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Judge Lowers Jammie Thomas' Damages to $54,000

An anonymous reader writes "Judge Michael Davis has slashed the amount Jammie Thomas-Rassett is said to owe Big Music from almost $2,000,000 to $54,000. 'The need for deterrence cannot justify a $2 million verdict for stealing and illegally distributing 24 songs for the sole purpose of obtaining free music. Moreover, although Plaintiffs were not required to prove their actual damages, statutory damages must still bear some relation to actual damages.' The full decision (PDF) is also available."

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  1. My favorite part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    Per NewYorkCountryLawyer:

    Judge Davis also indicated that he found even the reduced amount to be "harsh" and that, were he -- rather than a jury -- deciding the appropriate measure of damages, the award would have been even lower than $54,000. But he felt that since the jury had determined the damages, it was his province to determine only the maximum amount a jury could reasonably award.

    1. Re:My favorite part by sanosuke001 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I know it won't be as funny pointing out the irony, but it's his decision on what is the maximum amount reasonable so he goes on to say that he can't make the amount lower because it isn't his decision? How the hell did he drop it to $54,000 if it wasn't his decision?

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    2. Re:My favorite part by DeadDecoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe because there's some legal specification as to the min/max of statutory dmgs? As a judge he is allowed to move the slider but not change the endpoints, I'm guessing.

    3. Re:My favorite part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As I understand it (I'm not a lawyer):

      His decision was that the amount awarded was in violation of the principles of remittitur. As a result, it was his duty to find the absolute maximum in damages which could be awarded based on the violations. In this case, he determined that sharing 24 songs could be worth, at most, $54,000 in damages ($2,250 per song).

      He ALSO felt that, while that was the maximum in damages, he believed this case was not deserving of the maximum in damages. HOWEVER, he felt that while altering the damages awarded to be in line with remittitur were within his powers, he did not feel that lowering it further were, and thus let the judgement of the jury stand as much as possible.

    4. Re:My favorite part by PunditGuy · · Score: 5, Informative

      $750 minimum x treble damages for willful infringement x 24 violations = $54000.

    5. Re:My favorite part by Applekid · · Score: 5, Funny

      Treble damages? Were the shared songs THAT bad?

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    6. Re:My favorite part by Ossifer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just wait until they apply bass damages...

    7. Re:My favorite part by EvanED · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, he might have chosen to triple it, but treble damages are not part of the statute.

      This is correct; the decision addresses this issue:

      Of course, the Copyright Act contains no treble damages provision. The Courts remittitur is not an attempt to create such a provision. Rather, the Court has labored to fashion a reasonable limit on statutory damages awards against noncommercial individuals who illegally download and upload music such that the award of statutory damages does not veer into the realm of gross injustice. Finding a precise dollar amount that delineates the border between the jurys wide discretion to calculate its own number to address ThomasRassets willful violations, Plaintiffs farreaching, but nebulous damages, and the need to deter online piracy in general and the outrageousness of a $2 million verdict is a considerable task. The Court concludes that setting the limit at three times the minimum statutory damages amount in this case is the most reasoned solution.

    8. Re:My favorite part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They were MP3s - of course the treble was damaged

    9. Re:My favorite part by nacturation · · Score: 5, Informative

      Bullshit. $54,000 is one THIRD of the median home price. Where do you get your information, and why did you bother posting that?

      Quit trolling. The original statement was:

      To put it in perspective, $54,000 would buy a house in her neighborhood.

      So here you go. A house for $54,000 in Brainerd, Minnesota: http://kurilla.com/listing.cfm?MLS=188019

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    10. Re:My favorite part by Psion · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wow. Looks like someone just found out they paid too much money for their house.

  2. Alt Title: Judge Makes Damages Only Mostly Insane by viking099 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    $54,000 is still a crazy amount all things considered, but hopefully this judgment can stand as a sort of benchmark for future ones, even if it's not setting a precedent.

  3. Some relation? by Rix · · Score: 4, Informative

    The wholesale price of 24 songs is $16.80. $54,000 is over 3,000 times the maximum possible damages.

  4. Stealing? by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'The need for deterrence cannot justify a $2 million verdict for stealing and illegally distributing 24 songs for the sole purpose of obtaining free music.

    I take issue with the language used. If I download and then upload a song, that's copyright infringement. If I walk into WalMart and shoplift a CD, that's stealing. WalMart has been deprived of their property. In neither case has the record company been deprived of anything. Plus, WalMart owns the CD, Warner does NOT own the music. In the US, this "property" belongs to all of us; the "content creator" has a limited time monopoly on its publication, not ownership.

    If I steal a CD and get caught I have a misdemeanor criminal charge and a few hundred dollar fine, but if I infringe copyright and get caught it costs $50k. This is better than before, but still very bad.

  5. Welp... by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...I think it is still a bit much, but it's a hell of a lot better than it was. I like that the judge acknowledged that he wasn't doing this because he sympathised with the defendant, but rather was disgusted with the punishment based on the crime. The reasons he gave for changing the amount are the way a judge SHOULD be.

  6. It's a positive by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yes the amount is still absurd, but at least the principle that the statutory damages must bear a reasonable relationship to the actual damages has been invoked and vindicated. My blog post is here: Jammie Thomas verdict reduced from $1.92M to $54,000 and my Slasdhot submission is here.

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  7. Re:They need to by plague3106 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have a restaurant. You run around town telling people we spit in each and every plate that goes out. I've lost business because of it. Are you saying I'd have to go and find each and every person that didn't come to my restaurant because of your lies? Even if I could find them all, what possible way would I have to convince them to testify for me?

    Any simple solution to a complex problem is wrong.

  8. Actual damages are 35 cents per work by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 5, Informative

    The maximum actual damages is ~35 cents per infringed work, since the wholesale price is ~70 cents and the expenses are around ~35 cents. Under constitutional principles, the statutory damages awarded should not have exceeded $1.40 per infringed work, or a total of $33.60. Even the reduced award is 6428 times the actual damages, a grossly excessive amount.

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    1. Re:Actual damages are 35 cents per work by EvanED · · Score: 5, Funny

      The judge seemed to indicate he thought $54,000 was still high, how did he settle on that number?

      Hmmm, if only he wrote some sort of opinion that explained his reasoning...

  9. learn to read? by ClioCJS · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think you missed the part where distributing was never proved.

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    1. Re:learn to read? by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Perhaps, but I didn't miss the part where the judge explained (citing case law) that statutory damages are intended to be a replacement for unproven and potentially unprovable actual damages.

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    2. Re:learn to read? by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 4, Informative

      the average seed ratio is between 0 and 2 uploads per download. 100 is possible, but highly unlikely. 3000 is absolutely absurd, especially for someone who is supposedly only sharing 24 songs.

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  10. Re:3 - 5 years? by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Depending on his salary and how much he wants to spend on living expenses, he can pay that off in a few years.

    And if he didn't have to pay it off, he could, you know, spend the money on something that enriches society, like, say, purchasing a piece of real estate and thus maybe helping someone retire, purchasing a LOT of music legally and thus, compensating the artists justly, purchasing some new gizmos and gadgets that help sales rates and thus, help companies like Apple and Motorola and Google and so on continue to produce new, good products. In other words, he could spend that $54,000 on living and that money would get distributed throughout society. Now, instead, it will filter into the check books of record execs and lawyers and be spent in the brothels of hell, thus bringing nearer the inevitable hell on Earth apocalypse....or on hookers and coke.

    1) It sets an example. Don't get caught

    To which I respond:

    Come a day there won't be room for naughty men like us to slip about at all

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  11. She'll never work again by Areyoukiddingme · · Score: 4, Informative

    As has been pointed out, that's roughly the value of a house in the area of the country she lives in. She's married now so I'm guessing she'll quit her job (if she hasn't already), and never work for a wage again. Since she can't get rid of the judgment by declaring bankruptcy, she has no incentive to ever earn money that will only be taken away from her.

    So the RIAA has only succeeded in removing one person from the labor pool. Congratulations.

  12. Irony by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here's a spot of irony for you...

    We used to say, "Dude, it's just infringement. It's not really theft."

    Now we say, "Christ, it's just petty theft."

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  13. Re:They need to by vagabond_gr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The cost of enforcement is pretty high, so actual damages might have to include those.

    This is totally absurd. If I steal a bread and the bakery develops their own hitech satellite surveillance system to catch me, they couldn't possible claim that they lost a billion dollars because I stole a bread.

    If the cost of enforcement is more that the actual damages, it's a stupid business decision and clearly their problem that they chose to do it.

  14. Shoplifting for fun and profit. by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What kind of punishment would I get for shoplifting a $16 CD? Isn't petty theft like a $500 fine and community service?

    Perhaps that's the lesson to be learned here. Don't pirate music, just go down to the local music store and steal it.

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  15. Re:3 - 5 years? by Zordak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Those kids were never going to college.

    She's a single mother of 4, that means not only did she not have the sense to not get knocked up without proper support, she did it 4 times. There isn't a lot of common sense in that family so its highly unlikely any of her rugrats are going to do anything more than Janitorial service. Its possible, but its just not a realistic expectation.

    Or, you know, it's possible that she was married and that her husband ran off with another man, or mysteriously disappeared from a bar one day, or was killed in an auto accident, or a million other things. But don't let facts like having no idea what her situation is get in the way of your right to sneer at her.

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