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Two Chinese Schools Reportedly Tied To Online Attacks
squidw* writes "Online attacks on Google and other American corporations have been traced to computers at two educational institutions in China, including one with close ties to the Chinese military, say people involved in the investigation. From the NY Times: '... the attacks, aimed at stealing trade secrets and computer codes and capturing e-mail of Chinese human rights activists, may have begun as early as April, months earlier than previously believed. ... The Chinese schools involved are Shanghai Jiaotong University and the Lanxiang Vocational School, according to several people with knowledge of the investigation who asked for anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the inquiry. Jiaotong has one of China’s top computer science programs. Just a few weeks ago its students won an international computer programming competition organized by IBM — the “Battle of the Brains” — beating out Stanford and other top-flight universities. Lanxiang, in east China’s Shandong Province, is a huge vocational school that was established with military support and trains some computer scientists for the military.'"
>>>You have it VERY wrong. This is not about the TYPE of an economic system. This is about the type of gov that you are ok with.
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Yes it is. And I see the US and EU governments moving towards Chinese-style government. Not immediately of course, but inch-by-inch. Just look at the legislation: You must buy hospitalization, else Congress will fine you ~$1000 per year. France is passing laws to filter the internet (Chinese-style censorship). The UK is looking at 3 strike laws where you lose internet without trial to prove your innocence. The EU Parliament wants to limit selling to only those with brick-and-mortar storefronts (goodbye to ebay or online-only sellers). GM is now Government Motors in North America. The EU is proposing a government-owned rail system that crosses the continent from Russia to Spain (Chinese style). The EU Parliament wants to make firing bad employees illegal, except in the most egregious circumstances (Chinese style guaranteed employment).
Yeah I know what you're thinking - it's not that bad, and you're right. But the direction is clear: We're moving towards Chinese-style, government-run economy.
Vice-versa China is starting to allow democratic elections (at the local level) which I'm sure will gradually expand to the national level. Eventually (2020? 2030?) our two cultures seem destined to meet in the middle with near identical economic-political systems.
In which case, there's no need to fight. We would become allies.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
I live in a community where a large majority of Nisei were. My family understood their plight and stored many of their things (hiding them would have been treason) during the rounding up and shipping out to the Salinas Rodeo (where they were penned overnight like cattle, before being crammed like sardines into trains and shipped to beautiful Nevada.) My best friend's Father was in the 522nd and the man was as patriotic as anyone I ever met. What we did to them was terrible, what they did for us won the war.
Chinese immigrants have been coming here for years, and they've fought in our wars and worked in our intelligence, energy, and defense services. 1/5th of the world is chinese, that's a lot of room for diverse opinions.
The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land and you can not simply ignore it.
You can if you do it in Cuba.
If God forks the Universe every time you roll a die, he'd better have a damned good memory.