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Russian Whistleblower Cop Arrested

Remember the Russian cop's YouTube narrative on police corruption? Reader Max_W writes with the news that Alexei Dymovsky, the cop whose videos started a movement, was arrested (Google translation; Russian original) on January 22, 2010. He is in prison in the south of Russia. Max_W adds: "It seems only a president is allowed to have a video blog in Russia."

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  1. Re:Not final by turgid · · Score: 4, Informative

    The UK has a law where citizens (usually brown ones with beards) can be detained for a month and a half without charge, usually in HMP Belmarsh.

  2. Join in the deadpool by posting below by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I give it 48 hours till he's found dead in his cell by apparent "suicide" by drowning himself in a pissbucket

  3. Re:Insert here by MichaelSmith · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia whistle blows you!

  4. Re:Not final by MarkvW · · Score: 5, Informative

    Bullshit. Mod parent way down. Parent is full of it.

    The US Constitution permits people to be held on a probable cause determination made by a policeman for up to 48 (forty-eight) hours. After 48 hours there must be judicial review of probable cause or the defendant must be released from custody. That's the Riverside case.

    A related provision requires the detained person to be charged within 72 hours of probable cause detention or released. That's the Gerstein case.

    The U.S. Constitution sets a minimum standard. States can set standards that are MORE protective of individual rights than the U.S. Constitution, but they cannot go below the constitutional standard.

  5. Corrupt cops act corruptly, film at 11 by russotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, was anyone really surprised? Mess with bad cops, and you'll come to a bad end. This is unfortunately true everywhere, including the United States.

    1. Re:Corrupt cops act corruptly, film at 11 by wizardforce · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No matter how common abuses of power are, they should never ever become so mundane as to not be newsworthy.

      --
      Sigs are too short to say anything truly profound so read the above post instead.
  6. In Soviet Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Soviet Russia cops arrest you. oh wait.

  7. Re:He's probably safer in jail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Fish in barrels around the world would probably disagree with you.

  8. Do not just type. Do something to help him! by reporter · · Score: 5, Informative
    The bravery of the policeman who risked his life by publicizing the corruption in his police department is remarkable proof that good people who think and act like Westerners still live in Russia. That he has been arrested and imprisoned is something that everyone on Slashdot knew would happen.

    Please. We should not merely talk and type about this tragedy. We should actually do something to help this victim of the Kremlin.

    For example, we could start a fund for his legal defense and possible eventual escape from Russia to the West. For the sake of humanity, we must not allow the Kremlin to kill him. The Kremlin has already killed too many innocent people.

    If this policeman dies mysteriously in prison, then I hope that someone -- anyone -- assassinates dictator Vladimir Putin.

  9. Re:Not final by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The US Constitution doesn't say anything about an absolute minimum time before being charged. Feel free to look it up, it is not in there. Court cases and Congress have determined the minimum time, but all the US Constitution has to say is that you have the right to a speedy trial (6th Amendment), that Congress can't suspend habeas corpus except during a rebellion (Art I, Sect 9), and that your rights can't be suspended without due process (14th Amendment). How long a person can be detained before being charged depends entirely on how these provisions are interpreted.

  10. Re:Do not just type. Do something to help him! by sopssa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I do generally agree with your statement, this is something that really caught my eye

    is remarkable proof that good people who think and act like Westerners still live in Russia.

    possible eventual escape from Russia to the West. For the sake of humanity, we must not allow the Kremlin to kill him. The Kremlin has already killed too many innocent people.

    Can I borrow your time machine back to cold war? Being someone who has actually lived in Russia and some time in the neighboring countries too, I don't see this "Western vs Russia" thing or rant about 'Kremlin'. People in Russia are extremely good people and friendly towards another human being. Even more than in western countries or my own country, where people usually are careless about each other. There is corruptness (sometimes bad too), but you do not change everything in a few days after fallen communism. It is getting there and this is another example about it.

    But should you think "Westerners" as better persons for some reason? No. In fact, they're losing on that regard.

  11. Re: He Has Tarnished The Glory Off? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any memorials to the 3,000,000 Ukrainians Stalin starved to death for fun? The KGB put posters up at the time saying "It is considered barbaric to eat your children" because people were eating their own children's bodies to try to stay alive. Stalin did not like cannibalism, even if he caused it. What a guy!!

  12. It's more complicated a story than it appears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Dymovsky affair is more complicated than merely a whistle blower cop who had enough, went public, and is now being prosecuted. For starters in his videos his biggest complaints arent about the corruption in the Russian police, but about low pay, long hours, not enough vacation time and not getting overtime pay for overtime hours. Basically his rants aren't about the bad Russian cops but about the bad Russian government that doesnt pay its cops and Mr. Dymovsky in particular enough money. He also signals out his immediate bosses for special attention, but this is because his bosses were trying to get him fired for various things taking BEFORE he put anything on Youtube. Major Dymovsky had a habit of not coming into work for weeks at a time and there were numerous complaints about him basically alleging he himself was extorting various businesses for money before he put anything on Youtube.

    Yulia Latynina who is easily the best credentialed opposition journalist in Russia has dismissed Dymovsky as a fraud on her radio show and in editorials. His complaint isnt with the system but with his own place in it -- he is no opponent of the Kremlin, but a guy who was trying to secure his own position.

    His own ex-wife has called him mentally unbalanced. He had a messy divorce involving death threats and other assorted stories fit only for the tabloids. The core of the Russian opposition has attempted to distance itself from him which is why you wont find more than a single mention of his arrest on newsru.com. Kasparov's group is the only one that is still seemingly embracing Dymovsky, but that's no surprise as they are the most discredited of the opposition movements in Russia.

    1. Re:It's more complicated a story than it appears by Theleton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sure you're right, but it's also true that most whistle-blowers have petty and selfish motives, and that they are often driven by personal grudges (which they tend to have a lot of, since they are generally quarrelsome and problematic people). Deep Throat apparently exposed Watergate because he was bitter about losing a promotion.

      It takes an unreasonable person to go up against the system and against the culture of one's organization. These people may not be personally admirable in the way we might like for a Hollywood good-guy/bad-guy story, but that doesn't make whatever revelations they provide less important. Nor does it make it OK to persecute them for it.

      Now maybe Dymovsky was arrested for some other shit he was involved in, but given Russia's history with internal critics, that would not be my first guess.

    2. Re:It's more complicated a story than it appears by horza · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't know if there was an extended YouTube version I didn't see, but the one I did wasn't anything of the sort.

      Basically his rants aren't about the bad Russian cops but about the bad Russian government that doesnt pay its cops and Mr. Dymovsky in particular enough money.

      From what I remember, he was pointing out that the latter led to the former. I also don't remember him singling himself out for a pay rise above and beyond anybody else.

      Major Dymovsky had a habit of not coming into work for weeks at a time

      Something to do with suffering from stress, and the breakdown leading to the confession on video as he couldn't take it any more?

      there were numerous complaints about him basically alleging he himself was extorting various businesses for money before he put anything on Youtube

      That was his whole point, wasn't it? He couldn't afford not to, and in fact would be ostracized by his colleagues if he didn't.

      Yulia Latynina who is easily the best credentialed opposition journalist in Russia has dismissed Dymovsky as a fraud on her radio show and in editorials.

      Fair enough.

      His complaint isnt with the system but with his own place in it -- he is no opponent of the Kremlin, but a guy who was trying to secure his own position.

      By saying he can't take it any more, and will quite happily quit. Obviously has designs on Putins job (not).

      His own ex-wife has called him mentally unbalanced. He had a messy divorce involving death threats and other assorted stories fit only for the tabloids

      So he is a Russian Tiger Woods. Big deal. This has nothing to do with anything. I don't know how authentic the video appeal is, but I find the Anonymous Coward posting very unconvincing.

      Phillip.