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Bad BitDefender Update Clobbers Windows PCs

alphadogg writes "Users of the BitDefender antivirus software started flooding the company's support forums Saturday, apparently after a faulty antivirus update caused 64-bit Windows machines to stop working. The company acknowledged the issue in a note explaining the problem. 'Due to a recent update it is possible that BitDefender detects several Windows and BitDefender files as infected with Trojan.FakeAlert.5,' the company said. The acknowledgment came after BitDefender users had logged hundreds of posts on the topic. Some complained of being unable to reboot their systems."

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  1. How Appropriate by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Valid files detected as "FakeAlert"? Wow, irony DOES go a long way.

  2. So secure, NOTHING will run by Hansele · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its a new security paradigm. The newly locked down computer will not run anything, and therefore no virii, malware, bots, or solitaire, will run. Truly they've created the "most secure antivirus ever".

    1. Re:So secure, NOTHING will run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who has the most secure OS now? Take THAT Linux and Mac fanboys!

  3. Or maybe... by Hansele · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or maybe they should have put up a payment screen on their site, "We're sorry, your antivirus subscription has expired. To prevent your computer from being exposed to malware and virii, we have taken the proactive step of disabling your computer until you have made payment. For the low renewal fee plus a small reactivation fee of $199, we will be happy to walk you through the re-enablement process. Have a nice secure day!"

    1. Re:Or maybe... by vbraga · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not a native speaker, but from alt.usage.english FAQ:

      Not all Latin words ending in "-us" had plurals in "-i". "Apparatus", "cantus", "coitus", "hiatus", "impetus", "Jesus", "nexus", "plexus", "prospectus", and "status" were 4th declension in Latin, and had plurals in "-us" with a long "u". "Corpus", "genus", and "opus" were 3rd declension, with plurals "corpora", "genera", and "opera". "Virus" is not attested in the plural in Latin, and is of a rare form (2nd declension neuter in -us) that makes it debatable what the Latin plural would have been; the only plural in English is "viruses". "Omnibus" and "rebus" were not nominative nouns in Latin. "Ignoramus" was not a noun in Latin.

      Emphasis mine.

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  4. Re:Update Filter / Schedule by KarmaMB84 · · Score: 3, Informative

    BitDefender is a third party anti-virus package.

  5. what incompetent boobs by FudRucker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    you would think they would at least test updates on a few different systems (including the 64 bit systems) before releasing it to customers

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    1. Re:what incompetent boobs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let me answer in the manner of a hammer legion member poster on a Steam forum:

      Wrks fine 4 me. Must b ur computer. loL!! Time 2 upgrade.

    2. Re:what incompetent boobs by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, Windows NT version numbers have gone 3.11, 4, 2000, 2003, 7, so the upgrade from 64-bit Windows must be... -512 bit Windows?

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  6. I see a market for a new product: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anticlobber software. To protect your computer against misbehaving antivirus software.

  7. Trusting your AV too far... by runward · · Score: 4, Informative

    This happened to me, too... bitdefender would flag nearly any file, and it first flagged a file that I had just updated, so I was genuinely concerned. The next file is flagged, however, was usbstor.sys, so I knew the AV was probably wrong.

    Some people were running virus scans... tens of thousands of false detection, and all of the files were quarantined or deleted... it was a really bad situation for many. I'm not sure how non-technical users fared.

    I use bitdefender on my computer only - I like the aggressive detection capabilities and reporting options. However, no one else in my house wants to know what their AV is doing - they just want it to work - and bitdefender is probably the worst option for them.

  8. Re:This happened to me by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is why I use and would recommend Comodo Time Machine as it gives you a nice little screen before boot where you just hit the home key and can restore your machine from snapshot before the little boo boo. And if the Bitdefender burn has turned you off of them I would try Comodo AV/Firewall from the same company. Both are free, no nags or need to register, and I have been running it on both 32 and 64 bit XP and Windows 7.

    Note-not affiliated with the company, just a humble PC repairman that has tried just about every AV and security software out there and found Comodo to be the best all around. I have been running them on XP X64 for a couple of years now and never had any show stoppers like this. In fact the only problem I've ever seen with a Comodo product is you can't run Time Machine in a dual boot with Windows 7 and XP because 7 changes drive letters, but even then there wasn't any hangup or problems, it simply wouldn't install.

    But if your machine is running a single OS Time Machine can keep problems like TFA from happening. I have had family members bork their machines beyond booting and with Time Machine I was able to walk them through restoring from snapshot in under 15 minutes. hell of a lot better than a multi-hour reinstall.

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  9. Re:Update Filter / Schedule by Rivalz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thats the motto of my life my friend.

  10. How many times does this happen? by khasim · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And why hasn't the "security industry" started to validate hashes and signatures and checksums on KNOWN GOOD FILES yet?

    Seriously. Identifying the safe files is easier than identifying the infected ones.

    1. Re:How many times does this happen? by Nadaka · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Sure.
      It is called trusted computing.
      But who is the gatekeeper of trust?
      In order to only allow "KNOWN GOOD FILES" you need a white-list.
      That means that no mere user is going to be write his own software.
      That means that small software producers are going to have to go through an arduous and prohibitively expensive vetting process in order to be white-listed.
      In practice this means that only Microsoft and its partners will be able to produce software for your pc at a reasonable price.
      This could even mean that user generated data files are not trusted and therefor not allowed, making the pc a device for consuming content.
      Perhaps the user could produce content remotely through software as a service providers, who would either charge highly or claim ownership rights to your content.

      Sounds really nice to you?

  11. The cure is worse than the disease by FoolishOwl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the things that precipitated my move to Linux was the way Kaspersky -- at the time, the top-rated security suite -- was shutting down my LAN. There were lots of posts on the official forums complaining about the problem, a handful of useless responses from users guessing at which part of the suite might be the source of the problem, and about which of the undocumented menu options might disable that part of the suite, and one short, incomprehensible message from one of the developers, suggesting they were looking into the problem, from several months before.

    My experience with security software for Windows is that they bog down the operating system, disable basic features of the operating system without warning, and cause frequent crashes -- the very problems that they warn malicious software may cause. Simply put, malicious software *may* cause problems for Windows, but most third-party security software *will*.

    To Microsoft's credit, they finally sealed some of the fundamental security holes with Vista and Windows 7, and they offer a decent security suite for free, so there's really no longer any reason to buy one of these wretched third-party security suites.

    On the whole, though, you'll still get better security by switching to Linux, or at least Mac OS X.

    1. Re:The cure is worse than the disease by Teun · · Score: 3, Funny

      To Microsoft's credit, they finally sealed some of the fundamental security holes with Vista and Windows 7, and they offer a decent security suite for free,

      You have an amusing way of explaining how MS applied a (yet to be proven) band-aid to their self-inflicted wounds.

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