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Google Slams Viacom For Secret YouTube Uploads

An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from Reuters: "Google, Inc. accused Viacom, Inc. of secretly uploading its videos to YouTube even as the media conglomerate publicly denounced the online video site for copyright infringement, according to court documents made public on Thursday." As "statements from the corporate counsel's office" go, this post on the YouTube blog is pretty hot reading.

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  1. Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Google has become quite outspoken. I guess they are big enough that they do not have to scratch anyone's back anymore. I like this approach - Google has the power to change people's perceptions of companies (and countries) seeing as how they do control a large chunk of the flow of information on the Internet.

  2. Re:Viacom - the verb by c++0xFF · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I think it's worse than that:

    For years, Viacom continuously and secretly uploaded its content to YouTube, even while publicly complaining about its presence there. It hired no fewer than 18 different marketing agencies to upload its content to the site. It deliberately "roughed up" the videos to make them look stolen or leaked. It opened YouTube accounts using phony email addresses. It even sent employees to Kinko's to upload clips from computers that couldn't be traced to Viacom.

    It seems that Viacom purposefully uploaded these files to invalidate the whole concept of YouTube. "See how much of our stuff is uploaded! They can't filter it out! They have to be shut down!"

    It's almost like dumping a much of random nails in the street and then suing the government for not cleaning the streets properly.

    This article is definitely worth reading.

  3. Re:Viacom - the verb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems that Viacom purposefully uploaded these files to invalidate the whole concept of YouTube. "See how much of our stuff is uploaded! They can't filter it out! They have to be shut down!"

    Nope. Viacom realized the value of marketing their shows on youtube, which HELPS VIACOM MAKE MONEY. By having lots of people uploading clips of their favorite shows, it boosts the popularity & coolness of the show.

    Since this was a secret astroturf project, Viacom had to have their regular DMCA people prowl youtube to remove the clips.

    This is not unlike payola, where a record label pays a radio station to promote sales of music. Except without the payment. Maybe I need a car analogy...

  4. Re:Three cheers for good writing by bmo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Off Topic, but whatever. If a mod wants to waste his points on this post, go right ahead. I maxed out on karma a decade ago.

    English 101 doesn't teach you how to write.

    I have never ever had an English class where I was taught how to write. It was always by the seat of my pants. All writing in high school was geared at writing the "term paper" resulting in my complete inability to write anything but the most boring, stultifying, coma-inducing drek on the planet. Indeed, we were taught something called the "term paper method." The only thing this taught me is that I could never have an original opinion unless I could cite someone else saying it, parrot it, and leave a listing in the bibliography.

    This left me literate but crippled.

    None of it was geared to how I could express myself. I had to be out of school for 5 years for that to happen; writing every day in the Marquis De Sade school of writing known as BBS networks (Fight-O-Net) hanging out in the debate oriented message bases. I can also credit the local BBSes that had things like "The Never Ending Story."

    When I did eventually go back to school, I took College Writing and found all I had to do was defenstrate some bad habits to get an A on a paper. Thanks Fidonet!

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    BMO

  5. Re:Smells like bullshit by QuoteMstr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The old saying goes, "never get into argument with someone who buys ink by the barrel."

    Maybe we should update it to say: never get into an argument with someone who writes programs that run on whole data centers.

  6. Google rising. What does Viacom stand to gain? by Teunis · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think Google's figured out that for a company where information is it's primary commodity (and trading in such), that the free flow of information is in its best interest. Basically the gains they'd make over taking ownership of data the hold would cost them too many of their own customer base. Being trusted, basically, is good for their business model.
    As long as that's remembered, Google's movements are actually pretty predictable.

    I don't see what Viacom has to gain over this, long term.

  7. Re:The very definition of unclean hands by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If these allegations are true, it is the very definition of unclean hands...

    Sounds like typical marketing/advertising companies. Apparently they do this all the time with the TV stations, trying to find any reason not to pay for the commercial, even though it was aired.

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