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Every British Citizen To Have a Personal Webpage

Hugh Pickens writes "The Telegraph reports that British Prime Minister Gordon Brown is about to announce that within a year everyone in Great Britain will be given a personalized webpage for accessing Government services as part of a plan to save billions of pounds by putting all public services online. The move could see the closure of job centers and physical offices dealing with tax, vehicle licensing, passports and housing benefits within 10 years as services are offered through a single digital gateway. [This] 'saves time for people and it saves money for the Government — the processing of a piece of paper and mailing it back costs many times more than it costs to process something electronically,' says Tim Berners-Lee, an advisor to the Prime Minister. However, the proposals are coming under fire from union leaders who complain that thousands of public sector workers would be made jobless and pointed to the Government's poor record of handling personal data. 'Cutting public services is not only bad for the public who use services but also the economy as we are pushing people who provide valuable services on the dole,' says one union leader."

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  1. Surveillance. by daniel.waterfield · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It also makes us nice and easy to keep an eye on. All our activity now leaves a nice little easy to follow trail. Much nicer for the government to follow than before.

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    1. Re:Surveillance. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      With suitably malicious design, it could be a very convenient tool for surveillance(a visited link scanner seeded with a list of URLs that the feds might be interested in your having visited, would be a trivial example, various sorts of cookie snooping, cross-site scripting, history inference, and so forth attacks could also be used, in addition to boring old IP geolocation and date/timestamping).

      However, in absence of these sorts of fairly overt malicious features(which would fly right past the noobs; but would be hard to hide from security researchers for more than a few minutes), I'm not sure that a move from a paper 'n civil servants based frontend to a web based frontend actually makes all that much difference. In both cases, you are doing some nontrivial data dump/exchange with the state, either because some law obliges you to, or because you want the state to do something for you based on that information. That act of data transfer is the point of the exercise, and occurs in either case. Also, unless the British civil service is far behind the times, the data end up being dumped in a big database somewhere no matter which frontend you use. It isn't as though a people and paper frontend implies a people and paper backend, just a more expensive translation process.

      With the exception of fairly visible malicious techniques, a web site doesn't provide all that much useful information in itself. Any attempt by the state to use such techniques should, of course, by resisted fiercely by both technological and political means; but fretting about cookies is largely a distraction from the serious area of data disclosure, which is whatever forms you are going to the website explicitly to fill out.

    2. Re:Surveillance. by selven · · Score: 5, Funny

      people with the most powerful memes... lining the streets, chanting "El Pueblo unido jamas sera vencido!"

      Nah, they'll be chanting "Yo puedo tiene cheezburger"*

      *Amazingly, Google Translate understands it perfectly

  2. What? by AnonGCB · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did anyone else think this was talking about the British Government reinstating a nationalized Geocities?

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  3. It's about time by Katatsumuri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The amount of paperwork and legwork to get anything government-related done is untolerable in this day and age. We should have been enjoying electronic government for at least 15 years by now. Finally someone up there is getting it.

    Now half of the posts here will be about the stupid "personal webpage" phrasing that has nothing to do with the actual idea, and the other half will be about an Orwellian apocalypse. Which may be well-grounded, as British government earned some bad reputation in regards to privacy.

    However, I would still argue that this is a step in the right direction, and it is inevitable in the long run. We as a technical community should suggest ways to protect privacy with proper modern protocols, not with the obscurity of 18th century style paperwork.

    I also hope that the governments in other countries will follow the example.

  4. Re:A computer for all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually yes. They already are. If you are on low income you can apply for a grant to buy both a laptop AND internet connection.

    Of course, you'll have to visit your personal webpage to apply for this, as the physical offices will be closing.

  5. Re:people who provide "valuable services"? by jabithew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, to quote Yes Minister;

    Sir Humphrey: It sets a dangerous precedent.
    Jim Hacker: What, you mean if we do the right thing now we might have to do it again later?

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  6. We have this in Norway already.. by hyfe · · Score: 5, Informative

    We have a single website for this in Norway already (norge.no), it's bloody usefull. Everything you need from the government is either there, or linked to from it. They even run free phone/sms/e-mail support.

    There's nothing sinister about it, it certainly hasn't magically removed the bourecrazy, but it is another of the many small reasons I'm slightly smug to be norwegian; The land where stuff for the most part just works (which still doesn't stop people from whining though).

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