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Skydiver To Break Sound Barrier During Free-Fall

Hugh Pickens writes "Over fifty years ago, American Joe Kittinger made history by leaping from a balloon at 102,800 ft, and although many have sought to repeat the feat, all have failed. Now, BBC reports that Austrian extreme sportsman Felix Baumgartner will try to break the long-standing record for the highest ever parachute jump, skydiving from a balloon sent to at least 120,000 ft, and it is likely that 35 seconds into in his long free-fall of more than five minutes, he will exceed the speed of sound — the first person to do so without the aid of a machine. 'No-one really knows what that will be like,' says Baumgartner. Although challenges in the endeavor include coping with freezing temperatures and ultra-thin air, a key objective for Baumgartner will be to try to maintain a good attitude during the descent and prevent his body from going into a spin and blacking out. 'The fact is you have a lot of different airflows coming around your body; and some parts of your body are in supersonic flow and some parts are in transonic flow. What kind of reaction that creates, I can't tell you,' adds Baumgartner."

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  1. I'll bet by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's really going to hurt.

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    1. Re:I'll bet by kojimoto_atusis · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's really going to hurt.

      I'm just going to say... Best Darwin award EVER!

  2. Anyone else think.. by pnewhook · · Score: 4, Funny

    So I guess I'm not the only one to think this guy is going to die doing this stunt.

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    1. Re:Anyone else think.. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

      I suspected, and breaking slashdot rules and reading TFA confirmed, that his suit is designed to automatically deploy the parachute at some failsafe altitude, even if he blacks out earlier.

      Still plenty of room for things to go wrong, people manage to die doing perfectly ordinary parachuting from time to time; but probably more dramatic than dangerous.

    2. Re:Anyone else think.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      To go that fast, he will need to be extremely streamlined. Air becomes incompressible at supersonic speeds, so either his feet or head will need to handle the friction and stress created. I'd want a stability bar running the length of my body that my feet, legs, torso, shoulders, arms and head "clip" into.

      To get out of that streamlined attitude is easy. To get out of it safely is a different matter completely. I'd want a way to release a trailing parachute, attached to my shoulders, to bleed off most of the speed. Perhaps down to 200 mph.

      Slowing from 1200+ fps to 120 fps is a big deal and without extremely careful methods to retain something call static stability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longitudinal_static_stability and he will end up tumbling out of control, breaking limbs or worse.

      Any way, I wanna watch. I hope he does the trailing smoke thing!

  3. Re:no sound = no sound barrier by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    If there's enough atmosphere to lift a balloon, there's enough atmosphere to transmit sound.

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  4. Re:Star Trek by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Superman throwing that island into space then falling for me.

    That bit about Superman falling for you? That was a dream. :)

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  5. Failed how? by Greger47 · · Score: 5, Funny

    American Joe Kittinger made history by leaping from a balloon at 102,800 ft, and although many have sought to repeat the feat, all have failed.

    Failed?!? How can you fail that? Throw yourself self off the balloon and miss the ground?

    /greger

    1. Re:Failed how? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can fail to get the balloon to 102,800 ft.

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    2. Re:Failed how? by Mitchell314 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They're all still in orbit.

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    3. Re:Failed how? by Dachannien · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Paul Atreides: They tried and failed?
      Reverend Mother Mohiam: They tried and died.

  6. The real question is ... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... will he bounce?

  7. Just use a dummy first. by starbugs · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Test the survivability of this by using a dummy with G-force sensors (just like we see on Mythbusters).
    Then, if all goes well - try the stunt.

    And please, use some kind of stabilizer to make sure you don't turn into a frisbee.

    I do see potential in this 'experiment' if anyone ever needs to bail out on spaceship2.

    1. Re:Just use a dummy first. by icegreentea · · Score: 4, Informative

      They've had supersonic ejection seats for quite a while now. Pretty much every modern fighter jet has them. There was a successful ejection out of a modified SR-71 back in the 60s. They were flying at over mach 3. Pilot survived, the copilot drowned when after he landed in the water.

  8. Re:no sound = no sound barrier by dziban303 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If my calculations are correct, it's 623 ergs/quartic coloumb-acre.

  9. Physics novice, here: by captainskyhawk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Isn't "terminal velocity" lower than the speed of sound?

    1. Re:Physics novice, here: by WittyName · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The speed of sound depends on the density of the air. Your acceleration would also be affected, drag is at a cube rate or fourth?!? rate. Gravity depends on the distance from the center of the earth. Without doing the math, there should be some region where resistance is low, acceleration fairly high, allowing supersonic speed.

      Some body armor, perhaps a viscous gel embedded with carbon fiber, seems wise! Maybe a helmet to keep facial features from being torn removed.. Frost burn, too.

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  10. Re:A simple machine by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not true at all. He wants to exceed the speed of sound by falling quickly, but the dang balloon keeps lifting him up! If anything, it's actively working against him!

    On a more serious note, which simple machines would you say make up a balloon? Is it a pulley? A wedge? A lever? A balloon is just hot air in a sack. Nothing machine-like about that, though I suppose the mechanism for generating hot air may involve a machine, but that's tangential.

  11. Re:A simple machine by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Funny

    You must be a big hit at the parties.

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  12. Terminal Velocity and the Speed of Sound by Geoffrey.landis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pretty good information about high-altitude skydiving here: Speed of a Skydiver

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  13. Supplemental question by bobdotorg · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you fart while exceeding the speed of sound, will it make a noise?

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  14. golfer by mordorph · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver? one goes *Whack*... "D@mn". the other goes "D@mn"...Whack.

  15. Re:What ever happened to Terminal Velocity? by barzok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Except he won't be at 120,000 feet when he reaches 300 m/s, he's going to fall from that altitude.

    The question is will his velocity at any point during the descent be greater than the speed of sound; given that the speed of sound will be increasing while his terminal velocity will be decreasing, what you need to find the the point at which the two curves cross.

  16. Re:no sound = no sound barrier by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

    "There is an abrupt drag rise right around Mach 1, so there's a significant chance he could stabilize at, say, Mach 0.98 and be unable to accelerate further."

    He will need a very pointy hat.

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  17. Re:no sound = no sound barrier by zoloto · · Score: 4, Funny

    You never do until they leave. :(