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Is Programming a Lucrative Profession?

itwbennett writes "A pamphlet distributed by blogger Cameron Laird's local high school proclaimed that 'Computer Science BS graduates can expect an annual salary from $54,000-$74,000. Starting salaries for MS and PhD graduates can be to up to $100,000' and 'employment of computer scientists is expected to grow by 24 percent from 2010 to 2018.' The pamphlet lists The US Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics as a reference, so how wrong can it be? 'This is so wrong, I don't know where to start,' says Laird. 'There are a lot of ways to look at the figures, but only the most skewed ones come up with starting salaries approaching $60,000 annually, and I see plenty of programmers in the US working for less,' says Laird. At issue, though, isn't so much inaccurate salary information as what is happening to programming as a career: 'Professionalization of programmers nowadays strikes chords more like those familiar to auto mechanics or nurses than the knowledge workers we once thought we were,' writes Laird, 'we're expected to pay for our own tools, we're increasingly bound by legal entanglements, H1B accumulates degrading tales, and hyperspecialization dominates hiring decisions.'"

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  1. In Defense of Statistics by btcoal · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only thing worse than a statistic is an anecdote. The author has his personal experience- fine. But my personal experience directly contradicts his. And the only statistics on the subject (from NACE and BLS) give a fairly Normal distribution of salaries between 57,000 and 151,000 (http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos304.htm) Median annual wages of computer and information scientists were $97,970 in May 2008. The middle 50 percent earned between $75,340 and $124,370. The lowest 10 percent earned less than $57,480, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $151,250. Median annual wages of computer and information scientists employed in computer systems design and related services in May 2008 were $99,900.

  2. No, it's $9 - Actual Reply to US Craigslist Post: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hello there!
    Please refer to your opening on job posting site. I, Rajesh Sharma, would like to apply for the job.
    I am working as a freelancer from Pune, India. I have over 7 years of experience in IT Industry with
    exposure to .NET Technologies as well as LAMP. My Key expertise is to develop Web Applications using:
    1. ASP.NET/C# with SQL Server 2005.
    2. PHP/MY SQL.
    I have experience working with distributed teams around the globe. I am self desciplined and self
    motivated who always belives in quality. I have a very good infrastructure with latest Hardware,
    Software, Telephone lines, and Broadband connection for communication.
    My hourly rates are $ 9 USD. If you are looking for freelancers, please reply with a time to
    discuss things over IM.

    Thanks,
    Rajesh

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    -actual reply to a craigslist posting in a major US city, looking for a software developer to work on site - received last week.

    Just so you know, it's $9 an hour without even shopping around, and that's not a joke.

    We all like to pretend this isn't here and it isn't happening, but I would say conservatively half the job market has disappeared in 10 years due to this currency/standard of living imbalance.

  3. Re:Capitalism will find a way by emmons · · Score: 4, Informative

    And then you guys raised taxes quite a bit to pay for reconstructing Eastern Germany - and haven't gotten around to lowering those taxes yet. Absorbing all of that is what killed your economy.

    That's not to say it's bad you guys did it - it was good and necessary to do. I just mean to say that Germany is a special case.

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    Do you even know anything about perl? -- AC Replying to Tom Christiansen post.