Slashdot Mirror


Ex-Pirate Bay Admin Launches Micropayment Service

spyrochaete writes "Peter Sunde, formerly 'brokep' of The Pirate Bay, recently launched a beta version of Flattr — a micropayment service enabling internet users to tender cash payments to any participating content publisher. Its model enables users to divvy monthly subscription fees as donations awarded to the musicians, bloggers, photographers, or other publisher of their choice. Sunde tells the BBC, 'We want to encourage people to share money as well as content,' and asserts, 'people love things and they want to pay.'"

12 of 197 comments (clear)

  1. Re:I am not so sure about this. by snaggen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The good thing about this arrangement is that it will make it easier to donate money. It doesn't matter how many Flattr I click I still have the same cost, I do not have to keep track just to know I have the money on my account. I also don't have to take so many decisions, like how much to I think this song/game/application/book is worth or do I really going to enjoy it so it is worth anything at all, I just click.
    So there are clear advantages of this arrangement. And I do not see it as a way to charge for a product, but as an alternative to the PayPal donate button.

  2. Re:I'm with stupid by xous · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hi,

    As far as I know Sunde has never been accused of pirating anything. ThePiratebay was and still is legal in Sweden.

    Just because you can use their service to illegal distribute content does not make the creator a pirate. This would be the equivalent of calling the city a 'drunk driver' because it builds the streets that can be used to facilitate drunk driving.

  3. Re:I'd like to see this connected to ThePirateBay by BiggerIsBetter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This.

    If an actual media producer decided to distribute via BT, they could even get paid for it. Combine it with a market system where the punters decide what to (micro)pay for their torrent, and some extensions to BT software (perhaps similar to the rate selector, you have a $ selector), and you've got a brilliant means of distributed media distribution that can completely bypass big media.

    --
    Forget thrust, drag, lift and weight. Airplanes fly because of money.
  4. This might explain why he was working with AES: by rigolo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This might explain why he was working with AES:

    http://twitter.com/brokep/status/7915813818
    "@niczar I clocked 12.8Gbps using AES 128 ECB on a dual quad 2.26ghz xeon with HT (= 16 cores). Not cost efficient."

    http://twitter.com/brokep/status/7905751784
    Is there a fast solution with a graphics card to do #AES within #Linux? I need 10Gbps or so realtime.

  5. Re:lol - never would I trust them by Jalfro · · Score: 5, Funny

    yes, much safer to stick to a respectable banker... er wait...

  6. Beautiful by logixoul · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is so beautiful. It might be the first web service I truly, really like. It's in the right place at the right time. People, me included, love clicking "upvote" buttons all day long, because they like to show appreciation and it gives them a feeling of power. How much more meaningful this becomes when there's money attached! It will feel great to "flatter" people with some of your money, while never bothering to keep track of "how much you spend" (stressful, anyone will tell you), as it's a constant that you've decided you want to give out to the world for a month.

    I don't know about you guys, but this fits my mental model of donations better than anything before. I think it'll catch on, because both providers and consumers will love it. We will move to a web with less crap. Maybe even reverse Sturgeon's law.

  7. Excellent idea, if.... by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 5, Interesting
    it gets enough uptake.

    Pity that it's unlikely that anyone contracted to the major content distributors will be taking it up - I suspect the studios and publishers would bang that on the head. They (sic) like total control over the money flow.

    Earlier this year when "well known musicians" came out to damn piracy - and it was covered by bbc, abc (Oz) and others I posted the suggestion (on those sites) that artists create a blog with a paypal account, so that people who download music and movies illegally (like me) could directly send the artists money. The posts were immediately pulled.

    I (for one) welcome a New World Publishing Order - where the consumer determines the rewards for the artist/author/whatever, instead of the existing model where the studios/publishers tell the artist/author and the consumer "what market wants".

    Just saying...

  8. Re:I'm with stupid by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Informative

    Under Swedish law, the verdict means absolutely nothing while they're going through the appeals process. In other words, they're still "innocent until proven guilty". Judging by the obvious bias of the judge in the initial case, I'd say they have a pretty good chance to get a better verdict the second time around.

  9. Re:Cut out the middleman by fenix849 · · Score: 5, Funny

    *Clears throat*

    http://xkcd.com/610/

    That is all.

  10. Re:I'm with stupid by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 5, Funny
    Wrong. Wrong, And Wrong!

    But they were the ones who put the word pirate in the name of their site.

    Originally PirateBay published economic trends. They used the price of Four'n'Twenties as a cost of living indicator.

    Hence the name - "Pi Rate" which translates into English as "cost of a meat pie".

    the city would be called Boozer City.

    Which I think does exist somewhere in Australia

    There is no city in this fine and fair land called "Boozer City". You fool! (perhaps you've just come back from BongBong - hopefully Mount Camel was not on the way)

    All the towns are called "Boozer Town". The cities, going clockwise from the bottom-south, are Shooter City, Underbelly City, City of Colour and Movement, PartyCrash City, Big Stubby City, Bundaberg City, Ice City, and (my city) Tired And Emotional Politician City.

    Don't listen to the talking Polar Bear on the bottle - he studied at the school of Tallho Rolling paper trivia.

    Hmm, and I am currently downloading some TV episodes at the moment

    Wrong again! You are watching the dishwasher (and that is a mouse in your hand).

  11. Re:Good idea by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    there is a very good reason economics is called the dismal science.

    Another reason is the people who decide to become economists.

    Just look at what passes for rockstar economists, like Levitt and Dubner who wrote the smash hits "Freakonomics" and "Superfreakonomics". Both dismal intellects who couldn't pass a 300 level class in any other science.

    Economics is even "softer" than psychology, and it's even more rife with conclusions that are little more than flabby apologetics for their own emotional reactions to other people.

    I think of how much better off our world might be today if Milton Friedman had just gone to a goddamn psychiatrist.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  12. Re:I'm with stupid by duguk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're genuinely comparing someone who offered free movies and music via his website and was smacked down for it to NELSON FUCKING MANDELA and you're not high, you need to sort your fucking priorities out.

    You do know Nelson Mandela blew up trains? He was a terrorist.

    Personally, I'll stay with the copyright infringers.