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Xerox Sues Google, Yahoo Over Search Patents

gnosygnus writes "Xerox Corp has sued Google, Inc. and Yahoo, Inc., accusing them of infringing the document management company's patents related to Internet search. In a lawsuit filed last Friday in the US District Court in Delaware, Xerox said Google's Web-based services, such as Google Maps, YouTube and AdSense advertising software, as well as Web tools including Yahoo Shopping, infringe patents granted as far back as 2001. Xerox seeks compensation for past infringement and asked the court to halt the companies from further using the technology."

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  1. Real Goal: Cross-Licensing? by Shadowhawk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My guess is that Xerox isn't looking for any big payout, but rather some kind of cross-licensing deal for patents.

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  2. Re:Can you say "Patent troll"? by calibre-not-output · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I recognize their historical importance in IT, but the past is past. Whoever is calling their shots now is acting like a patent troll. This isn't the first time, either.

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  3. Re:Can you say "Patent troll"? by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And once upon a time SCO was a respectable Unix vendor.

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  4. Re:Remember when PARC actually invented stuff? by raddan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, it sounds to me like Xerox is facing increasing irrelevancy, and has decided to turn to litigation as a new revenue stream. I [ugh, sadly] do a lot of purchasing of office equipment, and now that I think of it, I have not even once considered a Xerox product in the last 6 years that I've worked here. I'm not even sure what they're up to anymore.

  5. Re:Remember when PARC actually invented stuff? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good times, but how the mighty have fallen these days. I for one miss the idea of a pure research group.

    Yeah ... no kidding. Put Bell Laboratories on the short list as well.

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  6. Re:Remember when PARC actually invented stuff? by spidercoz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Science, logic, critical thinking, simple human decency...notice that the 21st Century seems to be going the opposite direction all the popular old sci-fi said it would? We should sue.

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  7. Do you just say that every time? by ThrowAwaySociety · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I can: PATENT TROLL.

    I know it's in vogue here on Slashdot to scream "Troll!" anytime a patent holder sues for infringement, but "patent troll" really means something distinct from "patent suit."

    From the Wiki, a patent troll is someone who:
    * Purchases a patent, often from a bankrupt firm, and then sues another company by claiming that one of its products infringes on the purchased patent;
    * Enforces patents against purported infringers without itself intending to manufacture the patented product or supply the patented service;
    * Enforces patents but has no manufacturing or research base
    * Focuses its efforts solely on enforcing patent rights.
    * Asserts patent infringement claims against non-copiers or against a large industry that is composed of non-copiers

    TFA and TFS are thin on details, so there is no evidence to support the idea that Xerox is doing any one of these.

  8. Re:Remember when PARC actually invented stuff? by JamesP · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Too bad management at PARC were too retarded to profit from what the guys (and gals) there invented (they were 10 years ahead)

    researchers: "We've invented the GUI, OO programming, etc, etc"
    managers "hurr durr durr what's that hurrrr"

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  9. Re:Can you say "Patent troll"? by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Even at that, more than 2 or 3 years, and I call troll. Either that, or incompetent leadership. Can you say that a negotiation that lasted for presumably as much as 6 to 10 years broke down initiating this suit? Plus, they filed suits against multiple parties. If they did one today, and another in 6 months than your theory would be much more plausible. But as it appears now, I can't see how it can be anything but "troll".
    1. "Innovate" an interesting idea, patent it, and do nothing with it
    2. Wait for others to independently develop the same idea, and do nothing about it
    3. Wait for others' products to launch, and do nothing about it
    4. Wait for others' products to gain market penetration, then sue their asses off for infringement
    5. Profit

    If there's a better definition of a troll, I don't know what it is...

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  10. Re:Can you say "Patent troll"? by Rob+Y. · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...They practically invented the GUI.
    ...and if they'd be able to patent it, we'd still all be running DOS, since Xerox never came out with a GUI product. Such is the power of software patents to drive innovation (into the ground).

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  11. Re:Can you say "Patent troll"? by Creepy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, no - since the GUI would have been patented in the 1970s and at that time the law gave protection for 17 years from the date of publication (and usually took 3 years to get published - current law is 20 years from filing). GUIs didn't really become popular until the late 1980s and that would have been near the end of any patent for it, so it may have delayed the GUI, but not killed it. Some hardware patents Xerox showed off such as the mouse would have already been near end of patent by the 1980s (invented in the 1960s).

        I'm not saying software patents don't suck - I don't think people should be able to patent, say, how to do the Navier Stokes equations for fluid dynamics in software and on graphics hardware, which has been done multiple times (and the methods are trivially obvious in some cases - one hardware accelerated patent I saw was essentially implementing an expired software patent in hardware). OTOH, if you INVENTED the Navier Stokes equations, then sure - allow a patent that can apply to software. I also don't think an idea itself should be patentable, either - for instance, I remember Woz talking about when he made characters display on a screen and then later getting sued by a TV manufacturer that had patented the idea - there needs to be some practical plan to implement it.