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Twitter Developing Technology To Thwart Censorship

SHMG writes "Micro-blogging site Twitter is developing technology that will prevent government censorship, after Iran and China moved to censor its users. Speaking at the World Economic Forum, Twitter CEO and co-founder Evan Williams said the company was working on 'hacks' to stop any blocking by foreign governments. 'We are partially blocked in China and other places and we were in Iran as well,' he said. 'The most productive way to fight that is not by trying to engage China and other governments whose very being is against what we are about.'"

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  1. In SOVIET RUSSIA... by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whenever there was a coup attempt going on in the USSR, the first place to get invaded by supporters of the coup the was the broadcasters, and then they had to get to the newspaper before it published the next issue. If they win over the media, they were effectively in power. If the media reports there's a coup in progress, then that would scramble the defenders of the existing rulers and it would fail. If the media reports the coup was successful, then whoever was reported to be the leader effectively had power.

    This is why governments like Iran and China want to control all forms of communications. If people can organize in a way the government can't easily listen in on or censor, then the government is going to fail. As we have seen, a government doesn't need to be good at helping its people as long as its good at controlling them. Squash your opposing people, and you've got an easy time governing the rest.

    1. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Strange, I lived in USSR and I can not recall a single coup except of revolutions of 1905 and 1917. But those were in Russian Empire, not USSR. Are you inventing a history to support your point?

    2. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Aren't you implicitly trusting that the news you were presented by the American media during the Cold War wasn't designed to manipulate your opinions of the Soviet government?

      Consider how today's American media presents the Chinese government. Who is it actually being mind-controlled?

    3. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      American news is the best you can get in the world. Woodward and Bernstein were able to publish news so scandalous it forced Nixon to resign. Does any other government allow that?

    4. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, you're right. America is the Land of the Free(TM)! What was I thinking?

      USA! USA! USA!

    5. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All european newspapers... And if you'd ever read any of them, you'd laugh at FOX news for the rest of your life...

    6. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by grcumb · · Score: 3, Insightful

      American news is the best you can get in the world. Woodward and Bernstein were able to publish news so scandalous it forced Nixon to resign. Does any other government allow that?

      Uh, yeah:

      • Keith Murdoch (ironically, Rupert Murdoch's father) broke the story of the Gallipoli debacle. It was the first public sign that WWI was anything other than a noble fight without terrible consequences.
      • E. D. Morel, who broke the story of atrocities in the Belgian Congo, as well as breaking the story that Great Britain and other allied nations had signed secret treaties that led to World War One.
      • William Russell, whose descriptions of conditions during the Crimean War not only brought down a government, but led to fundamental changes in patient care in modern warfare.

      Journalism has been a dirty business from the get-go, but for as long as there have been newspapers, there have been intrepid reporters who actually care about the truth and made a difference when they told it.

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    7. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

      Governments like Iran and China aren't the only ones who want to control all forms of communications. The US Government squashed numerous stories relating to the War on Terror by either asking news organizations not to publish or by claiming national security and telling them not to publish. The telecom spying scandal is the first example that comes to mind.

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    8. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by sp3d2orbit · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is no comparison between US censorship and Chinese or Iranian. If there was Jon Stewart would be dead.

    9. Re:In SOVIET RUSSIA... by countertrolling · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Two things:

      First, it was a joke

      Second, it doesn't matter where you are. The ruling party is more than happy to throw a member(Nixon) or two under the bus as an exercise in theatrics to maintain its power. The Chinese put to death officials who get caught. And will be on the first page. Nixon drew a nice retirement package. The power structure remains intact. A triumph indeed.

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  2. Other companies should follow suit. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 5, Insightful
    'The most productive way to fight that is not by trying to engage China and other governments whose very being is against what we are about.'"

    That Google / Apple / Microsoft / etc. would ever make such a statement...

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  3. Re:Central Choke Points by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My first question would be is peer-to-peer traffic regulated, and if so, how?

    Simple... controlling governments route all routes through the choke points. All traffic, even to the house next door, would have to go through the censorship point and then back to the destination.

    While the gov't might be able to cut off the main Internet egress points, all it would take is one person with a covert satellite link and a good p2p network.

    Simple... controlling governments ban satellite dishes.

    Or, maybe, a covert side channel on a bank leased line that runs to Switzerland, for example?

    Simple... controlling governments run the banks.

    How about packet radio?

    Simple... controlling governments don't allow consumer bandwidth. Try transmitting on an unlicensed spectrum here...

    Twitter isn't exactly super bandwidth intensive.

    Simple... controlling goverment loves things that are low-bandwidth and cleartext because that doesn't take much effort to scan what they've collected.

  4. Twitter technology to fight censorship... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's called "Not having anything to say worth censoring". It's foolproof!

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  5. Green-backs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "'The most productive way to fight that is not by trying to engage China and other governments whose very being is against what we are about.'"

    Making money?

  6. Re:How far should social responsibility reach? by biryokumaru · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's what I keep saying about defending Allah, but they still won't let me fly the airplane!

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  7. Re:How far should social responsibility reach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's what I keep saying about defending Allah, but they still won't let me fly the airplane!

    You should have posted as an AC... now they won't let you on the airplane anymore, either.

  8. problem is twitter users have comfortable life by jkajala · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I seriously doubt it's the Twitter users who will start revolution, at least in China. The revolution is still alive in the masses of countryside, like before. Just look at the incidents which have sparked there recently. For example, in one province a slight rise of bus ticket prices resulted in violent demonstrations. I'm 100% sure none of them had ever heard about Twitter. Twitter has maybe ~0.3% reach in China compared to population, that's about less people than Beijing pisses off routinely at once by moving a whole city because of one more dam or railroad every few months. Still, I have to give credit to Beijing as well. China's growth and drive has been nothing but unbelievable. It would not have been possible without making strong and fast decisions without asking much from the people. It's very easy to build a railroad if you just relocate the people by sending them a letter with two weeks notice time. China is run more like a company than western countries, and western companies generally love it. At least as long as it doesn't cross their interests.

  9. Re:How far should social responsibility reach? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sorry, I had to stop reading your post when you wrote that 'the entire point of having more than one government' - as if this were a design decision.

    "Yes, we considered a global government but decided against such because of a...b.. and c..." and this is how we have the system we have today.

  10. Re:How far should social responsibility reach? by sp3d2orbit · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Sea Shepherds practice terrorism

    If the Sea Shepherds used terrorism they would be a lot more effective. One RPG would put an end to the whaling for at least a season. In words of South Park, they are a bunch of vegan pussies.

  11. That quote comes to mind by halcyon1234 · · Score: 3, Funny

    'The most productive way to fight that is not by trying to engage China and other governments whose very being is against what we are about.'

    So... don't find a LAN war in Asia?