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Switzerland Pursues Violent Games Ban

BanjoTed writes "We hear lots about the issues facing violent games in Australia, but the anti-games bandwagon is gathering pace closer to home — in Switzerland, to be precise. The Swiss government is gearing up to consider a total ban on mature games in the country."

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  1. Slipperly slope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If as an adult you let the government treat you like a child, remember what happened to you as a child when you "said something mommy and daddy didn't like".

    1. Re:Slipperly slope by HungryHobo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Great idea.
      If it's a crime it can't be the subject of a video game.

      Any super hero game is out since it encourages vigilante behaviour which is a serious crime.

      Uplink should be banned because it has the player commit serious crimes like breaking into computer systems without their owners consent.

      Commander keen is out since obviously he flew without a pilots liscence while underage (encouraging kids to joy ride), operated firearms without a liscence(unless 8 year olde are commonly issued liscences for powerful weapons) and murdered large numbers of animals with no consideration for proper methods of humane slaughter.

      Pacman is out since it encourages kids to consume pills which haven't been proscribed to them.

      Dwarf fortress is out since it allows genocide, torture, theft and flooding of populated towns with magma.

      The whole point of games is that they allow you to do things which would not be allowed in real life.
      I don't know about you but I wouldn't find "Accountancy: The Game" much fun.
      Similarly "Complying with building code regulations" is far less fun that lego.
      "Turning found large qantities of cash into the proper authorities to see if anyone claims it" is far less fun than rogue.

      Why limit it to computer games.
      Any children playing guns with pieces of wood should be forcibly stopped from playing games in which they act out doing illegal things like kill people.
      The blocks of wood should be confiscated and replaced with math books so that they can become productive members of society.

      The whole point of games is that they're not real life.

      I've never stabbed anyone despite playing as an assasin in oblivion.
      I've never shot anyone despite playing doom and GTA.
      I've never undermined by house with tunnels depite playing digdug

    2. Re:Slipperly slope by HungryHobo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're changing the goalposts.

      No I would not "support" any of those games.

      I would however not oppose them since they do nobody an harm of any kind.

      Freedom of speech is a bitch isn't it.

      I don't like rape games so I don't buy them.
      if I had children I'd discourage them from playing rape games.(hell I'd outright stop them)
      I support minimum ages for purchasing them.

      But there's zero reason to ban any of those.

  2. Not just unemployment by jbatista · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd like to see this much dedication in governments to other, more serious, forms of violence such as hunger, desease, poverty and (there I say it!?) corruption and unemployment. Yes, I realize banning unemployment is futile (some people are incompetent) but I consider it a vile form of violence against 40-something people when they're too old for employment but too young for retirement. But if they can get it right with some little things, maybe they can figure out how to get it right with bigger, more important things; but that is just a silly dream of mine.

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  3. Closer to home? by srjh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some of us are Australian, funnily enough.

  4. "Mature"? by Corson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    "Mature" games? As in, games where the player must kill or rape other otherwise torture other people? Strange definition of maturity...

  5. Re:Part of a general pattern by Asic+Eng · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You'll find stupid laws in any country, just because you heard of the minaret ban doesn't mean that's representative of Switzerland. Besides free speech does not mean you can build whatever you want, the minaret ban does not prevent anyone from saying what they want.

  6. Re:Part of a general pattern by clarkkent09 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I got far more worked up over the ban on minarets that they enacted last year. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/30/world/europe/30swiss.html That was a much more serious violation of basic rights.

    Can you name the "basic rights" that are being violated here? Nobody is stopping Muslims in Switzerland from practicing their religion, they are only not allowed to impose it on everyone else in the form of giant rockets (erect penises?) whose only purpose is to promote the said religion. Since they are not even being used for calling for prayer what else is their purpose?

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  7. Re:I can understand banning games by the_womble · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do they not ban all films, books, and CDs with content unsuitable for children as well?

  8. Re:I can understand banning games by somersault · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wow, you've changed my life! I suppose we could say that you've souffled it! I mean, you'd know what I meant, right?

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  9. Re:Part of a general pattern by Rakishi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pure democracy is called "tyranny of the majority" for a reason.

  10. Re:Part of a general pattern by Viol8 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Usually by people who wouldn't get their own way in a true democracy. Well boo hoo, suck it up , thats what true democracy is about. But instead in the west we generally have the type of "democracy" where the elected leaders happily ignore the majority in favour of pressure groups and minorities who make lots of noise. How exactly is that anything other than the tyranny of the minority?

  11. Re:I can understand banning games by Pieroxy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldn't it be easier to ban children directly?

  12. Re:Part of a general pattern by HungryHobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's called that for a reason.
    In a true democracy the majority have all the power.
    If 50% of the population vote yes then they can slaughter of all gays, black people or *generic unpopular group*
    I guess boo hoo, suck it up , thats what true democracy is about.

    Fortunatly most democracies are constitutional democracies where the power of the majority is limited so that groups which are not a large portion of the population don't get shit upon by the majority.

  13. Re:Part of a general pattern by yndrd1984 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can you name the "basic rights" that are being violated here? Nobody is stopping Muslims in Switzerland from practicing their religion, they are only not allowed to impose it on everyone else in the form of giant rockets (erect penises?) whose only purpose is to promote the said religion. Since they are not even being used for calling for prayer what else is their purpose?

    Can you name the "basic rights" that are being violated here? Nobody is stopping Christians in Switzerland from practicing their religion, they are only not allowed to impose it on everyone else in the form of giant torture devices (lower case 't's?) whose only purpose is to promote the said religion. Since they are not even being used for crucifying people what else is their purpose?

  14. Re:Part of a general pattern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    And the chances of that happening are ....

    Funny you say that - sorry to Godwin the thread, but you do remember that Hitler was democratically voted in* on a platform that was less than equality based?

    *before instituting powers that would allow him to take total control.