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Our Low-Tech Tax Code

theodp writes "After establishing that nothing can excuse Joe Stack's murderous intentional plane crash into an IRS office, a NY Times Op-Ed explains the reference in Stack's suicide note to an obscure federal tax law — Section 1706 of the 1986 tax act — which the software engineer claimed declared him a 'criminal and non-citizen slave' and ruined his career. Interestingly, a decade-old NY Times article on Section 1706 pretty much agreed: 'The immediate effect of these [Section 1706] audits is to force individual programmers ... to abandon their dreams of getting rich off their high-technology skills.' Section 1706, the NYT Op-Ed concludes, 'is an example of how Congress enacted a discriminatory law that hurt thousands of technology consultants, their staffing firms and customers. And despite strong bipartisan efforts and unbiased studies supporting that law's repeal, it remains on the books.'"

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  1. Re:Was it a cause of his legal trouble? by Lehk228 · · Score: 1, Troll
    from what i could tell reading the article, the trouble appeared when you tried to run a temp agency that kept everyone as contractors or if you tried to create a temp agency as part of your business and use "temps" to staff your business without paying the requisite payroll taxes. that's what i got from

    In passing Section 1706 in 1986, Congress singled out the programmers, engineers, analysts and many other technical workers by mandating that staffing firms no longer be protected by Section 530's safe haven.

    considering that the articles' main assertion, that tax law makes it impossible/almost impossible for programmers to work as consultants, conflicts so much with reality, i am ready to file this under the right-wing anti-tax propaganda heading.

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  2. The IRS is not a *kind* organization... by micklang · · Score: 0, Troll

    A 'tax code' larger than the King James bible, certain rights in a courtroom that flaunt what the average Joe Citizen is allowed to have-- how can the common human ever hope to challenge and win? The IRS has owed me over $2,000.00 for years now and even though I have filled out the required form and that the time to file a request for payment won't expire, I've received nothing. I've lived outside the US since 1994 and STILL have to pay taxes (in both countries now). It could be said that I officially pay for two separate governments. I know what I'm paying; all IRS staffers, my brother's Earned Income Credit (since he's paid under the table), while countless companies and rich folks pay nothing for tax credits. I think that most people would agree that our current tax system is hugely unfair, yet nothing will be done about it. Mr. Stack apparently had enough and took it out on the organization that made his life most miserable. I would not equate him with a terrorist, but as a man who chose to commit a criminal act. Terrorists don't care who they kill, so long as the body count sensationalizes their cause. If he truly was a gifted programmer, he would have tried to find a way to hack into IRS employee email addresses and send them to 'questionable' porn sites instead. I hope at least this brings a spotlight on the IRS' activities and they get raked over the coals for how they treat people. After all, more people have committed suicide over desperation (when dealing with the IRS) than have been killed by Mr. Stack.

    1. Re:The IRS is not a *kind* organization... by ArcherB · · Score: 1, Troll

      The fix is simple. Federal sales tax. Period.

      No IRS. No tax code other than a percentage and what items will remain tax free (food, medicine, etc).

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  3. Re:There's more to this story by Idiomatick · · Score: 0, Troll

    American health care sucking horribly.

  4. Re:There's more to this story by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1, Troll

    I know you've been convinced of a healthcare problem in this country, but it's just not true.

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  5. Re:Was it a cause of his legal trouble? by Khyber · · Score: 0, Troll

    ""if he [Stack] has a house and a plane he can pay his taxes.""

    I don't see any reason to pay taxes - they already TAKE TAX out of my check before I ever get it. Fuck paying them anything extra.

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  6. Re:Double-Standard by h4rr4r · · Score: 0, Troll

    So it was funny when he published a book with himself dressed as a nazi on the cover?

    I don't believe it myself, but it does say a lot that he has not commented on him being accused of raping and mudering a little girl in 1990.

  7. Re:Double-Standard by Bob9113 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Was Mohammed al-Mohammed a United States citizen? If he was, then you are right, this is a double standard. If not, then no, they are not the same. United States citizens have a peculiar duty to The Nation, documented in the Declaration of Independence. One I hope I never have to fulfill.

    Joe Stack may have been wrong, and he may be guilty of homicide or manslaughter (possibly murder, but I think it would be hard to prove premeditated homicide if he didn't know who was going to die or even if anyone would die). But a terrorist? Given he is a citizen, I think that is a stretch.

    Dissident? Yes. Violent? Yes. Extremist? Probably. Terrorist? Only if you brand The Founders the same.

    Tim McVeigh? Evil fucker. Unabomber? Same. But terrorists? I think you paint with too broad a brush. When non-citizens use civilian-targeted violence to try to change the policies of a sovereign nation, that is terrorism. In the United States, when a citizen does so, it may be many things which deserve punishment, up to and including execution (if you believe, as I do, in the death penalty). But branding it terrorism does a disservice to those who fight real terrorism and shows an extreme lack of respect for the violent extremists who founded this nation.

  8. Re:Was it a cause of his legal trouble? by Khyber · · Score: 0, Troll

    "The amount taken from your paycheck has absolutely no effect on the total you have to pay for the year."

    And that's the problem - if they're going to just TAKE it from me without permission - just take out what I owe, and LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

    Thankfully, I've been able to sustain myself on less than 8,000 a year (below poverty,) so I don't have to file, and if I filed now for back taxes, they'd likely owe me tons of money.

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  9. Re:The more interesting part by GNT · · Score: 0, Troll

    Let me just point out

    (a) Not a civilian target. He hit the IRS, a despised Federal Agency.

    (b) He was not a random white guy. He is a member of the class presently most ignored at every level by the Powers That Be.

    (c) He identified the nature of the problem correctly and chose to fight back. Good for him. Bad for .gov. And I can't blame him for his choice.

    (d) Not a terrorist as he clearly wasn't trying to induce terror in the civilian population for political gain. If anything it was a wakeup call to .gov (and us) that maybe the IRS is as nutso as he says.

  10. Re:Was it a cause of his legal trouble? by publiclurker · · Score: 0, Troll

    The question was not how one could earn 8K, but how someone like you could. I forgot that I wasn't talking to my potted plants and should have dumbed down my wording even more.

  11. Re:Was it a cause of his legal trouble? by gbjbaanb · · Score: 0, Troll

    one might argue its persecution, but then others might argue that its simpel tax-avoidance on a large scale that makes this kind of 1-man 'self-employed' contractor a perfect case to be investigated. Its like racially profiling airline passengers and treating middle-eastern passengers like they are more likely to be terrorists (not that all middle easterners are terrorists, but that most terrorists are middle eastern, for example).

    So, because of the 'set up as self-employed and then get a long-term job with the exact same role as you would have if you were employed' tax scam, the IRS is undoubtedly within its remit to investigate.

    Of course, there are ways around this - currently its umbrella companies.