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Speed-Assembling Servers

Nieriko writes "The Planet is holding competitions to speed-assemble rack-mounted servers. It's like watching latter-day Marines field-strip and assemble their weapons. There is a video on YouTube about this incredible contest. Looks pretty challenging."

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  1. Uh yeah... very speedy. by Xest · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "It's like watching latter-day Marines field-strip and assemble their weapons."

    Well no actually, it looked like any normal IT support guy putting a machine back together, except most people don't even fumble and drop the RAM.

    Really, that was fast? I'd be inclined to believe anyone here on Slashdot whose built a machine a few times could do it faster than that. It's not like they even had to build half the machine, the fiddliest components were already in place anyway.

    1. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by ranulf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This task was just pointless. The CPU was already in there, the graphics card, disks, DVD drive etc... Make it a real challenge and actually get them to assemble the machine in order to win a speed-assembling prize.

    2. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by Nesman64 · · Score: 2, Informative

      On top of that, look at the blue snap-in parts. This is a Dell. Hardly a single screw to bother with in there even if he did it from individual parts. Motherboard, drives, fan, even the CPU in many cases, just snaps in place.

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    3. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by QuantumLeaper · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess you should have been in my Intro to Networking class, we had to dig the parts out a room with a lot other junk, get the computer up and running then install the OS. At least it was a group project, but still after 2 motherboards we got it to post, then came the fun trying to get the Network card to work, we when though 6 cards to find one that worked correctly.

    4. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Seriously. Rack mounted server? That was just a regular computer case (Sure, it could be rack mounted, but that kind defeats the point of a rack)... Where's the thermal paste? Not to mention the IDE hard drives (I thought SCSI at first, but that doesn't look like a u320 68 pin (or 80 pin) SCSI, so I can only assume it's IDE...

      The better test would be to give all the parts set on the table along with all the screws. Then time from the first part picked up to the computer booting into a boot CD (to test that everything actually works). For bonus points, chose the parts from a bin (So they would have to select the proper CPU/Mobo combination, etc)...

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    5. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by flosofl · · Score: 4, Informative
      Wow Nierko (the submitter), way to plagiarize BoingBoing. Cory Doctorow used this exact same phrase in his post last night about this event.

      The Planet is holding competitions to speed-assemble rack-mounted servers. It's like watching latter-day Marines field-strip and assemble their weapons.

      Seriously, you couldn't come up with something original?

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    6. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by JWSmythe · · Score: 4, Insightful

          Ya, severely misrepresented.

          The guy installed a CPU and memory into a desktop box, and hooked up a couple cables.

          We used to do real "speed assembling servers". You start out with organized piles of parts from the vendors. Memory, CPU, hard drives, rails, piles of sorted screws. We used a lot of SuperMicro machines, so the motherboards came mounted in their case. Well, originally, it was all from scratch. We just got lazy with the SuperMicro stuff. :) We were probably under 2 minutes, and then just around 5 minutes to get it complete with OS. It was more impressive with two people flowing 10 machines through simultaneously. While you have all your powered up positions full, keep the assembled hardware pool ready to start new installs on.

          All they did was complete the assembled hardware, which looks like they just pulled a little of it apart anyways. They didn't get the OS on the drive, which is kind of essential to call a computer a server. :)

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    7. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by billcopc · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Looked more like an Asus, but yeah... real computers take way longer than that to assemble. This was more like a kindergarten Lego competition. The guy looked like he was one of those Geek Squad half-wits who'd never used a screwdriver his whole life. You want a real competition ? Give them a pile of boxed parts, a screwdriver and a pair of pliers. Timer starts the moment they touch anything.

      As someone who used to run a store and has built tens of thousands of PCs, I had gotten to a point where my entry-level boxes took less than 5 minutes from sale to delivery. That included pulling parts from the shelves, assembling the damned thing, running a short diagnostic suite and putting the finished machine back into the padded box. Gaming rigs took around 20-30 minutes, mostly due to the fiddly drive cages and cable routing. Rack servers can take an hour or more, especially if you're mounting a dozen hard drives on hot-swap sleds and routing all those SAS cables around the absolutely un-ergonomic cases. Obviously there was more testing involved with bigger systems, but the nice thing about the el-cheapo kit was that I could pre-assemble a ton of them over the weekend. The guy in the video ? He'd have assembled me out of business... people aren't buying $3000 PCs anymore, they're buying $299 PCs where your margin is maybe $25, so the tech has to be extremely quick to be worth the money. It's not like you can realistically charge an $80 assembly fee on such a cheap machine.

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    8. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by Hyppy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny thing, the comment on the Marines was Nieriko's, which I assume means that Nieriko is Cory Doctorow's alter ego. Original Boingboing story. Either way, my opinion of Cory just took a nosedive.

    9. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by g0bshiTe · · Score: 2, Funny

      No ESD strap, dropping RAM, mindlessly plugging things in, what's this guys number? I want him working on my servers.

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    10. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by Ephemeriis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The better test would be to give all the parts set on the table along with all the screws.

      In their original packaging.

      I swear... Some of this stuff, it takes longer to get it out of the plastic than it does to build the server.

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    11. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by RulerOf · · Score: 2, Funny

      The better test would be to give all the parts set on the table along with all the screws.

      AND make EVERYONE use the same 50 cent Wal-Mart non-magnetic screwdriver!

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    12. Re:Uh yeah... very speedy. by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not if the faster one screws it up trying to be fast. Call me old-fashioned, but when jockeying hardware, I prefer taking my time, being careful, and wearing a static wrist strap. Not that I can't be fast, I just prefer not to.

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  2. Major disappointment. by wheeda · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lame. I was hoping they were going to assemble a 40U rack. Maybe actually use tools. Maybe a stop watch that works the first time you try to stop it. Lame.

  3. That's not a rack-mounted server by pathological+liar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... and that's not speedy.

    The youtube clip is some knob plugging in ram and an *IDE* disk cable in what appears to be a several-year-old desktop. If any of you can't match that, turn in your computer geek card now...

    1. Re:That's not a rack-mounted server by ircmaxell · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wouldn't match it. Not because I couldn't reach that speed, but because I chose not to. I prefer to take the time to make sure every cable is secure, that each screw goes in straight, not stripped and tight. I take the time to apply thermal grease and make sure it's applied well before carefully placing the heat sink so as not to disturb the grease... I take the time to power the computer up while the case is still apart and on the bench, so that I can verify that all components are working properly before buttoning it up. Sure, doing it fast is nice. It may take twice the time to get it together, but I wonder how much longer it would take you to figure out what's wrong when something doesn't work (including removing the case, and possibly removing components that are blocking the issue)...

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    2. Re:That's not a rack-mounted server by DeWinterZero · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a former Dell Server operator, systems of that type were expected to be built in 8 to 10 minutes from motherboard install, rear fan, processor, heatsink, ram, CD drive(s), floppy drive, harddrive(s)and cards. And a quick test to make sure it boots. And the guy in the video forgot to connect the floppy drive.

    3. Re:That's not a rack-mounted server by BikeHelmet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hey, I take hours building my home PCs - and I enjoy every moment of it. Nothing wrong with that.

      It does take an annoyingly long time to get that default thermal gunk off the heatsink, and replace it with your own. Looks like they skipped over that entirely.

      Without trying, I'd probably do the same stuff this guy did in ~5 minutes. From scratch assembly in 10 mins would be more impressive to me, but I'd probably still do it in 1 or 2 hours, just so I can drool over each and every part as I assemble my new beast. :)

      I'd like to see them assemble a gaming PC instead - but weight quality as well as speed.

      • Aftermarket heatsink - clean that default gunk!
      • Aftermarket GPU heatsinks - use isopropyl or eraser first or they may fall off!
      • Proper cable management - it keeps a lot of dust from settling!
      • etc.
  4. Just an idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Perhaps they should stop fucking about with stuff like this and get rid of the many spammers they have for customers?

  5. Was it just me? by naich · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was I the only one that read his shirt as saying "Herpes without capes" due to the placement of his name tag strap? Oh god, it was just me, wasn't it? I'm sick.

    1. Re:Was it just me? by tom17 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      OK, I admit I had to go look at it again after seeing your comment - just so I could see what it *did* say.

      I read it as herpes, didn't get it, and moved on.

      it makes much more sense now :)

      Tom...

  6. It isn't done right until you are bleeding by Rhacman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe I'm just clumsy but the job isn't truly over until you discover all the cuts on your hands that you didn't realize you made at the time. The ones that have that sort of quantum uncertainty to them in that they don't hurt until you see them for the first time.

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    1. Re:It isn't done right until you are bleeding by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must give blood to the BIOS gods or your PC will not boot when first built.

    2. Re:It isn't done right until you are bleeding by cyphercell · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Your boss is right. If you're really clumsy or doing a lot of work in the cases wear gloves.

      http://www.bestvalsup.com/G-Tek-MaxiFlex-Plus-Gloves-p/pip%2034-846.htm

      I know some folks that have to wear debris masks while dusting out PCs.

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  7. I can get a desktop running Windows in under 15 mi by slaker · · Score: 2, Informative

    I can go from a collection of parts to a desktop running Windows in under 15 minutes using a prepared disk image on a USB stick.

    Servers are actually a bit easier to deal with than that, since the layout is more open. On a Tyan GT20 (a barebones server platform) there's probably about three minutes of work involved in sticking in the CPUs, RAM and hard drives. If I had a prepared disk image for one I could probably get one of those running in 10 - 15 minutes. The hardest part of the whole thing would be getting the machine into the rack.

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  8. Did it work? by trippyd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I would think that any contest for assembling a computer would involve actually turning the computer on to test if you did it right.

  9. Re:Not impressed by leuk_he · · Score: 2, Funny

    300 racks, Blindfolded, while answering phones from angry users asking why their server is down, and being chased by 2 service managers who do have a bet running on you.

    I will see your raise...

  10. This is stupid by jgreco · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We build servers here. First rule is that if you hurry, you're likely to screw something up and end up needing to fix something down the road. The hour of downtime and cost of replacement parts later is not worth any up-front savings in time.

    Building a server starts with a bare metal chassis (not just plugging in a few snap-in components to a prebuilt). Integrate your power supply, install system board, from there of course it gets dependent on the specifics... but if you're not spending a fair bit of time trying to be neat, tying your cables down, thinking about how to route the cables for airflow, custom-building cables to fit odd needs, tightening screws with the right torque, and all of that, then you're not really doing a good job. Rack mount servers are especially sensitive to the skills of the designer and builder.

    Your rack mount server will end up in a rack somewhere where it may not be pulled out for another five years. There may not be a "second chance" to fix it if you rush through building it - it becomes someone else's problem, perhaps, but they won't be thanking you for it.

  11. Re:Jeebus. by Hyppy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't take much to impress you, does it?

  12. latter-day marines? by bunhed · · Score: 5, Informative

    "It's like watching latter-day Marines field-strip and assemble their weapons."

    umm...no, it was not like that at all. It was more like watching a guy plug in a usb cable.

  13. Assembly is already the fast/easy part. by RapmasterT · · Score: 2, Insightful

    fast server assembly? BFD. Servers come already assembled. If you want to wow me, show me a challenge where the guy racks, cables it per standards, labels the server properly, labels the cables, sets the switch port vlans, updates the CMDB, etc. You know, does the WHOLE thing, not just the easy part.

  14. Re:Rack Mounting by vlm · · Score: 2

    Sure, it isn't as fiddly, but when you have 40 of them to do all at once... you tend to get good at it.

    And it can become a very visual explanation of the "off by one" software bug.

    You can also do some pretty good slapstick comedy by installing one heavy rail mounted server in a new empty rack, pull the heavy server out on the rails to test them, then dodge the tipping over rack. You did anchor the rack to the floor and overhead first, right?

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