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Newborns' Blood Used To Build Secret DNA Database

Kanel notes a summary up at New Scientist of an investigation by a Texas newspaper revealing that Texas health officials had secretly transferred hundreds of newborn babies' blood samples to the federal government to build a DNA database. Here's the (long and detailed) article in the Texas Tribune. From New Scientist: "The Texas Department of State Health Services routinely collected blood samples from newborns to screen for a variety of health conditions, before throwing the samples out. But beginning in 2002, the DSHS contracted Texas A&M University to store blood samples for potential use in medical research. These accumulated at rate of 800,000 per year. The DSHS did not obtain permission from parents, who sued the DSHS, which settled in November 2009. Now the Tribune reveals that wasn't the end of the matter. As it turns out, between 2003 and 2007, the DSHS also gave 800 anonymized blood samples to the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory to help create a national mitochondrial DNA database. This came to light after repeated open records requests filed by the Tribune turned up documents detailing the mtDNA program. Apparently, these samples were part of a larger program to build a national, perhaps international, DNA database that could be used to track down missing persons and solve cold cases."

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  1. pardon my ignorance by Q-Hack! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But, how is a blood sample from somebody born in 2003 going to solve a cold case? I guess a seven year old is prone to murder.

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    1. Re:pardon my ignorance by ak_hepcat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Okay, we pardon it.

      But only because you haven't figured out that parents pass their genes on to their children, and that prior samples might be matched against 'new blood'

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    2. Re:pardon my ignorance by Sad+Loser · · Score: 5, Insightful


      the reason to harvest cord blood rather than anything else is because it is free, easy to collect, and has more than average stem cells.

      if in the future one of these people needs a bone marrow transplant, they have a perfect match. Research causes are also in there, but I very much doubt the legal/forensic side of things was considered in all this, and usually medical databases are quite thoroughly tied down in this respect.

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    3. Re:pardon my ignorance by Michael+Kristopeit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      and how do you explain that to a child without having them conclude that society expects them to one day commit crimes?

    4. Re:pardon my ignorance by pookemon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes - however all the products that are derived from blood have a very finite life. For example Plasma extracted from blood (which is used in a significant variety of products produced by CSL in Australia) lasts around 90 days (IIRC). Blood used in transfusions lasts about 30 days, platelettes even less. Cord blood is used for type specific transfusions in other patients, rather than for the original donor and even though parents can pay for long term storage of their childs cord blood, the viability of these samples are questionnable at best. The other issue is that if the illness that requires the blood transfusion is caused by genes then the use of the childs original cord blood may be pointless.

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    5. Re:pardon my ignorance by Anonymusing · · Score: 2, Informative

      Where did you read that they were storing cord blood? The article says blood spots.

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    6. Re:pardon my ignorance by besalope · · Score: 3, Interesting

      But, how is a blood sample from somebody born in 2003 going to solve a cold case? I guess a seven year old is prone to murder.

      Mitochondrial DNA is different from the DNA everyone else knows about. When the Egg is fertilized, the Mitochondria from the mother is contained inside the egg. Thus, identical mitochondrial DNA will exist through the maternal hierarchy of families.

      Using Mitochondrial DNA, you can trace back and find some relatives (not all, but a fair amount). The mtDNA database can scan mtDNA samples from crime scenes and compare the results against the newborn mtDNA to see if any of their family members had committed such crime, therefore narrowing the scope of the investigator's search be a large margin.

      This is powerful tech, that is sadly going to be used in the wrong way.

    7. Re:pardon my ignorance by hansg · · Score: 3, Informative

      and usually medical databases are quite thoroughly tied down in this respect.

      I don't know much about this case, but in Sweden we have a national test for all newborns, where they collect blood to check for a few diseases (PKU, the google is your friend). When they have checked it, they store the information "for research purposes".

      When our minister of foreign affairs was killed, the Police requested samples from the database and got them.

      So, don't count on the database staying "for research purposes"...

      /Hans

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    8. Re:pardon my ignorance by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Informative

      More importantly, a law has already been broken and the newborn is the victim. HIPPA forbids sharing these data. Someone should go to prison for this egregious assault on the civil rights of Americans.

      Don't give me that "civil liberties" crap; they're not just liberties, they're RIGHTS. And Texas is violating them. Texas, hypocritically and ironically claiming to be the state most individualistic. What a crock.

  2. not unusual, no privacy or property issue by bcrowell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is actually not that unusual. Typically if they take a tissue sample from you at the hospital, it belongs to them, and you have no property rights over it. For an extreme case, check out the story of Henrietta Lacks, who died of cancer in 1951. They took cells from her tumor, kept them alive indefinitely, and commercialized them. Her relatives didn't know about any of this until decades later.

    As TFA notes, these blood samples were anonymized, and mitochondrial DNA cannot be traced back to individuals.

    So there was no privacy issue, and no issue of property rights. And therefore the issue was...?

    1. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Aside from property rights, there's also an implied right to medical confidentiality.

    2. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by mveloso · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually, it's not as straight-forward as you think. There are a few people who have successfully asserted rights to their blood chemistry, etc. The NYT did an article on it a while back, which I can't find.

      The medical profession doesn't like this, because it complicates their finances. Your line is what they tell the public, because it benefits the medical community.

      Your blood chemistry, etc is your property, if you want it to be.

    3. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by shadowbearer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Typically if they take a tissue sample from you at the hospital, it belongs to them

        No. It "belongs" to the being it was taken from. The being it was taken from has first "copyright"/"patent"/"trademark" to it (add whatever terms the lawyers feel necessary, here)

            It does not matter who sequenced it first. It does not matter whether it has unique properties. It does not matter who it was taken from, whether they consented to it, or not.

        No corporation, government, nor any other entity, can own anything about me that I do not give explicitly give them rights to.

        Legislators can pontificate as much as they want to, there are things that we - as human beings - won't give up. This is one of them. History proves that.

        If those in power wish to [continue] to do so, they will suffer the same fate as their predecessors have; they will eventually be replaced.

        Fools.

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    4. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by FiloEleven · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have researched the topic and drawn up a Venn Diagram of "people clever enough to copyright their DNA" and "people with the opportunity to knock up some chicks":
      O O

    5. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by langelgjm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On the legal side, Moore v. Regents of the University of California is one of the most important cases on this issue.

      As for your comment, you have an interesting political philosophy. Ideas like property and ownership are neither inherent nor immutable. Absent government, society, and laws, things like "property", "ownership" and "mine/yours" are pretty much defined by what you can physically control or prevent others from taking from you. So sure, you own your shit (figuratively and literally) as long as you can stop anyone else from taking it. State of nature and all that.

      Of course none of us are in the state of nature anymore, we all live in societies with governments and legal systems that define certain sets of property rights and interests. I don't claim to be up to date on ownership of tissue issues, just recall that case from a class I took a while ago. But my point is that you make a philosophical claim about the nature of property and base it on a relationship between a human and an object. But property is fundamentally social: it is about a relationship between a human and another human with respect to some object.

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    6. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by Real1tyCzech · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Go try to find bread in the store that doesn't have chemically altered high fructose corn syrup in it."

      Did that ages ago...

      http://www.retailrelay.com/Arnold-Country-White-Bread-1-Lb-8-Oz-P1407.aspx

      Arnold bread. Many of their varieties contain *NO* HFCS. :)

      Usually available in any major supermarket, usually decently priced.

    7. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No need to throw in bullshit fantasy words like “copyright/trademarks/patents” in there.
      It’s a physical object. The word is: OW.NER.SHIP.

      You own your body. That is perhaps the single most foundational law of all laws ever written. (Countless laws use it as a base. E.g. all basic rights!)

      So you own your blood sample. plain and simple. If they take it away from you, even as a baby, without your agreement, that is theft. Plain and simple. And a huge invasion of privacy too. Perhaps even bodily harm.
      Of course as a baby, your parents are your legal representatives.

      But about the rest of your comment: I completely and wholeheartedly agree!

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    8. Re:not unusual, no privacy or property issue by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You own your body. That is perhaps the single most foundational law of all laws ever written. (Countless laws use it as a base. E.g. all basic rights!)

      Yet the debate about whether or not a woman has the right to take chemicals to induce her body to flush a mass of cells that is forming inside her continues unabated.

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  3. Someone enlighten me by FlightTest · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because the TFA certainly doesn't.

    How, exactly, are anonymized blood samples going to used to track down missing persons or solve cold cases, or do anything else that hinges on tying a person to that blood sample? That is assuming you believe the samples were actually anonymized, which there's no way to know for sure.

    I'm not defending what was done, but the only real use I can see would be statistical evaluation. Possibly a good idea, but the implementation (doing it without consent) is clearly wrong.

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    1. Re:Someone enlighten me by Xamusk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Probably, "anonymized" to them really means that only the person's name was erased. Yet, as most slashdotters know, there are other ways to track a person from other information. For example, the name may be gone, but if the hospital and birth date are yet in the database, it narrows down considerably the number of people being searched. And, as we all know, the db probably will be abused at some time.

    2. Re:Someone enlighten me by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How, exactly, are anonymized blood samples going to used to track down missing persons or solve cold cases, or do anything else that hinges on tying a person to that blood sample?

      TFA actually refers to two separate programs.

      The first, and more chilling of the two, Texas hospitals have sent all newborn blood samples for entry into a DNA database since 2003. The second part, which came to light only because of the suit by parents over the first point, involves 800 anonymous samples for an mtDNA database. That part sounds reasonably innocuous (if still lacking in prior consent).


      So, how "should" we feel about this? We should feel pretty damned pissed, and each and every one of us should flood our states, towns, and local hospitals with FOIA requests about possible variants of similar programs in our own areas. We should also (but of course won't) riot in the streets demanding the immediate destruction of this database and all samples taken, as well as a goddamned constitutional amendment explicitly granting us "genetic privacy" rights from both government and private (aka commercial) entities.

      Instead, this will just fade from view without anyone really noticing or caring, and will expand until it contains each and every human in the country (and eventually, on the planet). And we'll still fail to stop illegal immigration or terrorist attacks, but you can bet your last penny it'll affect your ability to get loans and various types of insurance.

      "Oh, sorry, your Genetic Rating (tm) says you probably won't live long enough to pay us back, can't help you with that new car".

    3. Re:Someone enlighten me by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Therefore, if a child's record happens to match up with, say a kidnap/run-away

      Since the samples were anonymized, there is no child's record but a record of an unknown donor. If you have a kidnap victim/run-away, you can test their nuclear DNA directly with the parent or with a maternal relative with the mitochondrial DNA. The database has no real use in this case. At best if you compare the child with a sample in the database, you might get a hit but you don't know who supplied the sample in the database.

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    4. Re:Someone enlighten me by ShakaUVM · · Score: 2, Funny

      >>So, how "should" we feel about this?

      Well, I for one trust that the government will only use their secret DNA database in an ethical and prudent fashion.

  4. Re: no LEGAL privacy or property issue - YET by yndrd1984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So there was no legal privacy issue, and no issue of legal property rights. And therefore the issue was moral or ethical, or that the legal system should be changed?

  5. Need new tag by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    whosyourdaddy

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  6. IMHO a few people need to go to prison. by joocemann · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone else agree or disagree?

    Discuss... what kind of punishment should this yield?

    1. Re:IMHO a few people need to go to prison. by rec9140 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >Anyone else agree or disagree?
      >Discuss... what kind of punishment should this yield?

      Some thing far more terminal, painful, and with extreme prejudice, and being Texas I think the residents are probably well equipped to handle it.

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    2. Re:IMHO a few people need to go to prison. by lennier · · Score: 2, Funny

      Some thing far more terminal, painful, and with extreme prejudice, and being Texas I think the residents are probably well equipped to handle it.

      ... forced attendance at a chili cook-off and have to eat it all?

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    3. Re:IMHO a few people need to go to prison. by freedom_india · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nope. Will NEVER happen.
      Why?
      1) Its Texas.
      2) The officials were helping the Govt. commit a crime. You can't convict a Govt.
      3) Even if everything goes OK, the state dept will cite official secrets as a reason to get the case thrown out.

      Tell me how many officials have been convicted so far in:
      1) Public prosecutors firing
      2) CIA agent outing.
      3) Katrina failures
      4) Gitmo tortures

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  7. pardon my ignorance by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The article brings up the specter of privacy violations without really explanation that the combination of the anonymized and mitochondrial DNA makes identification difficult. In fact, the article makes it appear that mtDNA is somehow more definitive than nuclear DNA. Yes, it was a violation of rights to collect and store the samples.

    I'm wondering how 800 "anonymized" samples of mitochondrial DNA going to help solve any cold cases. First it's mitochondrial DNA which is not as distinctive as nuclear DNA. For humans, it links maternal parentage not individual characteristics. Second, it's "anonymized" meaning that using them in identification later is unlikely.

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  8. What's the purpose of the secret DNA database? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    * To identify races?
    * To profile racial difference?
    * To track individuals (and/or families), crime involvement, education level, whatnots?
    * To look for certain special DNA strains?

    BIG BROTHER knows no bound, does it?

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    1. Re:What's the purpose of the secret DNA database? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

      BIG BROTHER knows no bound, does it?

      Hence the need for DNA for testing! Without DNA testing, you can never be sure whether it's your big brother, or just some unrelated weirdo spying on you. Makes a big difference.

  9. Re: no LEGAL privacy or property issue - YET by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So there was no legal privacy issue, and no issue of legal property rights. And therefore the issue was moral or ethical, or that the legal system should be changed?

    Okay, let's split up the two issues, which are different.

    Privacy:

    IMO the absence of a privacy violation here is not just a legality. There was no violation of privacy at all in this case. Not violation in any legal sense, and no violation in any ethical sense. The mitochondrial DNA cannot be traced to individuals, so the individuals' privacy has been maintained. It's no more a violation of privacy than if someone had gone to the doctor with a case of syphilis, and the doctor duly reported it as a statistic to some government agency, with no personally identifiable information.

    Property:

    Re the property side of things, sure, please go ahead and make a case for this. What is the ethical problem with the current legal setup?

    It seems to me that the current legal setup is the best one in terms of ethics. It allows medical research to be carried out, without making it necessary for doctors or hospitals to beg and plead and negotiate for the rights to study someone's cancer cells or whatever. Ethically, I don't believe that these people have any property claim. I expel my body wastes into the sewers without any expectation that the city will negotiate with me individually for the possible economic value of those wastes. When I cut my hair and nails, the cuttings go in the trash, and I don't expect the city to enter into a bargaining process with me about what they're worth. IMO we have a situation where there's no ethical expectation that parents will retain any property rights to blood samples taken in the hospital, and where there may be benefits to society in using those samples in various ways. Therefore I don't think it's ethical to allow individuals to veto the use of the samples from their kids. Should they be able to opt out? I don't see why. It would have a negative effect on society by biasing the sample.

  10. to remove some confusion: by rritterson · · Score: 5, Informative

    Let me explain to you why this is not as scary and outrageous as it would first seem. The summary and article are very good ones, but don't provide enough context for a non-expert to understand how serious/non-serious it is:

    As the summary indicates and RTFA seems to confirm, DSHS collected the samples for use in anonymous human medical research. This is done all of the time, as another poster commented (and gave the great example of HeLa cells). Typically, an oversight committee reviews a great many details about your research plan and ensures your collection methods are sufficiently anonymous, and your research is done in such a way as to avoid revealing the identity of the sample if at all possible. (Usually, users are separated from the database maintainers, and the users never even know the identities of the samples).

    As one example, co-worker of mine receives nasal swabs of infected children in Nicaragua, under the auspices of WHO and CDC. He screens them using very expensive diagnostic assays that aren't viable in the clinic but are useful for basic research. His lab has discovered several new viruses in these samples that weren't previously discovered due to geographic bias in clinical cohorts (you sample the people most likely to be able to pay for the cure). He never knows the names of the children, just age, symptoms, and previous infections. He has to renew his certification to work with human samples once a year to ensure he knows all relevant legal and ethical regulations, and must update his research plan regularly, and receive annual approval from the oversight committee, even if he doesn't change anything. (And must stop all research if he procrastinates and certification lapses) However, without being able to use these samples, both basic research and clinically relevant research would be hampered. DSHS probably operates in the same way.

    The issue here is that these samples were passed to the federal government and they used them to build a DNA database. People sued primarily because DNA is considered very personal information in this country and having the government track you using it is a current moral panic/boogeyman. (Partially warranted, partially not). In this case, however, they were using mitochondrial DNA, which is separate from your normal chromosomal DNA. Because sperm have no mitochrondia, all of your mitochondrial DNA is passed matrilineally (i.e. from mother to child-- sons cannot pass it on at all). Because you only have one copy, it does not undergo recombination during sperm/egg generation, and thus changes very very slowly. As a result, people like the National Geographic Society are using the information to trace human migration patterns throughout history using mitochondrial sequence information (google it). However, because it's so similar from person to person ---it is unlikely to be able to be traced directly back to you or identify you the way your chromosomal DNA is--- instead, it can tell where your mother's mother's mother's mother's mother's mother came from, i.e. your ethnicity. With enough samples it may even be able to tell whether you are a recent immigrant, a long term american, etc. This means that, using this database as a source, police may one day collect mtDNA from a crime scene and know they are looking for a person from Eastern Europe that is 1st-3rd generation american. That is, it can be used to narrow suspects, but can't be used to identify you directly.

    So, in the end, the information (at least to me, as a molecular biologist) is relatively harmless and perhaps even good, in balance. However, given the serious objections people would likely have if they had known their information would be used in this way, the oversight committee should have required additional consent to use and collect this information for each person's sample they collected (and insured the people who gave consent gave informed consent). That would have avoided the mess entirely, and been more ethical.

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    1. Re:to remove some confusion: by B1ackDragon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I was going to say something about the relative rates of drift in mitochondrial dna, but I think you've hit it spot on. I take it there aren't any microsatellites in mtDNA?

      Anyway, for those interested, here's an interesting paper regarding a relatively variant region in mitochondrial dna, but for butterflies, rather than humans. Notice that even in butterflies (which have a generation per year), there are some variants which are present over a vast portion of the range of the species---definitely not useful for identifying individuals.

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  11. Re: no LEGAL privacy or property issue - YET by Paleolibertarian · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You are wrong. When a person discards human waste, hair, nail, urine, feces, saliva, blood, cancer cells or whatever there is no legal expectation of privacy or property as you say. However when a tissue sample is given there is an expectation that it will be used ONLY for the purpose for which it was given. Any other use without the explicit permission of the owner is wrong and should be prohibited.

    If a person drinks from a soda can and then discards that can then any DNA on the can, assuming traceability, can be used in a criminal case but if the person keeps the can then discards it without traceability then it cannot.

    In the case of whether a doctor would need permission for a tissue sample to be entered into a database or some other and especially commercial use would be clear. A person's tissue is his property and cannot be used for purposes other than what he has explicitly permitted. In the case of the cancer patient you mentioned her body would become property of her estate and any use commercial or otherwise would need to be approved by the patient's heirs. If profits are made from a tissue sample then the heirs are entitled to royalties.

    The idea of negative effects upon society by enforcing privacy and property rights are simply well, socialistic.

    Edwin

  12. Re: no LEGAL privacy or property issue - YET by bcrowell · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are wrong. When a person discards human waste, hair, nail, urine, feces, saliva, blood, cancer cells or whatever there is no legal expectation of privacy or property as you say. However when a tissue sample is given there is an expectation that it will be used ONLY for the purpose for which it was given. Any other use without the explicit permission of the owner is wrong and should be prohibited. [...] In the case of whether a doctor would need permission for a tissue sample to be entered into a database or some other and especially commercial use would be clear. A person's tissue is his property and cannot be used for purposes other than what he has explicitly permitted. In the case of the cancer patient you mentioned her body would become property of her estate and any use commercial or otherwise would need to be approved by the patient's heirs. If profits are made from a tissue sample then the heirs are entitled to royalties.

    The post you're responding to was specifically about the ethical issues involved, not the legal ones. However, your post seems to be entirely a description of what you think the law says. You're incorrect about the law. (I assume we're talking about U.S. law here, since TFA was about something that happened in Texas.) Common law has said since Haynes' Case, in 1613, that bodies and parts of bodies are not legal property. This principle was upheld in the U.S. in 1990, in Moore v. Regents of the University of California, which ruled that a cancer patient had no property right relating to the commercial use of his cancer cells. The most recent case to uphold the same principle was Washington University v. Catalona (2006), in which patients sued to get back their samples of prostate tissue, blood, and DNA, and the court ruled that the samples were not their property.

  13. no informed consent, no research by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I decide who researches with my DNA

  14. Re:Bloodspots != storage in a database by pla · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If you'd RTFA (I know This Is Slashdot) you'd have read that:

    Believe it or not, some of us already knew the context of this issue and brought in information from other sources. For example:

    In Texas, five parents filed a lawsuit through the Texas Civil Rights Project on March 12, 2009. Texas settled their lawsuit by agreeing to destroy blood spots collected without parent consent since 2002 (all blood spots before a May 27, 2009 opt-out bill became law), but keeping the genetic test results indefinitely. The new law allows retention of newborn blood spots (DNA) unless parents sign a form either the day of the screening when they receive the form or any time in the future.

    So basically, yeah, they destroyed the original blood samples. And you can opt out of them keeping such samples in the future. But they will keep the DNA they already have, and they will collect the blood and keep the DNA from it in the future.