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How Slums Can Save the Planet

Standing Bear writes "One billion people live in squatter cities and, according to the UN, this number will double in the next 25 years. Stewart Brand writes in Prospect Magazine about what squatter cities can teach us about future urban living. 'The magic of squatter cities is that they are improved steadily and gradually by their residents,' writes Brand. 'Squatter cities are also unexpectedly green. They have maximum density — 1M people per square mile in some areas of Mumbai — and have minimum energy and material use. People get around by foot, bicycle, rickshaw, or the universal shared taxi.' Brand adds that in most slums recycling is literally a way of life e.g. the Dharavi slum in Mumbai has 400 recycling units and 30,000 rag-pickers. 'Of course, fast-growing cities are far from an unmitigated good. They concentrate crime, pollution, disease, and injustice as much as business, innovation, education, and entertainment,' says Brand. Still, as architect Peter Calthorpe wrote in 1985: 'The city is the most environmentally benign form of human settlement. Each city dweller consumes less land, less energy, less water, and produces less pollution than his counterpart in settlements of lower densities.'" Reader Kanel adds this note of perspective: "Kevin Kelly is another guy who wrote about slums in a very positive light, though he was more interested in self-organisation and why cities are cool, I think. Kelly also reports on the strange trend for slum tourism. What we're seeing here is that the 'slums' have become a vehicle for people to bring out their own ideas about cities, humans, and the universe at large. I have a feeling that we're not really going to learn a lot about slums if we study them through these guys."

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  1. Am I alone or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    do others regard this as cynical as well?

    1. Re:Am I alone or by siloko · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If the predominant lesson learned from Slums is not how to prevent them then I think we are missing something . . .

    2. Re:Am I alone or by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I could not agree more. The only reason slums are 'green' or recycle is due to poverty. They cant afford power and they cant afford to buy new. The latter being a mildly good affect of the first.
      This article/idea is just more rubbish from people who want everyone to go green no matter the cost. Be it lifestyle or effect on economies. I for one do not welcome our new green wanna be overlords.
      We should focus more on bringing everyone up to the level 1st world countries expect. We should be focusing on how to generate renewable power, not on how to use less. We should focus on how to take all garbage and recycle it easily. Sorting and cleaning is ridiculous. Garbage is dirty!

    3. Re:Am I alone or by BeanThere · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No shit. Who the hell thinks slums are a positive thing? I've spent a fair bit of time in and around the slums of South Africa, and trust me, it is roughly akin to hell on Earth --- they are not an "example", there is absolutely nothing positive about them, they cannot "teach us" anything, and the only lessons we must take away are how to prevent them.

      What is perhaps a more useful question to ask is, what are the motives behind those who would attempt to brainwash us into thinking they're a positive thing? I am highly suspicious; for some reason I can't put my finger on, I smell evil here, not ignorance.

      If slums were better, people would live in them voluntarily and self-organise their communities like slums naturally when given the choice. Those that live in them are dying to get out.

    4. Re:Am I alone or by tburkhol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No shit. Who the hell thinks slums are a positive thing? I've spent a fair bit of time in and around the slums of South Africa, and trust me, it is roughly akin to hell on Earth --- they are not an "example", there is absolutely nothing positive about them, they cannot "teach us" anything, and the only lessons we must take away are how to prevent them.

      They can teach us about the resilience of life. They can teach us that it is possible, if extremely unpleasant, to live on almost nothing. In its extreme, "green living" means to live on almost nothing, and a slum is an example of what your life could be like if you truly minimize your carbon footprint. They're not positive, but they're definitely lessons.

      One imagines that the lesson we should really take is that neither a zero carbon lifestyle nor a McMansion-living, Hummer-driving US lifestyle can be the future. That you don't really need single-serving, prepackaged, frozen corn, but you don't really want to rely on the box it came as roofing material. Compromise, somewhere between the fanatics on both sides.

    5. Re:Am I alone or by 1s44c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I've seen slums in India and I totally agree with you. Hell on earth is probably understating it. It's just not possible to express how bad these places are in words, the words just don't exist. No human could see real slums and believe they can teach us anything.

      Stewart Brand and Kevin Kelly should try living in a slum for just 24 hours. The mental scars would last a lifetime.

    6. Re:Am I alone or by BeanThere · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But they exemplify a social self-organization that does have positive consequences from a sustainability perspective.

      Except ... they don't. They *precisely* don't. Slums are a major example of a social structure that is *unsustainable*. That is precisely part of their problem. Come experience some real slums for yourself and see if you still agree with yourself.

      I get what the author is trying to say, I'm not an idiot -- basically that high-density settlements have a low *per-capita* 'ecological footprint'. YAY. What big news. But now what? I must "learn" from that? That's pointless, stupid and misguided. Slums are also filthy, disease-ridden, crime-ridden hotbeds of human suffering, they still cause *major* damage to the environment (ever see a river running through a slum? ever see the air pollution from 5 million poor people crammed into a few hectares burning whatever rubbish they can to keep warm or cook their food? ever see first-hand how every living green thing is decimated, how rubbish piles up everywhere because of lack of services, how people live in fear constantly? I am "learning" that this is "good"?)

      I'm quite capable of learning how to lower my ecological 'footprint' without looking at a slum. I know what sustainable living is. I know what the problems are. I agree we should lower pollution. None of this requires me to admire a slum.

  2. Re:Where do the authors live? by aynoknman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You miss the point. The point is not that slums are good for the people who live in them. Slums are good for people who don't live in them.

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  3. Summary of article: great but we won't live there by fantomas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So a brief summary of the article would appear to be: affluent Westerners living in air conditioned, well educated, health insured cosmopolitan urban areas think that slums with no sewage facilities, running water, health care or protection against corruption or physical violence are a great way of housing migrant, poor populations. Said poor will have more opportunities in life if they live in urban slums than rural poverty. Rich authors of articles do not offer to move out of their million dollar homes to move into the slums, despite singing their praises.

     

  4. Re:Population density by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't see how it can ever be pleasant to live so close to other people. I'm all for energy efficiency, but there has to be a better way.

    Fewer People.

  5. It's more environmentally friendly to die. by MongooseCN · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Living in a slum is good because it's environmentally friendly and uses less resources? He may as well argue that's it's even more environmentally friendly to die young.

  6. Re:A Precious Illusion of Progress ... by AudioInfecktion · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I still don't think most of the readers have a concept of what it is you describe.

    This topic was enough to get me up at 4am, log in to a computer that I usually do not use. Type in my horrendously complex password while still groggy eyed to expose the fantastic, misguided "progressive" bullhocky Stewart Brand is proposing.

    I invite the rest of you out there to take a look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJhVM930YXY video, taken from a movie that I can't remember the title of at the moment in my 4am and see what it is that he thinks. The picture on the article is so sanitized it makes puke.

    This is not what human kind should be reduced to. For the author of this article to believe its someones place to live like this to satisfy some "green" agenda is reprehensible.

    Honestly, the best way that I've seen for enabling this segment of society to grow and prosper and have success is the availability of micro loans. The amount of success driven by this type of economic activity is truly inspiring.

    I'm going back to sleep now.

  7. Re:Kevin McCloud explored this by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "He goes and lives in Dharavi for a few weeks and describes his experiences from a micro and macro point of view."

    All the time knowing he can fly home whenever he wants.

    30yrs ago as a young married guy with one kid I lived on what American's call a trailer park, I worked 60hr weeks as a day labourer on nearby farms which still did not pay enough to live in a rented house. I lost count of the number of tourists I told to go fuck themselves after they had remarked to me what a "carefree lifestyle" I had.

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  8. Poverty, not density, forces effeciency by Lacraia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This article just make me sick. Any discourse involving slums without considering the effects of poverty just comes out wrong. Of course people living in slums " have minimum energy and material use". They have to. They have no choice. With such a small amount of resources that the people in the slums have they are forced to use them as efficient as possible. Something we, wealthy people, don't need to. At least in our own narrow perspective. We, the rich, aren't less energy efficient because we happen to live less dense. It because we feel like we can afford it. I can go by car, not because it's the only means of traveling, but it's more convenient and it doesn't mean I have to refrain from eating a couple of days. A enormous amount of the worlds population don't have this luxury. One proof of this missintepration of why people in densely populated areas are more energy efficient is that rich people in, for example, Manhattan (as it is used in the article) will most likely travel a lot by taxi and several times a year, if not monthly, travel by air. The reason for this: because they have the resources to do so. It seems like we're benign to use whatever resources that are available to us. I don't want force everyone to live like those in Rosinha, Rio de Janeiro. Neither do I want everyone to put a strain on the world like the financial elite. Judging by the growth of the world population and the state of the environment, we, rich and lucky, need to learn to use what we have in a much sustainable and efficient manner. We might have to look to the poor for this knowledge, but don't think that they are more efficient for no other reason then a dire need to be so.