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Father of the Frisbee Dies At 90

theodp writes "Walter Fredrick Morrison, whose post-World War II invention of a 'flying' plastic disc became the American recreational icon known as the Frisbee, has died at age 90 of age-related causes (great obit pic). Wham-O Inc. has sold more than 200 million Frisbees since Morrison sold the company the rights to what he called the Pluto Platter in 1957. The roots of today's aerodynamic Frisbees go back to 1937, when Morrison and his future wife tossed a large popcorn can lid back and forth for fun during a Thanksgiving party."

89 comments

  1. frisbeetarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    His soul has gone up on the roof and gotten stuck there.

    1. Re:frisbeetarianism by ScrewMaster · · Score: 2, Funny

      His soul has gone up on the roof and gotten stuck there.

      And I'm sure he's spinning in his grave over that remark.

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    2. Re:frisbeetarianism by rickshaf · · Score: 1

      OK. This is a serious breach of decorum. It's Frisbeeterianism, with a capital "F"....

    3. Re:frisbeetarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does that mean that tossing each other's souls around is encouraged, or is it rather discouraged by frisbeetarianist doctrine? On the other hand it could lead to your soul getting stuck on the roof, on the other hand it could be the ultimate expression of one's frisbee nature. What does the frisbee pope say?

    4. Re:frisbeetarianism by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      After being mauled by the dog.

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  2. Farewell by Dyinobal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Farewell Sir, My dog thanks you.

    1. Re:Farewell by derGoldstein · · Score: 2, Informative

      What dog? It's, you know, for kids...

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    2. Re:Farewell by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      "I had the boys down at R&D
      throw together this prototype..."

  3. Not accurate by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

    I seem to recall watching a documentary that showed the frisbee being invented some time back in 1885 or 1886.

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    1. Re:Not accurate by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 0

      I seem to recall firsbee's being invented before the 5th century BC...
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discus

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    2. Re:Not accurate by MichaelSmith · · Score: 0

      And the boomerang which was used in Australia before the Greeks existed.

    3. Re:Not accurate by lazybeam · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mean in September 1885, by a Mr Martin McFly (pseudonym Clint Eastwood)? In that case there's only 5 more years until I get my hoverboard!

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    4. Re:Not accurate by brunokummel · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall watching a documentary that showed the frisbee being invented some time back in 1885 or 1886.

      ..Just look at his picture ..these are sure 1930's futuristic clothes! =D

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    5. Re:Not accurate by snowraver1 · · Score: 1

      Well, if we're talking about things we throw, I believe my spear trumps your boomerang.

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    6. Re:Not accurate by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, if we're talking about things we throw, I believe my spear trumps your boomerang.

      But my boomerang comes back, and it flies a lot better then a discus or a spear. More like a Frisbee in fact.

    7. Re:Not accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sure, discus is older, but last person I know who played catch with a discus ended up with about 12 stitches in his head.

      You can argue that frisbee is an evolution of the discus, and I would agree with you, but it is certainly a new and separate item.

    8. Re:Not accurate by Graff · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I seem to recall watching a documentary that showed the frisbee being invented some time back in 1885 or 1886.

      The Frisbie was originally the pie plate used by the Frisbie Pie Company to bake and sell its pies in. Yale students were throwing them around in games since the late 1800's, well before Fred Morrison came up with his "Pluto Platter". Wham-O decided to re-name the Pluto Platter to the Frisbie because that's what it was already widely called, then they had to re-name it again to "Frisbee" in order to avoid trademark infringement.

    9. Re:Not accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh! Is that a Frisbee? No! it's the joke!

      He's talking about Back to the Future Part III.

    10. Re:Not accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Back to the Future III is not a documentary.

    11. Re:Not accurate by pizzach · · Score: 1

      I also believe the documentary kept stating 88MPH was paramount for crossing the ravine of popularity.

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    12. Re:Not accurate by farrellj · · Score: 1

      Actually, the flying disk goes way back to before the 16th century...it is called a Chakram, and we have seen it recently in popular culture as Xena's weapon of choice, that flying disk of hers is a real, ancient and deadly weapon. The Sikhs of India used it to great effect against their enemies, it being deadly at great distances, as well as very accurate. This page has a good write up of the objects: http://www.flight-toys.com/rings/chackrum.html

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    13. Re:Not accurate by Graff · · Score: 1

      Actually, the flying disk goes way back to before the 16th century...it is called a Chakram

      There are many examples throughout history of flat, circular objects that were thrown for various reasons. Someone else talked about the discus which has been around since at least 500 BC (and probably much earlier too). There's also a lot of evidence of people throwing around cookie tin lids and other improvised pieces of sports equipment.

      The point is that the modern Frisbee started out as the pie tin for the Frisbie Pie Company and it was not invented by Fred Morrison. His innovation was making a flying disc out of plastic, with a more aerodynamic profile, and intended directly for sporting use. He didn't invent the flying disc, he refined it.

    14. Re:Not accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could play catch with a chakram instead of a discus, as it is much easier to throw and has better range. Yet you'd have to be careful enough to catch with the inside edge since you might lose some fingers otherwise. (Think of it as a bronze-age version of an Aerobie which usually has a razor sharp edge on the outside edge vs. the blunt Frisbee-golf like puck of the discus.)

    15. Re:Not accurate by TheLink · · Score: 1

      If your spear does not fly back at you, it is considered a feature, not a flaw.

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    16. Re:Not accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's true. I read it on wikipedia.

  4. Back to the Future? by gblackwo · · Score: 1

    Didn't that teach us frisbees were pie pans?

    1. Re:Back to the Future? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      I have heard that elsewhere too, like on the history channel for one. The pie pans said Frisbee on them, according to that version of the story.

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    2. Re:Back to the Future? by maxume · · Score: 3, Funny

      Was it before, after or between shows about aliens?

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    3. Re:Back to the Future? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Informative

      The first Frisbies were pie pans from the Frisbie Pie Company of Bridgeport Conn, founded in 1871 by William Russell Frisbie. Yale students were using the term Frisbie for flying discs 50 years before the invention of the Pluto Platter.

      When Wham-O bought the rights to the plastic version that Morrison invented one of their executives, Rich Knerr liked the marketability of the name and changed it to Frisbee.

      Frisbie pies are still manufactured by Table Talk Inc.

      Knerr was also responsible for the Hula Hoop which to this day is recognized as the benchmark American fad toy.

    4. Re:Back to the Future? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      wrong channel.

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    5. Re:Back to the Future? by maxume · · Score: 2, Informative
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    6. Re:Back to the Future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And here I was, thinking the hula hoop was invented by Norville Barnes! :-)

    7. Re:Back to the Future? by 0xC2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It was the Frisbie Pie company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frisbie_Pie_Company. The original name was the "Pluto Platter", but kids called them "Frisbies" because of the famous pies. So they changed the spelling to "Frisbee".

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    8. Re:Back to the Future? by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Knerr was also responsible for the Hula Hoop"

      You know. For kids!

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    9. Re:Back to the Future? by zippthorne · · Score: 2, Informative

      Is it too much to ask for one science/learning channel that doesn't load up on psychics, ghosts, aliens, cryptozoology, and home-decorating shows?

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  5. news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Seriously, has Slashdot jumped the shark? This definitely would not have been posted here ten years ago.

  6. Will his ashes be placed in a Dog's Mouth? by viraltus · · Score: 1

    I mean... it's kinda appropriate. isn't?

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  7. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's worse, this was on reddit and Digg days ago. I don't mean yesterday, either. It was on there three or four days ago, right after he died.

  8. Pluto Platter by pwnies · · Score: 1

    My father still has one of the original Pluto Platters (the first commercially produced flying disc) that he made. Sad to see him go, the thing still flies great today (though we dont throw it much as the plastic has grown brittle).

  9. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah but ten years ago we were younger and not as sentimental.

  10. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's because ten years ago, there was no Live FreeBSD distro that would use a name coined by a man in a nerdy spacesuit.

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  11. Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...did he'll ever come back?

    (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

    1. Re:Obligatory... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, he'll did not ever come back.

      (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

  12. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course not. Ten years ago he was still alive.
    ACs these days...

  13. He's also the guy that invented the hula-hoop. by BrokenSegue · · Score: 1

    They made a movie about him http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110074/

    1. Re:He's also the guy that invented the hula-hoop. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FALSE

  14. Ultimate Frisbee by cntThnkofAname · · Score: 1

    College students every mourn.

  15. Oh I get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's why my frisbee stopped working.

  16. "invention" isn't the right word by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    He didn't invent anything, he's just the one who had the idea of selling "popcorn can lids" as "flying disks" and convinced a toy company it was a good idea?

    1. Re:"invention" isn't the right word by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1, Insightful

      He didn't invent anything, he's just the one who had the idea of selling "popcorn can lids" as "flying disks" and convinced a toy company it was a good idea?

      And you've sold several hundred million units of what, exactly?

    2. Re:"invention" isn't the right word by jaafonso · · Score: 1

      Ad hominem is insightful?

  17. Frisbees are nice and all but... by operator_error · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Aerobies are waaay more fun. To take mine away, you'll have to pry it from my cold, dead, ...oh wait.

    http://www.aerobie.com/Products/Sprint.htm

    "The farthest object thrown by man"

    1. Re:Frisbees are nice and all but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agree - I like the aerobie a lot better too. I still have both a small and large model of aerobie and when I can convince the kids to play, it is lots of fun to go running after that thing!

    2. Re:Frisbees are nice and all but... by martinX · · Score: 1

      Looks like fun - I'll keep an eye out for them in my country. Must say, though, pretty blaaahhh website. Amongst other things, two movies: a very short animated gif and a 3 minute WMV of people just chucking the thing with generic 'exciting' music.

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    3. Re:Frisbees are nice and all but... by rickshaf · · Score: 1

      Everything has its place, and the Aerobie's place needs to be really BIG, because they fly faaaaaaar! Alan Adler, the (extremely clever) inventor of the Aerobie flying ring, recognized this when he came out with his own line of flying disks. True to form, they fly really, really well!

    4. Re:Frisbees are nice and all but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had one of those as a kid when they first came out, I threw it once and it traveled across our half-acre yard and landed deep in some fenced off area never to be seen again. :(

    5. Re:Frisbees are nice and all but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember - Aerobies are not buoyant. I learned the hard way.

  18. What about the by Squiffy · · Score: 1

    What about the mom? Giving birth to a frisbee must have hurt.

  19. what's with the quotes? by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Informative

    I invention of a 'flying' plastic disc

    Why the quotes? A disc generates real aerodynamic lift; anyone who plays Ultimate can tell you that. Throw right-handed and drop the outside edge, and it will curve to the right. Raise it and aim a bit out and up, and you can throw an "outside in" (aim up and out because, like with a plane, you have to compensate for lift being generated at an angle, which means less lift straight-up. You also have slip.) Tilt the disc upwards but throw it downwards, and it'll appear to "bounce."

    Also: don't call a "disc" a Frisbee around an Ultimate player. Why? Wham-O saw a bunch of people playing this game called Ultimate, freaked out that someone was using their product for a game. They then tried to a)control it and then when that failed, b)made their own game to try and drown it out. It was a pretty despicable and petty move. Now they mostly spend their time chasing down anyone who uses the word "frisbee". Had they simply been content to sell discs, they'd be selling them by the boatload to Ultimate players. Instead, they got greedy and it backfired on 'em.

    Also, Ultrastar's discs (considered the standard) are much more easier on the hand for most, and tend to fly better.

    1. Re:what's with the quotes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's amazing how much better an Ultrastar or similar 175g disc flies compared to the actual frisbee brand discs. I purchased a "real frisbee" (frisbee brand) from a train and hobby shop, and ended up donating it to my girlfriends dog. The lip is far too pronounced, the weight makes even a decent flick wobble, and the edges get eaten away when it lands on pavement or cement, quickly turning them into those weaponized discs previously mentioned.

      Accept no substitute, 175g and non-frisbee brand. The irony.

    2. Re:what's with the quotes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, Ultrastar's discs (considered the standard) are much more easier on the hand for most, and tend to fly better.

      Maybe it's different in your neck of the woods, but Discraft is by and large the standard last time I checked, and in my experience they blow Ultrastars out of the water

    3. Re:what's with the quotes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be confused ... the Ultrastar is Discraft's name for their 175g ultimate disc.

    4. Re:what's with the quotes? by Bruinwar · · Score: 1

      Ultrastar is Discraft's 175g, correct? http://www.discraft.com/ultprod.html Personally I prefer the Sky-Styler (160g) but then I don't play Ultimate. I always correct people when they call one of my Discraft disks a frisbee, it is a sports disk! Way better than Wham-o's frisbee. Made in the U.S. also!

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    5. Re:what's with the quotes? by rickshaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Uh, actually, no airfoil, either fixed or rotary, generates lift. For example, the wing of an airplane sitting on the ground generates no lift unless air is flowing over it. A frisbee sitting on the ground is just the same. Only when the person flying it imparts a force to it does it "fly". Another way of looking at this is to hold a frisbee at shoulder height in a horizontal position and then drop it. It will float in a semi-stable position down to the ground, because it has a large cross-sectional area WRT its mass. Do the same thing, but give it a bit of spin, and it will float down very smoothly. It's behavior is no different from a parachute, with the exceptions that parachutes aren't designed to spin, and you don't strap it on!

  20. Pun warning. by mr_lizard13 · · Score: 1

    His invention went far.

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  21. I miss your innovation, dude. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I remember how much fun I had throwing a Frisbee...at people and hurting their hands because I threw it so hard (curve? what curve? mine cut through the wind and glided straight... ;)

    Still, even though your idea will live on, you'll be missed. You could have created many more interesting things...

    Oh, and for those who think about the discus and such being invented before the Frisbee (or Pluto Platter or whatever you wish to call it), keep in mind that the discus only flew in one direction without curving at all. Compare that with the modern Frisbee, which allows for a curve that creates the fun challenge of getting back to a person perfectly. If you really want me to get geeky, I'll note that in order to send it to a person with wind interference, you'd need to approximate the speed of the wind and the direction to determine the right release height, the correct angle of release and the proper amount of release strength. It gets even more complicated when you add the snap of some people's wrists. By the way, sports fans, that disproves the idea that "it's all in the wrist" when it comes to badminton and other games where that practice is preached. After all, you still need to make contact with a shuttlecock for it to even do the proper thing and go over the net, right? That involves your feet and arms, not just your wrist. ;)

  22. very sad. by dissolved · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't want to discus this.

    1. Re:very sad. by grcumb · · Score: 1

      I don't want to discus this.

      Yeah, the poor guy must be spinning in his grave.

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    2. Re:very sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's not even in it yet, you insensitive clod!

  23. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah but ten years ago we were younger and not as sentimental.

    I'd think age has a detrimal effect on the sentiments of a person, as many emotions aren't new and people tend to be more experienced in life and accepting of certain inevatibilities or view of reality which is more consolodated and less overwhelming to a newling in this world.

    Also hormonal decline might make the emotional peaks less intense and smooth them out.

    Ergo, his sentiments about the decline has taken an extreme in this form for this outlet of this senior of slashdot, and hence, his sentiments (as his general field of sentiments is less jagged but more wavy) we should take this peak of sentimental display seriously as it indicates a significant emotion which jumps way out of the average frustrations of an emotional tuned down individual hence attentionworthy.

    In the same line of thought, the sentiments of a junior, which emotional landscape is still very jagged and with extremes, shouldn't be considered too attentioworthy.

  24. Re:Aerobies are nice and all but... by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

    Boomerangs have delighted children for millenia.

  25. sad... have a pluto platter. by dchamp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That's sad.

    I have a Wham-O Pluto Platter I found in the attic of my Grandpa's house - it's not the original Bakelite Morrison Pluto Platter, but the plastic version, looks very similar. Mine says "WHAM-O" on the top, but the word "Frisbee" is not on it, from what I can tell mine was made in 1957.

  26. "age related causes" = ignorance and complaency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ageing kills more than all other causes combined, yet is a curable disease. The Fable of the Dragon-Tyrant

  27. Re:Aerobies are nice and all but... by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    The "boomerang" aerobie is triangular. You can get a curve out of the ring-shaped ones, but it's not quite the same. You'd have to be incredibly skilled to get it to come back to you.

    Also, the aerobie orbiter is much easier to throw than a real boomerang.

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  28. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by nmb3000 · · Score: 4, Funny

    This definitely would not have been posted here ten years ago.

    Of course not. Ten years ago it would have been "Father of the Frisbee Dies At 80".

    What bothers me more is that, from what I can tell, Netcraft hasn't confirmed this yet. Are we sure this isn't another hoax?

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  29. Re:Aerobies are nice and all but... by Denjiro · · Score: 1

    The Orbiter also flies absurd distances. I bought one at an American Eagle outlet of all places back around '90 or so. Tried it out in the parking lot immediately. Thought I'd lost it on the first throw, but it kept going in a large circle until it started coming back. It landed nowhere near close enough to catch it but it was only about 30 feet from start. The circle path if flew in was probably in the 200 to 300 foot in diameter range.

  30. Re:Aerobies are nice and all but... by martinX · · Score: 2, Informative

    Boomerangs have delighted children, rendered roos unconscious and fed families for millenia :-)

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  31. Take a look at this sweet baby. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You know. For kids!

  32. A Little More About Fred Morrison by rickshaf · · Score: 1

    I never had the pleasure of knowing Mr. Morrison, but I played various frisbee-disk games for a lotta years, and even played flying-disk golf at the pro level for a while. But I had a real job, so left the ultra-serious play to other, better players. I heard various stories about Fred over the years. All seemed to indicate that he was friendly, very straightforward man. I was told once that he had bought a hardware store in the early 1960s in Sierra Madre, CA. Folks asked him why he was going to his hardware store every day if he was making so much money in royalties from frisbee sales. "Well, I like owning my own hardware store!", he replied. I really can't prove this story to be true, but if it's not, it oughta be! Thanks for the revolutions, Fred! Adieu.....

  33. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by Lissajous · · Score: 1

    This definitely would not have been posted here ten years ago.

    Of course not. Ten years ago it would have been "Father of the Frisbee Dies At 80".

    Actually, wouldn't it have been "Father of Frisbee celebrates 80th birthday with loving family" ?

  34. I hope they celebrate me when I die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am the inventor of the death frisbee, a coffee can lid with exacto blades stuck through it.

  35. Re:news for neurotypicals, stuff that doesn't matt by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 1

    Seriously, has Slashdot jumped the shark? This definitely would not have been posted here ten years ago.

    That's because if it was reported 10 years ago, Morrison would have written in to say "reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."

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  36. Re:Aerobies are nice and all but... by HeadlessNotAHorseman · · Score: 1

    Boomerangs have delighted children, rendered roos unconscious and fed families for millenia :-)

    For generations, when my family has fallen on hard times, we have had to resort to eating boomerangs to survive. What they lack in flavour they make up for in fibre.

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  37. no shit, sherlock? by SuperBanana · · Score: 1

    Uh, actually, no airfoil, either fixed or rotary, generates lift.

    Uh, whut? "The shape of the disc, an airfoil in cross-section, allows it to fly by generating lift as it moves through the air while rotating." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_disc ).

    If you're trying to say "it doesn't generate lift unless it is moving"...well, uh, no shit, sherlock?