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Passive-Aggressive Wi-Fi Hotspots

the digital nomad writes "If you've had enough of your neighbor stealing your Wi-Fi connection or letting his dog s#%t on your lawn, there is now a better solution than suffering in silence with your brooding anger: leave your neighbor 'a message!' Passive-Aggressive Wi-Fi Hotspots let your networks say what you cannot. And if you're looking for some great name for your Hotspot, make sure to read this post by Gizmodo."

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  1. Or. by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or you could...you know...actually secure your wifi.

    1. Re:Or. by BlueTrin · · Score: 2, Informative

      The above poster is referring to this link in the article.

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    2. Re:Or. by TheLink · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not as fun as this:

      http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html

      You might even purposely not secure your wifi ;).

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    3. Re:Or. by digitalhermit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My wifi is normally secured, but I have some neighbors that are always trying to login. I see their attempts in the router logs and I open the router up every so often just to have fun. I set the broadcast name to "passw0rd" and changed to that password. Sure enough, they immediately log in with that key. I've set the router to deny all traffic except through my squid proxy and all pages redirect to the proxy welcome page until then. I don't care for their personal content, but it's interesting seeing the URLs that show up in the proxy. Many of them set cookies or use other auth so I can't see their content (at least not without changing some settings) but a good percentage use URL encoding so I can pull up their personal sites. The neighbors bounce a lot between facebook, gmail and some news sites. Oh and porn. The bastards watch a lot of porn. I'm probably going to start redirecting those sites to the GOP homepage or a rickroll at some point You can do this by subscribing squid to one of the blocklist sites. Nothing like a dated meme to piss off the neighbors.

      Setup of the squid proxy took a few hours.. hardest part was the DNS redirect until they connect to the proxy, but there's tons of instructions now for doing it...

    4. Re:Or. by furby076 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Network Name "PedoLocalChapter15"

      Is it possible to setup a router (e.g. linksys, netgear) to do annoying pop-ups on people's computers who are not on a MAC list? So if someone connects to my network they get a pop-up every X time....I would so spam them, every 3 seconds, with pop-ups to various animal porn sites

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    5. Re:Or. by BattleApple · · Score: 2, Interesting

      he should flip the text upside down too.. http://www.fliptext.org/

  2. You don't really need to be a jerk by rwa2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, some of them are a little bit funny. This would make a good humor post. But it's hard enough to stay on good terms with your neighbors as it is, so consider saying something nice. Like in driving, it's often stupid and dangerous to fight *ssholes by acting like one yourself, thinking you're going to teach them a lesson.

    I run an open AP named "nohup", since it's on a UPS and is often the only one still running when the power goes out. (Unfortunately, Verizon FIOS's upstream UPS goes out after 5-10 minutes nowadays -- not the ONI in my house, which can putter along for a few hours, but something upstream of that)

    Work with your neighbors to get a wifi mesh going: http://www.olsr.org/

    If you still really want to dick with people, at least do something more technically interesting with transparent proxy hacks, such as https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upside-Down-TernetHowTo or running it through a Swedish Chef filter or the ilk.

    1. Re:You don't really need to be a jerk by godrik · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I know you are already modded Interesting. but thank you for the info,

      For the record, the ESSID of my network is ParasiteNet and is always open (in the honor of C. Doctorow). My neighboor love it. They just receive DHCPNAKs when they start consuming too much bandwidth...

  3. spelling correction by phil42 · · Score: 2, Funny

    that is spelled $#!+

  4. Best way to deal with this is good old Cat5. by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd like to see my neighboor get into my wired network.

    1. Re:Best way to deal with this is good old Cat5. by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm dong that even as we speak.

      But seriously I agree with you. If you're in a fixed place like your home, it makes more sense to just plug into a nearby jack (in my case - a phone jack). It will provide a faster connection, and doesn't broadcast your data all over the neighborhood for people to see (like those black BBC vans with the antennas).

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    2. Re:Best way to deal with this is good old Cat5. by Rod+Beauvex · · Score: 2, Funny

      Alternatively, nothing says 'stay off my network' like four bands of plastic sheathed cable to the face.

    3. Re:Best way to deal with this is good old Cat5. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd like to see my neighboor get into my wired network.

      It's easy to get your wish granted. Just invite him to your flat, tell him to bring his laptop with him, and then offer him a cable to connect. Make sure you watch him while he gets into your wired network, because if you don't, you'll probably not see it.

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    4. Re:Best way to deal with this is good old Cat5. by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Informative

      But seriously I agree with you. If you're in a fixed place like your home, it makes more sense to just plug into a nearby jack (in my case - a phone jack).

      Sure... assuming you have ethernet jacks sprinkled about your walls everywhere. Oh, and an ethernet jack on your laptop. And carry ethernet cable around with you. And you don't plan to get up and move around anywhere.

      So, yeah, assuming all that, wires make way more sense...

  5. Senile old man by xbeefsupreme · · Score: 5, Funny

    You Damn kids, get off my wifi!!

    1. Re:Senile old man by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think "get off my WLAN" sounds better.
      Note that WLAN is an anagram of LAWN.

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  6. Stupid idea. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just install some snooper and logger and let the neighbour in, steal the credentials to his bank account, brokerage account, clean them out, and bankrupt him and force his home into foreclosure and buy it yourself using his own money that you stole. Now no pesky neighbour riding free on your WiFi. Instead you come up with some lame network names? Dumb.

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    1. Re:Stupid idea. by Reece400 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just redirect them to an unsigned page, 4/5 people won't notice the difference (they've all clicked the don't warn me again check boxes at some point of other).

  7. Or Even Funnier by DaMattster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Set up your devices with static addresses and set a dhcp scope above the addresses that you need. Then you transparently redirect any http request originating from the dhcp scope to say, www.google.com (or something nastier to be left to your imagination), using the power of iptables. Now, no matter what website the piggy backer tries to visit, he will be greeted with the ubiquitous google.com home page. Watch how quickly the neighbors will learn to leave your network alone.

  8. My SSID is BALLNASTY by L3370 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's questionably vulgar. And I know all my neighbors are seeing this.

    The best thing about the name was when my girlfriends mother stayed over for vacation. She brought her laptop and asked for the name of our WiFi network. My girlfriend said it to her in a mumbling embarrassed tone.

  9. Re:Other issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're an asshole. Whatever happened to Love Thy Neighbor?

    If I found out you were doing that to me, I'd beat your nerdy ass till it was blue.

    Retard. People like you are the reason no one likes their neighbors.

  10. Re:Other issues by pak9rabid · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, how hard would it really be if every router shipped with a unique SSID and a default random password?

    Not very..AT&T has been managing this with their CPEs for at least 4 years. They simply use the serial # printed on the CPE as the default password. Unique and not likely to be guessed.

  11. Re:Other issues by lowrydr310 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, how hard would it really be if every router shipped with a unique SSID and a default random password?

    The routers that verizon hands out with their FiOS service do exactly this. They have a unique 6 character hexadecimal string as the SSID, and each has a unique WEP password that's printed on the bottom of the router on a sticker.

    Now I know this isn't perfect (WEP security limitations aside), but it's sure as hell better than every single customer in my apartment complex having "Linksys" or "Netgear" access points with no encryption and default passwords.

    I quickly ran into a limitation on the size of the NAT with this freebie router so I run my own router as the primary, and simply use the Verizon device as a bridge/media converter so my set top box can obtain guide info and IPTV (on-demand video) since it only has a coax interface.

  12. Re:Other issues by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, needless to say, he was a computer moron.

    Well, you're the moron who can't get windows XP to connect to your own wireless network.

    Pot, kettle.

  13. Re:Other issues by RMH101 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is acting like a dick. It's not his fault you can't configure your wife's laptop, and it's not his fault that he didn't know how to lock down his router.
    What did your little episode teach him? To come ask the asshole next door (who hacks his system on the sly to annoy him) next time his computer has a problem? Why not just ask him to do it nicely, or offer in the first place? Oh yeah, because you wanted to harass him and make money out of him. Nice.
    Hope your plumber/mechanic/etc neighbours pull the same trick on you sometime.

  14. Convo with SSID by zcold · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is funny only because I once had a conversation with someone using SSID. It was back and forth quips everyday about how my house is better than theirs and so on and so forth.. I realized how incredibly interesting it was to have a "conversation" with SSIDs and how incredibly geeky it was..

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  15. Re:Other issues by pebs · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Holy crap, why didn't you just talk to your neighbor to begin with? Talk about passive aggressive. The real moron here is the one who couldn't get the laptop to ignore a wifi network.

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  16. Re:Other issues by operagost · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Your post is missing the part where you first told your neighbor about the problem and offered to fix his router for free-- you know, because it would have benefited both parties. I guess all the aggravation and wasted time and gas was worth $50, right? My mother-in-law had a similar problem (someone moved in who had a router with the same SSID on the same channel) so I changed the SSID, channel, and turned on WPA2 (which I had been looking for an excuse to do for some time).

    I've never had the problem you describe with XP. I set the rogue SSID to manual connect, and it never bothers me.

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  17. Re:Freifunk by Abcd1234 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In the real world, it just opens up yourself to litigation if someone does something illegal over your network.

    I suppose you have one, single, real-world example where this has actually happened? I mean, you wouldn't just be throwing out frightening hypotheticals, would you?

  18. Re:Exactly. Using open wifi is not stealing. by orasio · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But you neglect the fact that there is a protocol.
    By publishing the ESSID, you invite other to connect to your network.
    There is no need to publish an ESSID, and you could always lock the network.

    If you leave the door open, and put a sign outside that says "come in", people might come to your house. For example, that's how retail works, and that's why we don't put "come in" signs at our front doors.

  19. Re:Other issues by snspdaarf · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't like my neighbours because they leave passive-aggressive notes as their SSID. I AM NOT A HOSEPUNCHER! I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

    That's the guy that take normal garden hose and makes sprinkler hose out of it by punching tiny little holes from one end to the other. The previous job description, "leak maker", has been deprecated.

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  20. I came up with the best name by wbav · · Score: 3, Funny
    When people connect to my wireless network with a Microsoft machine, they see:

    "Windows is now connecting to the 'Psychic Friends' network."

    Makes me smile, every time.

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  21. Re:Other issues by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They were both morons. The neighbor just lacked knowledge, while the poster lacked knowledge, research skills (I'm sure the answer is in knowledge base), and apparently is a sociopath.

    I even if solving the problem at the neighbor's router was the best solution, wouldn't it have been more neighborly to just ask him to set the SSID to hidden, and maybe tell him how to secure his router? What's with the BOFH abuse and then charging his neighbor for the privilege. They had a mutual interest in tweaking the router, so they should have been able to come to an agreement which didn't involve money changing hands: turning off SSID makes the router less useful to its owner.

    Your neighbors are your neighbors. You're supposed to talk to them, loan and borrow tools and knowledge (within reason. obviously you wouldn't do a free surgical consult). Setting a password is a "do it while chatting over coffee" activity. You wouldn't bill your neighbor for helping nail down plywood shutters before a hurricane and you shouldn't bill you neighbor for helping him type 8-14 letters in a text box and clicking enter.

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  22. Re:Exactly. Using open wifi is not stealing. by zappepcs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, you might be right IF it was not possible to accidentally do this. For about a year, my next door neighbor and I were stealing from each other. My wife had blocked our wifi ap in the laptop setup somehow (she doesn't know) and was leaching off the neighbor. When her laptop stopped working, I investigated. Found that it was not set to log to our own AP, and further found that a secondary AP of ours was in a default state, that is enabled and unsecure. Guess who was logged into it? The same neighbor who's AP her laptop had been using till he secured it. My best guess is that it had been that way for months. No party involved walked through any door, nor did we actively initiate picking up anything. There was no intent to steal, share, or otherwise deprive anyone of anything, but it happened just the same. In this case, no harm no foul. Yes, I look at the configs now and then. A recent storm reset the vonage router and it defaulted to enabled and secure but that caused interference with the AP I use so it was not left for anyone to try using it. Yes, I have UPS, so don't need obvious suggestions. The point is most equipment is set to log in anywhere it can and will happily do so without reporting where that is. Calling it theft is like accusing passersby of using images of your house without permission because they have stored a memory of their journey in their head.

  23. Not passive-aggressive by michaelmalak · · Score: 3, Informative
    Sending messages over SSIDs is not passive-aggressive, it's avoidant. It could be considered passive-aggressive in a contrived example, such as if a neighbor makes lewd comments to your wife, your wife demands that you talk to the neighbor about it, but instead you decide to communicate over SSID. In that case, you have a responsibility set up by an authority of sorts, and you have ducked that responsibility by fulfilling its terms perhaps by letter and certainly not in spirit.

    "Passive-aggressive" is a catch-phrase that has been broadened in pop psychology, in part because the Internet has permitted so many more avoidant behaviors and people need a name for it and use the one that has enjoyed more use in the popular (primarily entertainment) media.

    1. Re:Not passive-aggressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh shut up you pedantic, humorless idiot.

  24. Relevant Link: by 2obvious4u · · Score: 3, Interesting
  25. Re:Nice Guys Finish Last by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If I caught my neighbors using my wifi, I'd ask them how they cracked WPA2-AES.

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  26. I do this already by Itninja · · Score: 2, Funny

    The SSID of my unsecured 'guest' hotspot (for friends' cell phone and such) has be called 'keystroke_logger_enabled" for years.

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  27. Re:Exactly. Using open wifi is not stealing. by blackest_k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Trouble with your analogy is that wifi routers default to being relatively secure these days. you would be hard pressed to buy a router within the last few years that wasnt secure by default.

    If the owner has made his router open its practically certain that it was intentional.

  28. Re:Other issues by imakemusic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you had access to the router why didn't you just but a ban on your wife's laptop to prevent it from being able to join?

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  29. Re:Other issues by gknoy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yea, actually tried going through the HOA first. Talking to the guy directly was something we'd done before with no success on other issues. He was a real asshole to start with. Kinda felt good doing that.

    Someone else being a jerk first does not make your actions less rude.

  30. Re:Other issues by LanMan04 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So because you can't operate YOUR computer properly (XP connecting to this guy's router), you decide to fuck up his internet?

    Asshole.

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  31. Re:CALEA doesn't let you tell by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, that's bullshit. Try actually reading the act, rather than just reading scare stories on Slashdot or third-hand accounts:

    (8) The term ``telecommunications carrier--

                                            (A) means a person or entity engaged in the transmission or switching of wire or electronic communications as a common carrier for hire; and
                                            (B) includes--

                                                            (i) a person or entity engaged in providing commercial mobile service (as defined in section 332(d) of the Communications Act of 1934 (47 U.S.C. 332(d))); or
                                                            (ii) a person or entity engaged in providing wire or electronic communication switching or transmission service to the extent that the Commission finds that such service is a replacement for a substantial portion of the local telephone exchange service and that it is in the public interest to deem such a person or entity to be a telecommunications carrier for purposes of this title; but

                                            (C) does not include--

                                                            (i) persons or entities insofar as they are engaged in providing information services; and
                                                            (ii) any class or category of telecommunications carriers that the Commission exempts by rule after consultation with the Attorney General.

    Given your average open WAP owner isn't providing "commercial mobile service", nor is a "common carrier for hire", and is actually explicitly exempt from the act, it's blatantly obvious that CALEA doesn't apply to them.

  32. Oblig Bash.org: by Weaselmancer · · Score: 2, Funny

    #202477 +(7983)- [X]

    (Mootar) morons.
    (Mootar) these people who live in my apartment complex are connected to my wireless
    (Mootar) they must think they're super-cool hackers by breaking into my completely unsecure network
    (Mootar) unfortunatly, the connection works both ways
    (Mootar) long story short, they now have loads of horse porn on their computer

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  33. Re:Other issues by religious+freak · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You had all kinds of opportunities to do this right, but instead you consistently choose to be a passive aggressive dick to a guy who didn't even have any idea he was doing something which was not completely perfect. Nice job.

    Not only that, but you didn't even have to actively help him, you could've just properly configured your wife's XP computer. Good luck in life dude, I'm guessing it sucks for you... perhaps for good reason.

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  34. better yet by formfeed · · Score: 2, Funny

    Open your wifi a couple days before you go on vacation and set squid to redirect all the "bad" sites to some scary warning page you made up. Then immediately disconnect.

    The warning page will show your neighbour's lan address, but your public IP and your street address, together with some severe warnings.

    Two days later, have some friends drag you out of the house into a dark car. For effect they can also carry out an old computer monitor. When you return two weeks later, look angrily at your neighbor.