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Sun's Project Darkstar Game Server Platform No More

sproketboy writes "Project Darkstar, an open source software platform from Sun labs that simplifies the development of horizontally scalable servers for online games, is being discontinued as of the Oracle acquisition. This project, mentioned a couple of years back on Slashdot, was a unique concept for building an application server specific to on-line gaming. Sadly they were so close at version 0.9.11 (which is still very stable). Hopefully the open source community can get involved and help continue work on this project."

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  1. As long as Elfstar is ok by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Mo, Marcie! You didn't have to do that!

  2. Sad by Gusano · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sadly I think this is the only real alternative for developing any mature MMOs under Java... so it's either the community taking the workload and continuing the project or it's back to C++ :-(

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    1. Re:Sad by the+linux+geek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Oracle has repeatedly stated that Solaris, along with SPARC, is going to have increased investment.

    2. Re:Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      EVE Online, which has probably done more in terms of scaling/balancing technology than any other commercial MMO, uses a *ton* of Python server-side. One world for all players, with the ability to handle massive battles. A kludge it is not.

    3. Re:Sad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oracle has repeatedly stated that Solaris, along with SPARC, is going to have increased investment.

      What would they replace Solaris with? Linux?

      Please.

      Linux isn't even 64-bit safe enough to allow single IO operations greater than 2 gigabytes:

      +/*
      + * rw_verify_area doesn't like huge counts. We limit
      + * them to something that fits in "int" so that others
      + * won't have to do range checks all the time.
      + */

  3. Is anyone I know using this? by BobMcD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is anyone I know using this?

  4. One of many... by fm6 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...blue sky projects that will disappear now that Sun is under rational management.

    1. Re:One of many... by Ardaen · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Define rational. Is money your primary or only measure? Only in the short term? The next quarter, maybe the next year?

      A project like this, if it took off, could be quite good for expanding the usage of the Java language. It might not be a success or a big success, but calling it a blue-sky project seems a bit unfair. Unless of course value is only defined by the next quarter.

  5. Re:Oops? by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps they ought to have developed an open source platform for the development of horizontally scalable *forums*.

  6. 9.11 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...never forget.

  7. Encouraged Java by Unoti · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A project like this, if it took off, could be quite good for expanding the usage of the Java language.

    You're right- it did or would encourage the use of Java. But I never quite did understand that strategy, though-- how Java use helps Sun. Is it simply that a cross-platform language like Java is strategic to Sun just because it makes it so that one vendor doesn't dominate the entire market, therefore also-rans and non-dominating manufacturers (like Sun) have a better change at making sales?

    Essentially, the Java strategy is or was all about leveling the playing field?

    1. Re:Encouraged Java by julesh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is it simply that a cross-platform language like Java is strategic to Sun just because it makes it so that one vendor doesn't dominate the entire market, therefore also-rans and non-dominating manufacturers (like Sun) have a better change at making sales?

      Essentially, the Java strategy is or was all about leveling the playing field?

      Essentially, yes. Java attracts developers away from Microsoft-only environments and enables them to easily develop applications that will run on Sun hardware, even if they're using Windows as their development environment.

      This is the same reason that IBM pours money into both Java and Linux development: both enable portability from commodity PCs to hardware platforms IBM sell with few or no changes to the application code.

  8. Save this write as a template by realinvalidname · · Score: 5, Funny
    blurb = "The Sun %s project, which we <a href=\"%s\">mentioned a few years ago</a> on Slashdot, is being <a href=\"%s\">shut down</a> in the wake of the Oracle acquisition.

    That should save the editors a little time over the next few weeks as they iterate over every minimally-viable, staff-of-three Sun mini-project that has been terminated by Oracle.

    1. Re:Save this write as a template by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 2, Funny

      Give it enough time and kdawson will dupe it.

  9. Wonderland is suffering a similar fate by Simon+Carr · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just did a write-up on Wonderland. Development resources are no longer being applied to the project. From what I'm reading the community is going to keep it going, but it's still disappointing to hear that something so forward thinking is being cut from the vine.

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    1. Re:Wonderland is suffering a similar fate by sproketboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well yeah - Wonderland runs on Darkstar so it looks like it's all going to be gone.

  10. Let's rewrite the headline by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Sun's Project Darkstar Game Server Platform No More"

    Hmm. That doesn't seem right. Let's move a word.

    "Project Darkstar Game Server Platform No More Sun's"

    There. Not grammatically great, but it gets the point across. It's an open source project. The corporate backer is no longer backing it. It's still an open source project, and can be developed by the community.

    That's a primary point of open source, isn't it?

    If most OSS projects can't survive without corporate sponsorship and guidance, then the OSS model is a failure and needs to be rexamined.

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