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Steam UI Update Beta Drops IE Rendering For WebKit

Citing massive growth in their user base ("25 million users, 1000+ games, 12 billion player minutes per month, and 75 billion Steam client minutes per month"), Valve unveiled a revamped UI for Steam on Tuesday, opening the beta test to anyone who wants to try it out. There are many changes, and an increased focus on social features: "Right from within your own game Library, you can now track which of your friends plays each game or invite them to play one with you. Before you've even bought a game, knowing whether your friends play it is one of the most useful pieces of information to have. So on the store homepage, there's a new listing of what your friends have bought or played lately." Tracking games and achievements have both gotten simpler, and Valve has dropped the Internet Explorer rendering engine in favor of WebKit. An enterprising user also found files that may indicate the existence of an OS X Steam client.

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  1. Why OSX? by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Exactly how many steam games have OSX versions? Does anyone actually game with Macs?

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    1. Re:Why OSX? by oiron · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe they're trying to create the market?

    2. Re:Why OSX? by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm not sure what portion of Steam's sales they account for, but Steam does distribute a decent number of indie games, and Mac sales often account for a disproportionate share of indie-game sales, possibly due to Mac users being culturally more into "pay $10 for an app" mindset, and less competition from AAA titles.

    3. Re:Why OSX? by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Exactly how many steam games have OSX versions? Does anyone actually game with Macs?

      Maybe they're trying to create the market?

      We're sorry, Steam has been rejected from the iTunes app store for duplicating iTunes functionality. If you would like to alter your app and resubmit, please feel free.

    4. Re:Why OSX? by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Give it time.

  2. Re:I'm not quite sold. by sopssa · · Score: 4, Informative

    You do know you can add shortcuts to non-steam games in Steam too? That way you also get the in-game browser and community features in it. You're the first person I've actually heard of using the Vista/Win7 game explorer though, if not using Steam it's much faster to write part of the game's name to start menu search box and launch it.

  3. Re:I don't want to be tracked by sopssa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So then just don't use Steam. There's a difference between being tracked involuntarily a la Google Analytics and tracking your game stats and achievements on a gaming platform that contains such community features, which you signed up for.

    Your complain is like signing up to a dating site and then complaining how the girls won't leave you alone.

  4. Bring back compact mode! by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The new steam beta window is HUGE. A lot of people used the old compact mode (most of the time), so that steam was just a menu of games, not a "gaming portal" or whatever other buzzwords.

    1. Re:Bring back compact mode! by MrNemesis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Haven't you heard? If your application doesn't have a synergistic community portal for leveraging paradigm-changing reality matricies you're officially a member of the Software 1.0 generation. I can't wait until the new version of TurboTax comes out with 1-click facebook export, twitter feed for liability expenses and a CoverFlow-alike system for making your tax returns totally pimped.

      Never thought I'd be such a cynical old fart at 30, but if I want to socialise with people I'll do it down the fucking pub thank you very much :)

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  5. Re:I don't want to be tracked by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your complain is like signing up to a dating site and then complaining how the girls won't leave you alone.

    More like the bots won't leave him alone, and he can't find any real live women.

  6. Re:I don't want to be tracked by GhigoRenzulli · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I signed Steam to play games and not to be a part of some kind of gaming social network where others know what you're doing.
    I don't see a tight connection (nor a loose one) between playing and letting know to all the world that I'm actually playing and what.
    If I sign up to a dating site, it's for finding girls. It's not a valid comparison.

  7. Re:I don't want to be tracked by sopssa · · Score: 4, Informative

    How does Steam let the whole world know if you're playing or not? Even if you use your usual nickname with Steam, set your profile status to private (it's friends only by default if I remember correctly) and don't add friends on it. No one knows you're playing then.

    99% of games you can also buy on other media or download services than Steam (MW2 and a few other games being exceptions, since they use Steam).

    Complaining about Steam's community and friends features is stupid because you don't need to use them if you don't want to.

  8. Re:Neat UI after Battle.Net changes by Xest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's not just Battle.Net really, these are features that XBox Live has had for a while and that Microsoft has tried to bring to Windows with Games for Windows Live also, which now has it's own games store too.

    I don't think this was so much about bringing new features for the benefit of users in general as much as it was about keeping up with the competition.

    If Steam didn't introduce these features it would start to look very dated.

    One thing I wish ALL these services would introduce is download scheduling though, over the last few years there's been a shift towards capped peak time downloads in the UK (and many other countries), and I can't afford to have multi-gigabyte game updates and downloads and so forth chewing into my bandwidth allowance. I don't have the option of just loading it up when the off-peak period starts and downloads aren't capped, and turning it off in the morning, because I go to bed a couple of hours before peak time starts, and get up and go to work a couple of hours before it ends.

    It may sound trivial but for me, and I imagine others in my position it's actually a big deal- I don't buy games via Steam partly because it's annoying only being able to download said games on weekends when I am up at the right times to be able to get it going and stop it during the off-peak period. For me, it's actually more convenient to just buy games in shops, or order them online. Similarly I don't buy retail games on XBox Live or even bother trying multi-gb demos for this reason- I can't control when they will be downloaded.

    Valve, Microsoft, Blizzard et al. seem oblivious to the fact that being too lazy to implement a download scheduler is costing them customers. Sure there are workarounds, and ways to implement these sorts of things themselves, but they're hacks that updates can break and there's nothing less amusing than coming home to find some update has fucked your scheduling hack and you've had 90% your monthly on-peak usage allowance chewed up right at the start of the month because of it.

    Of course another option is to go to an ISP that oversells and doesn't have caps like this, but then that's equally useless because those ISPs are the same ones that are utterly hopeless for online gaming.

    It's ironic that once again, it's a simple feature that's ignored, but that most popular BitTorrent, or USENET clients provide- yet again, it seems piracy offers the superior distribution mechanism.

    Anyway, that's my rant for the day ;)

  9. Re:I don't want to be tracked by Culture20 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    girls? it's the men who won't leave me alone that bother me! *shudder*

    Stop playing a female night elf then. Sheesh.

  10. Re:Webkit by _merlin · · Score: 4, Interesting

    At this rate, WebKit could be the new IE6 - it could become so pervasive that people take it for granted, and develop web sites that only render correctly in WebKit. It's already in Safari, Chrome, Konqueror, iTunes, Steam, Midori, Maemo, Moblin, iPhone and WebOS, and will be coming to Blackberry soon. What does this mean for the interoperable web? (Yes, it's better than IE6 in that it's reasonably standards-compliant, cross-platform and licensed under LGPL2.)

  11. Fixes an interesting issue. by Orbijx · · Score: 5, Informative

    With this beta release of Steam, they fix an interesting issue that cropped up with the release of Windows 7.

    For users of that particular OS who have either removed Internet Explorer, or did not have it installed at all when the OS was installed (see: Europe, and the rest of the world that couldn't even stand the browser), Steam was half-broken. One could not see any screenshots for a game before purchasing. Anything that needed a popup window in Steam would NOT default to the main browser installed on the system.

    People complained about this, asking Steam to start looking for the default browser on the system so they could at least go back to browsing for games and possibly buying them.

    It's good to see them actually address that issue.

    Maybe I'll buy Space Giraffe to celebrate.

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  12. Re:Neat UI after Battle.Net changes by Zeussy · · Score: 4, Informative

    I add steam as a scheduled task to start up in the off peak times. Before I go to bed, unpause the download, and close steam. Wait for the scheduled task to start it back up for me.

  13. TurboTax DOES have 1-click facebook export already by ahecht · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just finished my taxes last week, and in one of the last steps after e-filing TurboTax offered to post a "I just finished my taxes with TurboTax and I'm getting a $XXX refund!" message to my Facebook profile.

  14. Re:So by AndrewNeo · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sorry, apparently they only changed Steam itself, as the interface used in the games to access a browser is built in with the engine, so it'd require an update and more testing for each game that still uses IE individually. However, apparently you can turn off HTML MOTDs. (Google it)