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EU Privacy Chief Says ACTA Violates European Law

An anonymous reader writes "Peter Hustinx, the European Data Protection Supervisor, has issued a 20-page opinion expressing concern about ACTA (PDF). Michael Geist's summary of the opinion notes that it concludes that the prospect of a three-strikes and you're out system may violate European privacy law, that the possibility of cross-border enforcement raises serious privacy issues, and that ACTA transparency is needed now."

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  1. Seems fairly intelligent... by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One of the points he makes, which is a good one, is that data-sharing for enforcement purposes among countries that have different criminal punishments for copyright law is hard to justify. It also makes me wonder if--for example--I live in a country with fair use and a country with more stringent fair use policies wants to go after me for copyright infringement... well, you see the issues. Will the country with the most stringent policies suddenly be the equivalent of the patent troll district in Texas?

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    1. Re:Seems fairly intelligent... by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Will the country with the most stringent policies suddenly be the equivalent of the patent troll district in Texas?

      They already are. That is why they came up with ACTA in the first place.

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    2. Re:Seems fairly intelligent... by Proteus+Child · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the side: There's a Facebook group I started in the hope to raise awareness, with the ultimate goal being to petition / lobby governments. Feel free to join, it's called We need 5m people to prevent the labels killing internet freedom with ACTA.

      That's great. How do you propose we go about it? Just sitting around in a Facebook group bitching won't accomplish anything.

      Who do we write to? Who do we call? What are they in charge of? What power (realistically) do they have over the situation? Do we tell them that we back them, or that we're against their support of ACTA?

      We need actionable information, or pointers to where we can find it. Anyone know where to start?

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  2. I Think I Know Why They Left Him Out by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So after reading a bit of his "opinion" piece (written way more formally than any opinion piece I've read), it seems that without reading the full extent of ACTA he is dead set against it. Any aspect he has heard of (most likely through Doctorow or Geist) he makes a case for it being a violation of privacy. Without even reading all of it, he knows it's illegal. His title sounds like he should have been invited to these proceedings but I think I can decipher why he wasn't invited ...

    I agree with him but it sounds like he would be opposed to anything they could dream up. And maybe that's the way it should be ... maybe privacy and international IP/copyright enforcement are inseparable. Not being an expert, I cannot say. I am fairly certain, however, that each country has to pass this into law once the countries agree on a basis. I will say that my representative and senators had better damn well represent the majority of the population and I hope that majority is with me on this. What the EDPS should do is continue to demand transparency but also get the citizens and all the members of the EU to promise not to pass this into legislation without transparency right now.

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    1. Re:I Think I Know Why They Left Him Out by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      it seems that without reading the full extent of ACTA he is dead set against it.

      How is one supposed to read the full extent of a paper that is not only secret but unfinished? How about this:

      1. We are for the legalization of rape
      2. We support the use of undocumented aliens
      3. We support wages of one dollar per hour

      (rest of list redacted)
      How can I be against this list when I've only seen three items?

      If what you see of a list is 100% evil, it is fair to assume that not only is the rest of the list evil, but so are the people writing the list.

      The very fact that MNOs are writing laws for the world's governments puts ME squarely against it, even if they're supporting sunshine and flowers. NOTHING matters to an MNO except profits; they are amoral and nonsocial. They do not care about human rights, only profits, and any politician in any country that supportst this travesty should be voted out of office.

      will say that my representative and senators had better damn well represent the majority of the population and I hope that majority is with me on this.

      I agree completely. But even if the majority of my state's voters are for inhumane copyright legislation, I personally will vote against any politician that votes for it.

      The corporations have too much power; they should have none at all.

    2. Re:I Think I Know Why They Left Him Out by El+Jynx · · Score: 5, Interesting

      We SHOULD be against any form of copyright protection on principle. It goes against nature (copying is natural) and hence will require LOADS of energy to enforce - from policy makers, judges, and cops to sysadmins and users. Get rid of it; there's plenty of better ways to get this done. Open source collaboration is one, alternate business models are another. The record companies have already been made superfluous by these developments and they know it, but they're doing their damnedest to become tyrants rather than adjust to life's flux.

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  3. dude has got it all wrong... by sxpert · · Score: 5, Funny

    the title should read "European Law violates ACTA"
    subtitled "The law must be changed"

  4. Re:Secret laws are illegal anyway by codegen · · Score: 5, Informative

    Its not law yet. Its a proposed international treaty. Once it is signed, then each individual country that signs (an ratifies) it is then obligated to pass laws to implement the treaty. Those laws of course will be public.

    The problem with secret negotiations, is that the public is then presented with a fait d'accompli, which must be implemented in law, thus depriving them of any input. In some countries, the ratification process provides some measure of input, but it is binary, either yes or no. Once ratified, the politicians can then say, "we have to pass this law, we are obligated by the treaty" and ignore any opposition from the public.

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  5. Re:Secret laws are illegal anyway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most countries also prefer to avoid having anything to do with the men threatening western civilization instead of fighting them.

    Yes, because if EU had declared war on the USA while Bush was in power, it would have caused WW3. The nicer approach was to just wait for his term as a president to finally run out.

  6. Keeping proposed legislation secret by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have to disagree with you in this:

    People have all sorts of different reasons for keeping legislation secret until it is proposed ranging from strategically hiding it from your opposition thereby reducing their reaction time to simply not having a solid foundation built yet. If you've got a shaky idea of what all the players want out of this deal, you shouldn't be publishing the initial draft of the documentation. This leads to confusion and gives opponents fodder. Let's say the countries that came to the table eventually reject the international three strikes rule but later have problems passing a better version of ACTA that actually tries to achieve a solution without invading privacy.

    That's exacty what corrupts democracy from an open discussion of ideas towards a power game more akin to chess playing. Entertaining, but missing the point.

    One of the pieces of US legislation I'm most envious of, as an European is FOIA (the time span should be considerably shorter, but over here, governments are free to keep things secret forever).

    Keep politics and admin honest by making known as much as possible as early as possible.