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Intel's Core i7-980X Six-Core Benchmarked

Ninjakicks writes "Although they won't hit store shelves for a few more weeks, today Intel has officially unveiled the new Core i7-980X Extreme processor. The Core i7-980X Extreme is based on Intel's 32nm Gulftown core, derived from their Nehalem architecture and sports six execution cores. The chip runs at a 3.33GHz clock frequency, that can jump up to 3.6GHz in Intel's Turbo Boost mode. This processor has a max TDP of 130W, which amazingly is the same as previous generation Core i7 quad-core CPUs. Of course, it's crazy fast too. Some may say that the majority of applications can't truly take advantage of the resources afforded by a six-core chip capable of processing up to 12 threads. However, the fact remains there are plenty of multi-threaded usage models and applications where the power of a CPU like this can be put to very good use."

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  1. Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Targon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know there are SOME people out there who have $1000 to spend on just a CPU, but until these come down a long way in terms of price, it is WAY out of my price range.

    1. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Vectormatic · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Intel always prices their High end around $1000, never mind the fact that price/performance on those chips is horrible.

      It is the price you pay for getting the bleeding edge, AMD also has some halo models, but because they cant beat intel in performance, they cant afford to charge $1000 for their high end chips.

      As for this comming down, AMD is slated to release six-core phenoms to the desktop before summer iirc, it wont have the raw performance of this thing, but 6 cores for under 200 bucks sounds nice doesnt it?

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    2. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by rotide · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All new bleeding edge CPUs are expensive. That's not the point of the article/submission. The point here is that a very fast 6 core, 12 thread consumer level processor is now on the market.

      Price will come down in due time.

    3. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative

      I know there are SOME people out there who have $1000 to spend on just a CPU, but until these come down a long way in terms of price, it is WAY out of my price range.

      Companies? Rendering farms? At this price, I'd imagine they're not really for the average consumer but more so for companies that can consider such a purchase an asset.

      That said, you do realize that the i7-975 quad core that they compared it to is also nigh $1000, right? I think showing that the same price will buy you an entirely different beast signals that quad cores are complete. The current quad cores price will come down but why would you make a more expensive quad core at Intel? The specs here show it cannot stand up to the new six core platform.

      All these prices will come down, of course. So it's fun to look forward to what I'll be using in two years (I just bought a low range quad core for $140 a week ago, almost right in time for this).

      And also, who strayed from the duo- quad- naming methodology?! Are you insane!? Do you have any idea the marketing power that a sexa core chip could have?

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    4. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Pojut · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It is the price you pay for getting the bleeding edge, AMD also has some halo models, but because they cant beat intel in performance, they cant afford to charge $1000 for their high end chips.

      AMDs current flagship costs $195 and is still a heck of a performer. I'll stick with AMD for now.

      lol, anyome remember the horribly overpriced Athlon 64 FX-55?

    5. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Interesting

      AMD also has some halo models, but because they cant beat Intel in performance, they cant afford to charge $1000 for their high end chips.

      FUD, pure FUD. AMD has always been cheaper than Intel. Even back before Intel introduced the Core2 series, when the AMD K2 and Athlon series spanked everything that Intel had to offer. Heck, even back to the days when AMD first entered the mass market (80386 days IIRC), they were the less expensive product. And to date, AMD has arguably always held the performance/$$$ award. Sure, Intel has started gaining a lead (Marginal with C2 series, but significant with the i7 series) in recent times, but AMD isn't THAT far behind. And if you consider that most of the true innovations in CPU design have come from AMD (true multi-core (I mean where there are 4 physical cores on die, not 2 dual core cpus on the die), 64bit, shared L3 cache, on-die memory controller, elimination of the north bridge and hence the system bus, etc), I find it VERY funny that "It is the price you pay for getting the bleeding edge" is applied to the more expensive Intel as opposed to the innovator AMD. Now, I'm not saying that Intel hasn't innovated at all. I'm just saying that the major innovations that the i7 used to surpass the C2 series (Namely the elimination of the system bus, on-die memory controller and the tiered cache architecture) were done first by AMD...

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    6. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Vectormatic · · Score: 2, Insightful

      hey, i never said AMD was more expensive then Intel, and i bet you that if they could charge $1000 for their top end, they would (and they should, milking the high end is the easiest way to recoup dev costs)

      personally i prefer AMD because of their price/performance ratio too, and they have consistently kicked intels but there

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    7. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU?

      Everybody that makes money off the processing power of their computers? Not many hobbyists would spend 1000$ on a camera, but photographers spends thousands. Granted, that's really a workstation market more than a consumer market, but it's not special like ECC RAM, Quatro graphics cards, SAS hard drives or similar server/niche products. If you use the right apps and get a 50% speedup it'll pay for itself in many places. Overall, I don't think it's a really expensive hobby if you want to drive around in a car costing 2000$ less and blow it all on computers. I could afford this one if I wanted to, I just don't see the point. It's so much else I could spent it on and so little extra gain.

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    8. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by petermgreen · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I just took a look at a toms hardware CPU chart ( http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Performance-Index,1407.html ), picked out the intel CPU that came immediately above the AMD CPU you mentioned and looked up the price on newegg ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215&cm_re=i5-750-_-19-115-215-_-Product ) and it was $5 more.

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    9. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by drooling-dog · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Right now I'm using what must be one of the humblest CPUs on Slashdot, an Athlon XP 2500+. That's 1600 MHz of single-core 32-bit goodness. It's served me loyally for years with nary a complaint, and never missed a single day of work.

      It still does almost everything I ask of it, but sometimes does struggle to keep up with HD video. I could help it out by getting a video card that supports VDPAU, but my equally faithful motherboard only has PCI and AGP, so there's not much room for upgrade there.

      So finally it's time to retire them, and their replacements are on the way. The new kids are still pretty humble themselves, just an Athlon II X2 and a cheap AM3 motherboard. With 2GB memory, a grand total of $180. No bragging rights around here, of course, but there's nothing I'm likely to be doing for the next few years that they won't handle easily.

      But here's the thing. I should be excited about bringing in the new regime, but I really feel like I'm spending my last few days with some good old friends. Should there be some kind of ceremony? Is there a computer heaven where they'll be waiting happily for me when I reach the end of my own days, along with my old 286DX25 and AMD K2? What a joyous reunion that will be...

    10. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Khyber · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Rendering farms?"

      Those would be handled by massively parallel GPU clusters, not slower than crap CPUs.

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    11. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by petermgreen · · Score: 3, Informative

      But intel should have kept the 1156 socket around longer. They did jump to socket 1366 really fast
      They didn't jump from 1156 to 1366 at all (1366 is actually older than 1156). They created two different sockets for different markets (and I'm pretty sure there will be a third soon for the new processors with 8 cores, 4 QPI links and seperate memory buffer chips).

      1366 is a socket really designed for dual-socket workstation and server stuff but also used for some high end single processor stuff. 1156 is the mainstream socket.

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    12. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by johnw · · Score: 4, Funny

      but until these come down a long way in terms of price, it is WAY out of my price range

      This is your lucky day. I happen to know where I can get you a pallet of really cheap Intel Core i7 processors, retail boxed, complete with heatsink, fan and a booklet.

    13. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dude make it into a file server or netbox. no reason to toss when KVMs are dirt cheap, I think I paid $24 for my 4 port at Newegg with cables. I am typing this on a Sempron 1.8Ghz with 1.5Gb of RAM, which makes for a whisper quiet netbox/downloader without needing to fire up my quad.

      So don't toss dude, re-purpose. As long as it still runs good and doesn't throw errors there is no reason you can't still get plenty of use out of it as a file server, netbox, or a dedicated box for downloading large files. Just add a nice cheap KVM and you are good to go and you'll be glad you have it, just as I am glad to have this whisper quiet Sempron for checking my email or downloading files at 3AM.

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    14. Re:Nice, but who has $1000 to pay on a CPU? by Zeio · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd buy it on sight if it supported ECC. No ECC support = unstable system. I always have an ECC system, and I always get high "3DMarks" and frame rates and I never get a BSOD or other system errors.

      Without ECC its impossible to know if memory errors are occurring, and 12GB of memory at 1333/1600MHz probably has a single bit event quite often.

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  2. Chips for the Mac Pro refresh I believe. by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I believe this is what's been holding up the Mac Pro refresh, with the top or middle Mac Pro slated to get these as an upgrade from the 4 core ones.

    I think core number is the new MHz. We're not going any faster, but we can just give you more of them, which makes quite a lot of sense. All those FCP render pipelines and encodes just got a lot shorter with th3 12 core Mac Pro.

  3. Cool by Pojut · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now to see what AMDs 6-core offering is like. I know that Intel destroys AMD in performance benchmarks and real-world performance, but AMD is FAR less expensive. If I was pushing an Eyefinity setup or something, then sure, I would go all out and drop a few hundred dollars or more on an Intel CPU. Considering that AMDs current flagship costs $195 and is still a heck of a performer...yeah, I'll stick with AMD for now.

    1. Re:Cool by biryokumaru · · Score: 2, Funny

      If the AMD chip has a higher bang for buck ratio, why not just do the sensible thing and make a beowolf cluster? It's just like have more cores, because you do.

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    2. Re:Cool by beelsebob · · Score: 5, Interesting

      AMD's flagship chip does indeed cost $195, but then, it's about the same speed (as the benchmarks showed) as the Core i5 750, which costs $199. AMD isn't offering better bang for you're buck, they're offering high energy use CPUs with comparable performance to intel's similarly priced CPUs.

      That Phenom II uses 30W more than the Core i5, so it'll cost you about $30 a year more to run, and be less upgradable.

    3. Re:Cool by Pojut · · Score: 4, Interesting

      True, except for when you already have a AM2/AM2+/AM3 board, or a good supply of ddr2 ram. In that case the phenom is a drop in upgrade, versus a platform upgrade for the i5. Also keep in mind that AMD will be releasing 6-core CPUs this year too, and they will fit in any recent AM2+/AM3 board, while for the intel high end stuff, you are locked into their 'premium' 1366 socket.

      This applies to me. I just ordered AMDs 965 Phenom II to replace the Athlon 64 X2 5400+ currently in my AM2+/AM3 Gigabyte board...when the new AMD chipset is widely released with SATA6/USB3 and the price becomes reasonable, I'll order one of those motherboards. Until then, my AMD 785 chipset board will suffice. AMD has always been pretty good about making sure their sockets are versatile, and the AM2+/AM3 boards are the most versatile yet.

      plus i like rooting for the underdog

      This is also a reason why I stick with AMD. They're the only ones producing CPUs that can remotely compete with Intel in the consumer space, yet they are a MUCH smaller company. I like that.

    4. Re:Cool by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Informative

      I know that Intel destroys AMD in performance benchmarks and real-world performance, but AMD is FAR less expensive.
      hmm, are you aware of any good comparisions between the best AMD chips and the best intel chips available at a given price point?

      I tried to do one by taking a look at http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2009-desktop-cpu-charts-update-1/Performance-Index,1407.html, looking up prices on newegg and ingnoring pricessors that are either unavailable at newegg or are more expensive than a faster chip of the same brand and limiting myself to quad core chips I got the following in decreasing order of speed

      Intel Core i7-975 Extreme Edition $969.99
      Intel Core i7-950 $569.99
      Intel Core i7-870 $569.99
      Intel Core i7-920 $288.99
      Intel Core i5-750 $199.99
      AMD Phenom II X4 965 $194.99
      AMD Phenom II X4 955 $160.99
      AMD Phenom II X4 945 $150.99
      Athlon II X4 630 $99.99

      I got bored and stopped after this point

      but while doing it I realised that toms hardware mostly only tests high end stuff so it isn't a very usefull comparision (in partcular there was only one i5 quad core in that list)

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  4. No thanks by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless it's lead with a solid plastic fan, I'm not interested.

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  5. Turbo mode? by Stenchwarrior · · Score: 5, Funny

    After 12 years, I finally have a use for that TURBO button on the front of my case again.

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    1. Re:Turbo mode? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The Turbo Boost mode is present on most of the newer Intel chips. It overclocks one of the cores, while underclocking the others, to give single-threaded apps a boost without exceeding the thermal envelope. It needs some extra support from the OS scheduler, because suddenly you have different cores running at different speeds, which messes up process accounting. As I recall the OS needs to specifically request turbo boost mode, which it does when one process is using all of the CPU time that it is given but other cores are idle.

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    2. Re:Turbo mode? by Cowclops · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thats not how it works. What it actually does is shuts power off to cores that aren't in use, and then overclocks the remaining ones. It won't/can't run different cores at different clock speeds. So if you have a 4 core processor, it might shut off 2 of the cores and then boost the clock speed by up to like 50% depending on what CPU it is, up to the thermal limits of the processor. The "breakthrough" in engineering is the part of the circuit that shuts off power to the unused cores better than anything else has in the past. This essentially gets you the best of both worlds in a single CPU - a lower clocked quad and a higher clocked single/dual core.

  6. Reminds me by gaelfx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This really reminds me of the recent Ask Slashdot article lamenting the naming schemes being implemented for most pieces of hardware. i7= 4 or 6 cores. Makes sense since the first thing I think when I hear 7 is "must be 4 or 6!" And the '980' really goes a long way towards confirming that initial suspicion. I'm really glad they put the 'extreme' in there, cause I was worried about the numbers being too low. Seriously though, can't they come up with a name that is actually descriptive of the product rather than a bunch of reassurances about the awesome-o amazingness of their processor? It seems to me that most people ask someone who knows something about computers when they need to buy a new one or replacement parts for their old one, and I don't know about the rest of you, but I really hate names that give me no real information about what the heck I'm buying. Yes, I can google the information, but the whole practice seems immature (and sometimes a little insulting).

    1. Re:Reminds me by drooling-dog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have to say I'm disappointed too. I wanted to know whether the i{N} naming is N=3,5,7 as in odd numbers or primes. This was going to be the chip that settled that once and for all, because it would be either the i9 or the i11. The mystery lives on.

    2. Re:Reminds me by bdenton42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i7= 4 or 6 cores. Makes sense since the first thing I think when I hear 7 is "must be 4 or 6!"

      Some of the i7 models for mobile use only have 2 cores, just to confuse things even further.

  7. "and be less upgradable." is not true by Visaris · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "and be less upgradable."

    Not true. AMD's platform is much more forward compatible. AMD chips can now run DDR2 or DDR3 depending on what board it's in (Socket AM2/AM2+/AM3). That means that new AMD chips are compatible with 3 socket generations. Intel boards have nowhere near this broad socket and memory compatibility. Even in the same socket, a new chipset is typically required by Intel for new CPUs. This allows Intel to fake that their socket+platform had a compatibility life of 6+ years, when really, it was more like 1 and a half because they released 4 different chipsets with different support in that time frame.

    If you're building your own box, or just want to upgrade later, AMD really gives you a much more flexible route. Here's an example of Intel's mess on their _current_ generation lineup: Core i7 runs on Socket 1156, while a different Core i7 runs on Socket 1366. Socket 1156 is not future-proof and will be dropped in the future. People buying those boards and CPUs might not even notice and will be s.o.l. after the very next generation. That's just silly. AMD's platform is the one with the sane upgrade path. And it's cheaper. I don't get all the AMD hate going around.

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  8. 30 frames in FreeCiv by managementboy · · Score: 2, Funny

    with this one we could get 30 frames out of the html5/javascript version of freeciv!

  9. Parallel apps aren't everything... by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Every time this comes up, someone makes the observation that most apps aren't written to take advantage of multiple cores. That is, indeed true, but unless you're running MS-DOS, there's more to it. On the average Windows and Linux desktop installations, there can easily be twenty or so processes running before you start your first end-user application, and most users tend to have more than one app running at a time. While there is no substitute for purpose-built multi-threaded programs, it's not like those six cores will be sitting idle, especially under Windows, where you could throw an entire core or two at the OS and another couple at the two or three resident antivirus/malware programs that you need to have running to compensate for Windows' broken security model.

    Granted, a lot of end-user apps spend most of their time sleeping, waiting for user input, but a sleeping process runs just as well on one core as on six. For users whose programs are actually doing something most of the time, multiple applications can take advantage of the additional cores even if they are themselves not multithreaded.

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    1. Re:Parallel apps aren't everything... by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Really the point is that this isn't aimed at a typical desktop user. A lot of the applications that this will be used for will easily use 12 threads. I know our 4 core i7 is great for compiling and our project is relatively small. Probably pretty good for rendering as well.