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Interview With a Convicted 419 Scammer

An anonymous reader writes "Scam awareness website www.scam-detectives.co.uk has published a two part interview with convicted Nigerian 419 scammer, 'John.' 'John' talks about his experiences of scam victims, how he gains their trust and convinces them to part with their money, and how he would go back for another 'bite' after the original scam, posing as a law enforcement official who has apprehended the scammer and recovered the funds ... for a fee, of course."

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  1. Haha! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When was the last time you had to pay the cops for a stolen wallet or purse that belonged to you?

    Very clever. I mean only those foolish enough to fall for the first scam could possibly be foolish enough to fall for that line. "John" clearly knows his target audience.

    1. Re:Haha! by mbone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Once people like this find a mark, they will always keep coming back.

    2. Re:Haha! by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Throwing good money after bad is hardly limited to 419 victims. It's like an IT project that you've invested a ton of money in and isn't performing and you've thrown out your Indian outsourcing team but this new team claims they can salvage most of it for a little more money. And they end up paying and ultimately still scrapping the whole system because it's hopeless but nobody wanted to admit the money is really gone. That part is really just human.

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    3. Re:Haha! by nomadic · · Score: 5, Insightful

      When was the last time you had to pay the cops for a stolen wallet or purse that belonged to you?

      It's possible asking that question in Nigeria would get you a different answer than asking it in the US.

    4. Re:Haha! by sheph · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, they do that with cars too. My truck was stolen, and the yard gets it at 9AM. They don't call me until 4:55 PM to tell me they've got it, but they close at 5. Then charged me for 3 extra days of storage over a holiday weekend. There isn't much distinction between the criminals and the "good guys" sometimes.

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  2. Re:Shock news! high income tempts youth into crime by quadelirus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And yet for every down on his luck guy that turns to crime there is a down on his luck guy that stays honest. Dealing with these people as anything other than criminals basically punishes the person who is honest while rewarding the person who isn't.

    I don't know what the solution is, other than continuing to support anti-corruption movements within countries and provide any support to help governments clean up their acts. When the governments become less corrupt, everybody in the country wins.

  3. Perspective anyone? by dorre · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I really think that the 'journalist' failed miserably.

    Although the story felt credible and added some insight into the scammers everyday life the story didn't provide any information. And in the end when the 'scammer' starts providing new information the 'journalist' get's angry and starts accusing him like a child.

    What if the 'scammer' can feel better about himself after spreading information? I mean shouldn't people who have done bad things be allowed to make remorse and NOT have to feel guilty their whole lives???? I mean Jesus Christ.....

  4. Re:Shock news! high income tempts youth into crime by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You're not tempted by the Ferrari because odds are, you can afford the transportation you need. OTOH, if you were living in the alley across from work because you couldn't afford a car or an apartment within reasonable transportation to work, you'd be a LOT more tempted, especially if the odds of being caught were next to nil. I'm not saying you'd take it, but you WOULD be more tempted.

    If you grew up and lived in a society where the only people you ever knew who actually had their physical needs met were corrupt, you might never develop a proper sense of morals at all. Every life lesson would be that morals make you starve.

  5. Re:what a crappy journalist by EricWright · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you read the comments after part 2, the interviewer freely admits he is not a trained journalist. Blogger != journalist, no matter how many people tweet to the contrary.

  6. Re:Shock news! high income tempts youth into crime by MozeeToby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But you can't deny that desperation can lead to crime. If the expected payout is $75K a year and I expect to make $2K a year at a legal job, that's $73,000 against the risk of getting caught. That's a choice between living in a shack, eating whatever you can afford that week, or having everything you ever dreamed. If you could find work making $10k a year, the difference then becomes being comfortable enough to raise a family without worying about your children starving or having everything you ever wanted.

    I'm certainly not saying don't punish the criminals. If someone shoplifts bread because their child is starving I can understand that and defend that, these people make the local equivilent of a million dollars and do so year after year; they know what they're doing is wrong and there is no moral recourse for it, they deserve to be punished. But there is a cost (risk) and a benifit to doing crime, upping the risk of getting caught should be only one side of a two edged sword. Giving people legal opportunities to support their family and meet their dreams needs to be the other side of it.