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OpenOffice 3.2 Released

harmonise writes "Version 3.2 of the OpenOffice.org office suite is now available. This marks the tenth anniversary year of the office suite, with over three hundred million downloads recorded in total. The new features include faster start up times; improved compatibility with open standard (ODF) and proprietary file formats; improvements to all components, particularly the Calc spreadsheet, with over a dozen new or enhanced features; and the Chart module (usable throughout OpenOffice.org) has had a usability makeover as well as offering new chart types."

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  1. Nothing That New or Innovative... by catd77 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Right on the heels of MS 2010 beta. Doesn't appear to be much new things, it's just faster. Still. Openoffice is the best office suite out there in my opinion.

    1. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by doti · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A minor (3.x) release is not meant to be innovative. That's for a major release (4.0).

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    2. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once I bought my father in law a really, really nice hammer. There wasn't made of titanium or anything like that; it didn't have any kind of electronic controls or clever mechanical gizmos to help you swing it straight. It wasn't innovative. It was just a really, really well made hammer.

      He was pleased with it, even though the hammer he already owned was in approximate terms very similar to the one I gave him. In precise terms it wasn't anywhere near as nice.

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    3. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Just faster"? It isn't just faster. It's so much faster that it's like a whole new program. Great job, guys. I wish we'd see this more often: The same program, just a lot better.

    4. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by tyrione · · Score: 5, Informative

      Right on the heels of MS 2010 beta. Doesn't appear to be much new things, it's just faster. Still. Openoffice is the best office suite out there in my opinion.

      Native OpenType Postcript fonts alone makes it finally worth exploring Writer.

    5. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by doti · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "not meant to be" != "never"

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    6. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 2, Informative

      YES. Mod parent up; those of us who purchased pro fonts recently have felt the pain.

    7. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by HiThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you're probably right ... about appearing to be a troll, but not actually being one. I think you're really expressing what you actually believe. I may believe you're being silly, but you obviously don't believe that.

      Personally, I *prefer* Open Office to any version of MSWord I've used since MSWord 5.2a for the Mac. Now that *was* a better word processor. It allowed you to embed markup in the text and hand edit it until it did what you want. (Word Perfect also had that extremely important feature.) It was missing a lot of bells and whistles that have been added since, but I rarely use most of those bells and whistles. When I want a spreadsheet, I want a spreadsheet, when I want a word processor, I want a word processor. But these are MY preferences.

      Note that you didn't tell us what your preferences were, or why you didn't like OpenOffice. This is a part of what makes your post appear a troll. Just about everything you said is a generality with no substance. Could be true, could be false. Without substance there's no way to tell.

      I believe that you are serious, but that *IS* giving you the benefit of the doubt. (You did mention speed, but I don't know what you're comparing it against on what system. So it's without substance. And besides, one of the announced benefits of this upgrade is that it's faster, so that *IS* one of the things that they're working on.)

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    8. Re:Nothing That New or Innovative... by pyrrhonist · · Score: 2, Funny

      But yes, a titanium-headed hammer would be stupid. Titanium also has poor surface hardness, so it would get dented really badly.

      Right, no one would make those.

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  2. External references by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First off, congrats on getting the release out the door. I do appreciate the project.

    That being said, in 3.0, supposedly there was support in Calc to external references (to values in other documents). In 3.1, it was supposedly fixed. It still didn't work.

    I'm curious to see if it finally works in 3.2. And for those who don't know, you should check out Novell's fork/non-standard builds over at go-oo.org. Many Linux distros use these builds automatically, but if you're on Windows, that is the version I'd grab. They have several nice improvements over the upstream version.

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  3. Re:improved compatibility with open standard by dwiget001 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OOXML, despite having "Open" in it's name and despite the rigged voting process in the ISO is *hardly* a standard for anything.

    Even Microsoft, whose baby it is, doesn't support it.

  4. Clippy by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm sorry, but I refuse to use any office suite that doesn't have animated characters telling me what to do.

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    1. Re:Clippy by Jeng · · Score: 2, Funny

      For some reason the first thought that went though my head was

      "What meme would work best as an animated character?"

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    2. Re:Clippy by natehoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Does CowboyNeal have an avatar?

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    3. Re:Clippy by msclrhd · · Score: 2, Funny

      It appears that you are having a nightmare. In this nightmare, would you like to...

      1. be stabbed to death by a serial killer.
      2. drown after seeing pennywise the clown (because we all float down here).
      3. be forced to sit through a never ending video stream of lolcats.
      4. live in a Being John Clippy world where everyone is clippy (clippy, clippy, clippy clippy, clippy).

    4. Re:Clippy by Duositex · · Score: 4, Funny

      An LOLcat?

      "I seez u r trying to makes lettrz. WordCat help u."

    5. Re:Clippy by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Does CowboyNeal have an avatar?

      Yes, he does. Unfortunately, you need a six-panel display to render the avatar due to size.

      Furthermore, the advice you're likely to get from the CowboyNeal office assistant may be somewhat suspect.

      It looks like you're trying to set a tabstop. Would you like some help with that?
      Options:
      Link to BBW pron
      Link to mature porn
      Link to hirsute porn
      Link to horseporn
      No thanks, I'm good.

      That's not the kind of office assistant most of us could use.

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    6. Re:Clippy by natehoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      In other words, about as relevant as Clippy, but far more interesting.

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    7. Re:Clippy by DrSkwid · · Score: 2, Funny

      Looks perfect to me, though the last entry really should be

      CowboyNeal Porn

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    8. Re:Clippy by sconeu · · Score: 2, Funny
      Natalie Portman.

      It looks like your composing a Slashdot post. Would you like some assistance?

      1. I'd like to see Natalie Portman, naked and petrified
      2. I'd like to pour hot grits down my pants
      3. In Soviet Russia...
      4. I, for one, welcome our new meme-assisting overlords
      5. CowboyNeal is my pilot
      6. I'd like to get in the First Post!
      7. No thank you. You must be new here.
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  5. Re:Self Update Broken by baka_toroi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Maybe they only pushed the update to the main website, not the self-update servers.

  6. Re:Hooray! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Have you filed bug reports regarding these problems, including example documents when possible?

  7. "over three hundred million downloads" by sznupi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not a very useful metric, considering how on the most popular desktop OS OpenOffice requires downloading of installation package to upgrade. Yes, OSes with package management and OOo included, together with using the same download for installations and/or upgrades on several machines, swing the usage upwards; but I doubt it's anywhere enough to compensate.

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  8. Just Faster??? I wish I was just Richer!!! by viraltus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Word processors cannot be improving in terms of features forever and, anyway, people only use a small percentage of those, so I think "just" faster is "just" right.

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    1. Re:Just Faster??? I wish I was just Richer!!! by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think I've used any new features for a word processor since WordPerfect 5.1. That had just about everything I needed. For 99.9999% of the population, OpenOffice is more than enough. I think that MS will have a hard time maintaining market share in the next 30 years on the desktop market. Software is just becoming too much of a commodity. Easily replaced by free alternatives. Obviously the change isn't going to happen overnight, but over the long term, there's no way that MS can keep on charging for upgrades to software when software with the same features can be had for free.

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    2. Re:Just Faster??? I wish I was just Richer!!! by maxume · · Score: 4, Informative

      In my vanilla install of OpenOffice 3.1, if I select several columns and then right click on one of the selected headers, "Insert Columns" (with an 's') is one of the options on the context menu.

      This is the *first* thing I tried after I decided to see if you were missing something obvious.

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  9. Re:will it still hijack my mac by xZgf6xHx2uhoAj9D · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yup, it's changed in Finder. Find a document, either right-click or go to the File menu, select Get Info, change the application in "Open with" and then select "Change All".

  10. Bibtxt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Bibtxt is the biggest item to get OpenOffice working.

    If I can import and export Bibtxt files Bibliography files and use Templates for writing styles.

    That is I can write in APA then tell OpenOffice to reformat for IEEE. Though it can be done with Tex this is the killer feature people would like in Academia. With enough people using it for this feature then many people would ask for it in their business.
     

    1. Re:Bibtxt by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe you should create a feature request for it and get some of you friends in Academia to vote for it.

      Hint: I did a search for Bibtxt in Issues and the whole OO site and found no mention of this file format.

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    2. Re:Bibtxt by steveg · · Score: 2, Informative

      Have you looked at Zotero? It may do what you want -- I think it does import and export Bibtex, but if what you want to do is manage citations and bibliographies, it may do what you need without any importing or exporting. You can insert citations into your doc and then change your mind about the formatting en masse. Ditto the bibliography.

      This requires both the Zotero Firefox plugin and the Zotero OpenOffice plugin. Dunno if it is compatible with 3.2.

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  11. Re:improved compatibility with open standard by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So the question is: Does OpenOffice support
      -the bought and approved ISO standard OOXML
    Or
      -The OOXML that MS' own Office programs create?

    My guess is the latter since nothing supports the first.

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  12. Confession time by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Although I hated Clippy with a great passion, I liked the professor office helper. If Microsoft had chosen the professor, I don't think they would have gotten the vitriol they did. Clippy was a smug jackass. Not a helpful, humble character like the professor. He looked like Einstein, so he seemed to be smart, but he was also old which made him seem like a kind grandparent. I'm slightly ashamed to admit that he did teach me some things about word, I didn't already know.

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    1. Re:Confession time by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nobody is as bad as the Windows XP Search dog. Why would I want a dog helping me find files. This whole idea of little characters popping up to help me is kind of demeaning, but having a dog help me is just terrible. I think they should really try to have a more professional image. There should be no cartoon characters popping up, especially on the XP Professional version. If it was Windows XP Kids edition I could understand, but I think it just makes the product look like a joke.

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    2. Re:Confession time by smisle · · Score: 3, Funny

      I had a funny moment yesterday - while teaching an 86 year old lady how to use a computer, she accidentally clicked on the search icon in windows explorer. The little search-pup appeared, and she looked at it quizzically ... When I showed her how to close the search panel, she said:

      "oh, thank you. Good riddance."

      Microsoft (and all the other OS companies) really need to determine their target demographic. It seems like everyone is shifting toward designing for the computer illiterate - removing "confusing" features, and replacing all the text with pictures.

      I've been teaching Word processing to a whole slew of new computer users - and there is a certain sector who always push the new file icon rather than the file menu, when I tell them to click the file menu. These are the people who inspired the "office bubble" rather than a real menu.

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    3. Re:Confession time by gbjbaanb · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm slightly ashamed to admit that he did teach me some things about word, I didn't already know.

      Don't be ashamed - there's so much bloat in Office that there's TONS of stuff you still don't know is in there.

  13. Re:ok? by natehoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    OO's startup times in Windows XP used to bug the crap out of me. Doubleclick on a spreadsheet, and it might be a minute or so, sometimes more, before you were off to the races. This was on a decent Athlon64 2 GHz with 1GB RAM, not exactly a slouch of a machine.

    Then I tried it on my old Athlon 1.3Ghz with 384MB RAM in Linux Mint, and it started in about 10 seconds.

    On my new beast (Athlon II 3.0GHz, 4GB RAM, Linux Mint) OpenOffice starts in just a few seconds.

    I was utterly astonished at the speed difference of OO between Windows and Linux, and it makes perfect sense to me why Windows users don't like it as much - it's a dog. I hope they've improved its Windows performance in 3.2, for the sake of those using it on Windows.

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  14. Re:bigger tables anyone? by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Informative

    Still only 256 columns per sheet? I frequently need a lot more than that.

    1024, actually, since version 3.0.

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  15. Re:Unable to install by jridley · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Did you still have the installation files on your hard drive that the 3.0.0 install dropped on your desktop? I removed mine.
    I actually went out and found a copy of 3.0.0 on a shareware site, and put the files there. 3.0.0 still refuses to uninstall. 3.2.0 says 3.0.0 has to be uninstalled first. The 3.0.0 installer refuses to uninstall 3.0.0 - it says 3.0.0 is not installed, even though I can go to the start menu and start up OO apps, and they are version 3.0.0.

    I think there are some holes in their installation process. I usually don't have trouble either, but when I do, they're usually a huge pain in the butt to fix. That's a pretty typical statement for Windows, actually.

  16. Re:Mind Boggling That The UI Widgets Suck So Much by sarhjinian · · Score: 2, Insightful

    IBM's Lotus Symphony is based on the same code and has had that effort put into the UI. It's based on much older code, though, and suffers for it.

    I would agree that OOo does tend to look a bit dated and lacking in the polish you see in MSO2003.

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  17. Re:Hooray! by Tapewolf · · Score: 3, Informative
    Are you using the Ubuntu bundled version of 3.1, by any chance? Canonical have managed to destroy it somehow. What you're describing is a known issue in the Ubuntu version.

    It did two disagreeable things to me - firstly, attempting to stretch or move an image would make it distort the image so you couldn't see what it was doing, and secondly, it was unable to save documents correctly.
    I was using it to make a 4-page document for a CD booklet with the lyrics etc in a bunch of frames. When the document was reloaded, it had reduced to 3 pages and splattered the frames everywhere, seemingly at random.

    The primary solution to these problems at the moment seems to be uninstalling the broken Canonical version and installing the official OOo binaries instead.

  18. You're Missing the Point About Dogs by dreamchaser · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Search Dog is a retriever!

    1. Re:You're Missing the Point About Dogs by socceroos · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...with dementia.

  19. PHP support? by Alworx · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mmm... no... not this time... :-(

    Am I the only one who is waiting for some kind of DOM to create docs via PHP? Possibly with updated fresh modules?

  20. Re:Hooray! by DrSkwid · · Score: 4, Informative

    We've been using OO for about 5 years, I've never had a single person in our office ever have a problem with anything I could call a bug.

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  21. Re:bigger tables anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    640 columns should be enough for anyone

  22. Re:Unable to install by Rockoon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The fact that you have had this problem more than once tells me that you are a willy-nilly file deleter, and it is likely that you will have the same sort of problems with other operating systems if you continue to be a willy-nilly file deleter.

    I dont know why it dropped files essential to uninstallation on your desktop, and its hard to believe that the installer was coded specifically to do that. Did you tell it to install directly to your desktop? If so, don't do that. Really.

    Just say'n.

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  23. bibtex by maccallr · · Score: 2, Informative

    think he means bibtex (a LaTeX bibliography tool/format)

  24. Fixes my "calc" bug from 3.1.1 by coats · · Score: 4, Informative
    Bug 108855: certain names in spreadsheet-to-spreadsheet links were forced to lower-case during "save."

    Works fine with 3.2.0 -- the bug is gone.

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  25. FIXED:External references by coats · · Score: 4, Informative
    External refs worked for me in Mandriva's 3.0.1.

    Did not work for me in any of the 3.1.1's (Mandriva or direct download, 32- or 64-bit). Had to revert to Mandriva's 3.0.1.

    Just checked, and works for me in 32-bit direct download of 3.2.0.

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  26. Re:Hooray! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nonsense. Even with proprietary software developers can only fix bugs that they know about. If you don't report a bug, then you have no business complaining that it isn't fixed. I've fixed bugs in code that have been there for years, but not fixed because they don't impact the developers' use of the system. When someone encounters them and provides a test case, I can fix them. When I never see them, I can't. Even if the developers are paid, they're not omniscient.

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  27. Re:Is it worth it? by okooolo · · Score: 2, Informative

    only you can answer that question. Nice thing about open source is that you can download it, try it and decide for yourself. for the record I'm not a big fan of OO..

  28. Re:Unable to install by Spad · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's the default location; specifically "C:\Users\\Desktop\OpenOffice.org 3.2 (en-US) Installation Files\" (Win 7) - though I've never had any problems upgrading after deleting the install files because Windows should cache any required MSI files in C:\Windows\Installer\.

    Though I still don't understand why MSI-installed apps need the original MSI to uninstall or change them - I thought Microsoft had abandoned that stupid behaviour when they stopped requiring you to have the Office install CD to uninstall Office 97. I've seen a few machines where a deleted or corrupt .NET MSI cache has made it impossible to upgrade, repair or remove said framework(s).

  29. Re:Hooray! by Toonol · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've written several 100+ page, extensively formatted documents, and only found one bug. It's minor, and I can work around it, but it's easily replicable.

    If I create a paragraph style with a border, and change the line spacing from default, the bottom border is often rendered THROUGH the last line of text when the paragraph crosses between two pages (or two columns). If I make an edit in the paragraph, it will fix itself... but be incorrect again the next time it's loaded.

    I suppose I should file a bug report, eh?

    I moved to Open Office from Word because the document became an unmaintainable mess in word. Styles broke, page numbers broke... I simply couldn't have done it properly.

  30. Go-oo by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 2, Informative

    OO's startup times in Windows XP used to bug the crap out of me. Doubleclick on a spreadsheet, and it might be a minute or so, sometimes more, before you were off to the races. This was on a decent Athlon64 2 GHz with 1GB RAM, not exactly a slouch of a machine.

    Then I tried it on my old Athlon 1.3Ghz with 384MB RAM in Linux Mint, and it started in about 10 seconds.

    On my new beast (Athlon II 3.0GHz, 4GB RAM, Linux Mint) OpenOffice starts in just a few seconds.

    I was utterly astonished at the speed difference of OO between Windows and Linux, and it makes perfect sense to me why Windows users don't like it as much - it's a dog. I hope they've improved its Windows performance in 3.2, for the sake of those using it on Windows.

    That's because many Linux distros use the much speedier Go-OO fork. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go-oo

    "The OpenOffice.org included with many popular Linux distributions such as Debian, Mandriva, openSUSE, Gentoo[5] and Ubuntu[6] uses some of Go-oo patches."

  31. Re:Is it worth it? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 3, Funny

    I "don't" really have anything "to reply to" in your post, but I just wanted to make sure somebody on "Slashdot" is mocking your insane use of quote "marks." "Consider" this a "public service."

  32. Standard compliance by clemenstimpler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The decisive advantage of open formats should be that you can work around any limitations posed by an application. Moreover, every OO-user can send you a pdf preserving all essential properties of the document. I'm curious why none of these options seems to help you. And, by the way, what is an "epub-company"? A company publishing ebooks in epub format, or rather a company pursuing electronic publishing?