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Narus Develops Social Media Sleuth

maximus1 writes "Narus is developing a new technology code-named Hone that can be used to identify anonymous users of social networks and Internet services. Hone can do some pretty 'scary' things, says Antonio Nucci, chief technology officer with Narus. Hone uses artificial intelligence to analyze e-mails and can link mails to different accounts, doing what Nucci calls topical analysis. 'It's going to go through a set of documents and automatically it's going to organize them in topics — I'm not talking about keywords as is done today, I'm talking about topics,' he said. That can't be done with today's technology, he said. 'If you search for fertilizers on Google ... it's going to come back with 6.5 million pages. Enjoy,' he said. 'If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer ... it's not even searchable.' Nucci will discuss Hone at the RSA Conference in San Francisco Friday."

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  1. scare tactics by drDugan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More ridiculous terrorism scare tactics used for attention.

    "If you want to search for non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer..." No, I don't. Most likely you'll find a bunch of harmless pot growers and housewives trying to grow pretty flowers. People smart enough to really harm a well run society aren't posting details on the Internet. For the rest of us, these people will just take all the money you can from selling other people's (previously) private data.

    No matter how hard we try, we will not stop determined individuals from attacking any society unless we effectively remove all freedoms from the citizens. I choose freedom over safety every time. The solutions to terrorism are NOT more or better surveillance, better technology, or more war. Real solutions include primarily the creation of a society that people don't WANT to attack. The reasons people have for suicide bombing and terrorism are usually pretty damn clear: they have nothing left to lose, and someone took advantage of them to direct their hate toward the easiest, most hated target.

    Well, you want to fix terrorism, then address the real reasons for hating your society; it's pretty simple, and the only thing that really works.

    Stories like this, about "scary" technology advances, remind me that as technology moves forward, the essential nature of the rights and freedoms that the US used to stand for and defend are more important now than ever before.

    Here's what I'd like to find: A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member. Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all? A single honest politician? Even one? Let's find non-doctors charging Medicare. Corrupt cops. Meth distributors. Human traffickers. Murderers. People who built technology just to make money using other people's personal data, and try and frame it using terrorism scare tactics. Oh wait...

    1. Re:scare tactics by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So what you are saying is that because people realize that they had nothing to do with their intelligence and therefore the benefits that accrue to them from it are in some sense not deserved, they should be reeducated? Or that in a world where half a billion people starved a few years in the midst of record harvests, to say that this is wrong can only come from ignorance? Should the children of ex-Nazis not have felt guilty about living in a society run by the same people as in the 1930's and 1940's? The idea that any kind of feeling for ones fellow man is the result of ignorance, that the highest expression of man's potential is greed and gluttony should strike us as a failure to know what the highest pleasures are and as an acute failure of the moral sense.

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      Inventions have long since reached their limit, and I see no hope for further development.-- Frontinus, 1st cent. AD
    2. Re:scare tactics by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A non-tax-cheat who is also a congress member. Oh, oh, how about a politician that still has a moral compass at all? A single honest politician? Even one?

      The problem with being an honest politician is most people would rather vote for a dishonest person who will do what they want than an honest person who does what they don't want. I believe this is the main formula for Bill Clinton's success, along with many other politicians.

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    3. Re:scare tactics by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That depends on what they hate you for. Some people do indeed hate people for their ideology. It's happened quite often in history. You think the Jews' problem was something other than what Hitler believed, not what the Jews believed? Or France, for that matter?

      One of the reasons Hitler got into power in the first place was that he promised to overturn the completely unreasonable and punitive towards Germany peace treaty of WWI. One of the reasons why no one tried to stop him before it was too late was that the victors of that war had a guilty conscience over the same treaty.

      And your example is flawed in other ways too. For example, Hitler didn't pick Jews arbitrarily; he picked them because they were the terrorists/commies/witches of their time, widely believed to be trying to destroy Western civilization for some vague nefarious ideological reasons. It was easy for Hitler to fan that fear, and to convince people the Jews were trying to destroy their lifestyle and would never stop, so the people needed to give him the power to deal with the problem; in other words, exactly the same shit as we are having nowadays.

      Pulling out the "terrorists just hate the US because of what the US has done" should be based on what the said terrorist has said, not based on what we think the US does wrong.

      Don't most of them name some specific real or perceived wrong as their motivation? Osama, for example, took exception to US troops in Middle-East.

      But I don't think we can assume terrorists would stop hating the US if the US fixed things they did wrong.

      They would, however, have a lot harder time recruiting people willing to die just to take Americans with them.

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      Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.

  2. Re:But does it know me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No, I'm Cowboy Neil!

  3. Re:But does it know me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm Spartacus!

  4. Whats the point? by ickleberry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People making bombs are hardly going to talk about it on Faceshit or other worthless social sites. They are already using encryption - probably one time pads, steganography, shared secret encryption with infinite-length keys and the like and will always be able to continue doing so.

    This will more likely be used to convict people for sharing mp3's, using 'stolen' wifi, people who built a small extension to their house in the middle of nowhere without straight away notifying the local government so they can pay their new and increased rates of property tax. This will be used to implement an ultra-controlled very rigidly regulated society which most people if you talk to them seem to approve of.

    Man's greatest addiction is controlling other people's lives

    ".... should be banned because it didn't work out so well for one person"
    ".... should not be allowed because it affects the view from my house"
    ".... should be taxed to death. Put those damn rich people back where they belong."
    ".... is evil, could lead to any number of bigger problems and should be banned."
    ".... cannot be installed by anyone other than a highly trained professional because one person died trying"
    ".... is bad for the environment and should not be allowed."
    ".... should not be allowed to sit in a playground by himself because he might be a future paedophile"

    We have nobody to blame but ourselves for overregulation, we desire control, order and security so much that the government is scrambling to find ways to enforce the presently unenforceable. First the church was used as an excuse for ruining people's enjoyment, now its 'de children', the environment and the notion that 'mere humans' cant handle much freedom without losing the plot

  5. Re:But does it know me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'm a jungle theme!

  6. "Easy place to hide"?? BS! by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In many ways, the cyber world is ideal for subversive and terrorist activities, said Antonio Nucci, chief technology officer with Narus. "For bad people, it's an easy place to hide," Nucci said. "They can get lost and very easily hide behind a massive ocean of legal digital transactions."

    I would really, really like to take people who are promoting "security" and who say "the Internet is an easy place to hide", to someplace private and then continuously bitch-slap them until they admit that they are either stupid or dishonest.

    If they want to investigate a place where it's "easy to hide", I suggest they try their data-mining tools on the mails, or UPS or Fed-Ex. And good f**ing luck to them.

  7. Breathe them vapors by Datamonstar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dude needs to learn how to use Google before he takes on a task of this magnitude. Or, more aptly, before TALKING about taking on a task of this magnitude, which is all he's doing at the moment.

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  8. Re:Ummmm.... by teh+moges · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You don't need to market to 'the masses' to make (substantial) money off a product. Law enforcement is a big enough market if you get good saturation and Google + other ad networks would be a massive market.

  9. On the internet? by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > non-farmers who are discussing fertilizer

    That's pretty much the whole internet; a lot of non-farmers talking a bunch of shit.