should be doing it in Windows. Expecting Linux to work for you if the tasks you need to preform are distinctly Windows related is just nuts. Use the right tool for the job.

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    5. Re:Damn it. by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, people disagreeing with you is not a troll. At worst they're just wrong. In this case, though, he's absolutely right. I also gave up on linux recently, largely due to issues similar to his. I really wanted to use it as my full-time OS, and I went for about 2 months without booting into windows even once. In the long run, though, the numerous small deficiencies (combined with a X-server memory leak that nobody seemed to know how to fix) were just too much to put up with. Windows 7 works out of the box, and doesn't go out of it's way to frustrate me on a regular basis. I can't say the same for any flavor of Linux. They have their uses, but as a full time desktop OS they've still got some work to do.

    6. Re:Damn it. by Tikkun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There are lots of really awesome things about Linux. Running proprietary software and supporting DRM infested platforms are not among them.

    7. Re:Damn it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      He said it wasn't a fit for him because it doesn't run the apps he needs/prefers. There's nothing "moronic" about that, nor was any part of his post "whining". You're just furious because he dares to have tastes that differ from yours, so much so that you felt the need to lie about what he said.

  3. Re:DirectX on Linux? by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative

    VLC has long supported various output APIs, mostly because on different platforms, different APIs have varying levels of driver support and varying performance. I imagine this is similar.

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  4. Re:DirectX on Linux? by Tapewolf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Abstraction layers.

  5. Best interface ever... by Improv · · Score: 3, Funny

    I really hope the new interface is based on Boxxy.

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  6. Re:Great! Now I can watch by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sup dawg, I heard you like 4chan so we put a Boxxy on your Boxee so you can troll while you troll.

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  7. Linux 64 Bit Support by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm glad to see they've finally started offering a native 64 bit version for Linux. Previously, I had been providing patches/scripts to allow folks to compile it themselves on their forums (I'm a moderator on their Linux forum). There's currently a RPM on the Linux forum for Fedora 12, but as I don't run Fedora any more, I can't vouch for it. I have personally compiled the latest Beta on Gentoo ~amd64 and it works fine with some minor tweaks (I plan to submit an ebuild to Gentoo Bug 258082). One thing to note if you do compile from source is that their XULRunner included in the flashplayer portion of their source is missing 64 bit shared objects (this causes flash to break). I've submitted a bug to get the XULRunner updated, but haven't heard anything.

    I've ran the closed Beta for the last month and so far it's very promising. I just wish Boxee's development process was more open.

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  8. GNU/Ubuntu by McGiraf · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Ubuntu OSes"

    Not Linux? :)

    So now Ubuntu is to Linux what Kleenex is to tissue?

    GNU/Ubuntu sounds weird though.

    1. Re:GNU/Ubuntu by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Mac OS X, Windows XP, and Ubuntu OSes"

      Not Linux? :)

      Nope, not Linux.

      So now Ubuntu is to Linux what Kleenex is to tissue?

      Nope, it's just not available to Linux at large. It's not open source. You can download an Ubuntu .deb of the binaries, but if you want to run it another distribution? Sorry, Charlie.

  9. What exactly is boxee good for??? by BurkeTheEldar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have zilch experience with boxee but did spend some time on it's site a couple of weeks ago to see if it might be of utility when viewing tv shows or movies online. For the life of me I could not figure out what its supposed to do 'for me'. The boxee website is a great example of what happens when they people involved are so deeply entrenched in whatever realm boxee is that they have no clue how to communicate to 'regular' people.

    A site like hulu is easy to figure out. But it's got too many commercials and they seem to be adding more all the time. Boxee...someone tell me what it's good for? Like you were explaining to someone who didn't know already???

    1. Re:What exactly is boxee good for??? by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Informative

      Boxee gives you a 10 foot interface. It provides a nice interface to websites like Hulu, TV.com, and things like cnet TV.
      It also supports audio and video podcasts and on Windows NetFlix.
      If you want to build a media PC that works more like a set top box than a PC then Boxee is a great program to try.
      They are also pushing a new BoxeeBox which looks really nice. The lack of mass storage and a bit torrent client is a slight downer but for a set top box it looks just about perfect. Well except that case is too cool IMHO. I would like something a bit plainer.

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    2. Re:What exactly is boxee good for??? by SlashdotOgre · · Score: 4, Informative

      Previously the web site had a great intro video that actually explained it fairly well. I'm not quite sure when that was changed, but since I've been running the alpha for roughly a year now, I can try taking a stab at it.

      Boxee's goal is to be a "social media player" where you can watch media from various sources, see what your friends are watching, and let your friends know what you're watching. By "media" it's referring to TV, movies, music, and pictures. The source of most of the content comes from the Internet (although it definitely supports offline and local network content). Boxee provides a framework to create native applications that allow aggregating and viewing of the online media (basically XBMC plugins if you're familiar with that app), for example there's apps for Hulu, Pandora, Flickr, etc. Boxee automatically monitors what you and your friends watch, and allows you to browse the history of it as well. Boxee also offers other cool features like grabbing metadata for local content. E.g. if it detects a ripped copy of Season 1 of The Office, it will grab screen shots and descriptions of each episode from IMDB.

      Personally I've found Boxee's primary benefit is for aggregating media. With the new version, I can search a TV show title and it comes up with all the episodes I can stream regardless of the source (e.g. episodes from Hulu, nbc.com, etc.). I'm not a big fan of the social aspect, but it's not a deal breaker (I just ignore it). So far I've been very impressed with both the alpha and beta releases and would definitely recommend giving the software a go.

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    3. Re:What exactly is boxee good for??? by BurkeTheEldar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I guess I don't see what the thrill is, exactly. If it's main function is to provide a single interface to 'channels', and I would still have to suffer through endless credit card commercials, then...sigh. Thanks for the input though.

    4. Re:What exactly is boxee good for??? by Lumpy · · Score: 2, Informative

      XBMC gives you a 10 foot interface as well. Boxee on the other hand frustrated my wife something fierce, so I stopped using it. the latest XBMC release absolutely clobbers boxee though if you dont care about any of the social crap or trying to watch youtube and other low grade online media. There is a podcast catcher you can install that grabs the high def podcasts automatically though. She likes that.

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    5. Re:What exactly is boxee good for??? by sootman · · Score: 2, Informative

      Great summary, thanks. Now, a question, and I'm not being a smartass: is there any good software that does the exact opposite? I absolutely do not care about the built in social aspects of the software, nor do I use services like Hulu. (Internet connection and computers at home are on the slow side.) I do, however, have an extensive collection of video from various sources--ripped DVDs, captured from a TV card, etc. I just want something that lets me browse this with a good "ten foot interface" and do other useful things. (Playlists, searchable, etc.) I like Apple's Front Row but could go for something a little more powerful. Any suggestions?

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  10. Re:DirectX on Linux? by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Neither do I, how is going from OpenGL to DirectX an "upgrade" either?

  11. I've gone back to XBMC. by Jason+Pollock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been a faithful user of Boxee for the past year, but the Beta convinced me to go back to XBMC.

    Problems I had with Boxee:
    1) Didn't expose all features of XBMC, such as Synch Display Refresh Rate to Media. I've got a TV that can do 24hz, 50hz,60hz, etc, why should I see pull down artifacts? I also wanted the Skip Direct to Menu option for DVD playback.
    2) Boxee hasn't fixed problems from the Alpha - I've got some ISO rips which still fail to playback in Boxee. XBMC and VLC have no problems with them. This was a _huge_ WAF issue. She had gone back to pulling the DVDs out of storage to watch them!
    3) The Social Media aspect was pointless. None of my friends were using Boxee, and aren't likely to. It was pure clutter between me and my media. Note: You can't unsubscribe from Avner's feed!
    4) Not being able to watch videos, or listen to music until it had finished scanning my collection. I have 4TB of media, don't make me wait.
    5) When I upgraded to the Beta, my remote control stopped working. :) The packages overwrote files that I had changed to get everything working.
    6) Their releases are a long time apart.
    7) Even when I submitted a patch for a bug, it didn't make it into the Beta.

    The only thing I seem to be giving up is Hulu support, which if it really annoys me, I can port back into XBMC.

    I wish them luck, the Boxee box announced at CES looks pretty cool, and the $200 price point is pretty compelling. It's just not for me.

  12. Re:What's so special about Ubuntu “Karmic&am by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This wouldn't work on fedora 12?

    Apparently not.

    I mean, the kernels are Linux - period. So, I'm not getting why the specification of Ubuntu here.

    It takes a lot more than a kernel to install and run a program, which list grows only longer and more complex the more complicated the program is, and they're all different from distro to distro. For one thing, they're only offering a .deb file--there's no RPM. I wouldn't be surprised if dependency hell made it a major hackery job just to get it up and running in Debian, let alone a distro as different as Fedora.

  13. Obligatory by Tikkun · · Score: 2, Informative

    No Linux Netflix Streaming. Binary Deb Package. Lame.

  14. Nothing to do with OpenGL by pavon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reporting on this has been extremely bad. This all has to doing video decoding in hardware. DirectX has APIs for that, and they are now being used in the Windows version. The Linux version continues to use the relevant Xorg extensions (XvMC?) for video decoding.