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Ubuntu's "Lucid Lynx" Enters Beta

ActionDesignStudios writes "The upcoming release of Ubuntu, titled 'Lucid Lynx,' has just entered the beta cycle. Alongside the usual desktop and server versions, a special version has been released that is designed to run on Amazon's EC2 cloud service. This release of Ubuntu does away with the brown 'Human' Gnome theme we've all become accustomed to, replaced by a new version Canonical says is inspired by light. The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook, among others."

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  1. Using it since Alpha 1 by Aphoxema · · Score: 4, Informative

    I really like what I see, but it is a little... counter-intuitive that they not only put the window controls on the left side of windows but put them in order of Maximize-Minimize-Close. No matter, I have everything maximized all the time anyways and on my Wind I've been using Maximus with Window-Picker-Applet.

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    1. Re:Using it since Alpha 1 by da+cog · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Pure speculation, but it could be that their goal is to order the window buttons in *increasing* order of their impact on the window, so that the easiest to click button merely resizes the window rather than of taking it away or destroying it. This arguably makes more sense then the OSX interface where the easiest button to click of the three is the one that gets rid of your window.

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    2. Re:Using it since Alpha 1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No. Their goal is to teach everyone to learn about gconftool.

    3. Re:Using it since Alpha 1 by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As long as I can easily switch it back to how it currently is, I don't really care. I'm not sure what the reasoning is behind the switch besides pissing off current users.

      At a guess, the hype over the past few years has convinced Canonical to try to become the Apple of the Linux world.

      It's not working (much like my sound card for the past 4 versions of Ubuntu...)

  2. I remember back when it was smaller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Several gigs seems a bit bloated for a text based browser, but I'll give it a try.

  3. Used it for a few days.. by s0litaire · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... and I like it!
    Boot times are FAST on my laptop down to 27s (85s booting on 9.04)

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  4. I'm using Lucid Lynx Beta... by oldmeddler · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...right now. I like it fine, though some changes (moving windows controls to the left side, took a bit of getting used to. The purple scheme sucks but is easy enough to change. There is still a problem with running a fixed IP, or at least there is some trick to making it work properly that I haven't learned yet. It does seem to boot a bit faster, but fast boot times are of little importance to someone who typically runs his computer 24/7. So far, I see no significant improvements, but more importantly, no noticeable degradations, yet.

  5. Re:Window Buttons by iris-n · · Score: 4, Informative

    They're mostly complaining about the ubuntu devs: "Don't these these devs have anything else to do, other than toy with the placement of window buttons?"

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  6. Ubuntu One-liner of the Year: 2010 by Statecraftsman · · Score: 5, Funny

    gconftool-2 --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout --type string menu:minimize,maximize,close

    1. Re:Ubuntu One-liner of the Year: 2010 by fm6 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're obviously not a Linux person. If you were, you'd know that the most important feature of a GUI is the icon that opens a command line window.

  7. Re:Window Buttons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Don't these these bloggers have anything else to do, other than obsess over the placement of window buttons?

    Ubuntu is the mainstream Linux GUI and it uses windows to display applications. The way in which windows are controlled matters a great deal. As Shuttleworth says it's not a democracy and he can choose, but all software has users and if they're not convinced that changes are made for the best reasons then of course they're going to do what they're allowed to do: talk about it.

    This change hasn't been justified on any grounds. It puts the 'Close' button near the 'File' menu and other drop-downs which makes it easier to misclick and close applications. It's not a common layout across WIMP GUIs. It's an unnecessary and pointless variation on what people expect.

    (Which can be very easily reverted back to original way)

    Very easily? So it's a multichoice box somewhere in the GUI then?

    The non-easy solution was to modify or make a gconf key. Is that really the easy way of doing it?

  8. Followin Lucid Lynx will be... by EreIamJH · · Score: 4, Funny

    Masturbating Monkey

  9. Re:Slow News Day? by Again · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OMGZZZ!!! Lucid Lynx enters beta!!! is slashdot having a slow news day today?

    Ubuntu enters beta every six months. It's news for those of us who like beta-testing Ubuntu.

    Just because a story appears on Slashdot front page does not mean that you have to click "Read More" and then have to come up with something to comment. Go ahead and skip an article if you don't find it interesting. No seriously, go ahead. No one is going to stop you. You won't get an achievement saying "Did not comment on articlezor!".

  10. Re:Lucid what? by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm more enthused by their upcoming Masturbating Monkey release in October.

  11. One step forward, two steps back by Judinous · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a big fan of Ubuntu, and I mostly run Ubuntu Server or Debian machines for my personal desktop usage. However, their habit of catastrophically breaking important features in their releases is really getting on my nerves. Wi-fi support, for example, has been fixed and re-broken repeatedly over the past few years. I think that this release takes the cake when it comes to breaking existing functionality, though. The first two known issues listed for 10.04:

    #Because of the new alternatives system used for nvidia driver packages, the nvidia installer from NVIDIA's website currently doesn't work.
    #The fglrx binary driver for ATI video chipsets does not yet support the X server in Lucid. As a workaround, users should use the open source -ati driver instead.

    Both of these are pretty much show-stoppers, especially the ATI issue. Is a month long enough to sort out a problem this serious?

    1. Re:One step forward, two steps back by Aphoxema · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Both of these are pretty much show-stoppers, especially the ATI issue. Is a month long enough to sort out a problem this serious?

      They've probably been planning around this longer than a month already. Anyways, as for ATI, x.org shouldn't have to plan around ATI's schedule, especially with their history of support.

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  12. What I want to know is ... by ScrewMaster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook

    Why should an operating system "integrate" with a social networking service?

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    1. Re:What I want to know is ... by Again · · Score: 4, Informative

      The new release also includes much better integration with social networking services such as Twitter, identi.ca and Facebook

      Why should an operating system "integrate" with a social networking service?

      Ubuntu provides not just the Linux operating system but also the package of applications that they deem people may find useful. Applications which provide social networking integration will be put to use for a lot of people so they are included.

    2. Re:What I want to know is ... by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 5, Funny

      My fstab is stored in twitter status messages you insensitive clod!

  13. Re:Music Store by Kitkoan · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was excited about the Ubuntu One Music Store but then I found out it is gimped in Canada: indie artists only. So once again record labels keep my money out of their pockets! ;)

    It's to make sure mistakes like Celine Dion are avoided again.

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  14. About those crazy buttons by steveha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As I have already commented, I think this is a horrible idea. Windows is not going to change its window buttons, I have to use Windows, and I dread this change. And, if you have to put the buttons on the left, the most-commonly-used button (the Close button) should be in the left corner, so that in the common case where I have a maximized window, it's easier to hit.

    I went ahead and read through Mark Shuttleworth's comments about the bug. In summary: they want to try some new cool stuff, they want to shake things up and not be bound by the past, they have some ideas (not described) for ways to use the right-hand side of the menu bar. (He was even talking about moving the scroll bar away from the right side of the window, on the grounds that few people use it, and scroll wheels/touchscreen interfaces are becoming the big new thing. This doesn't give me the warm fuzzies either.) They are shipping the beta like this to see what actual reactions are to this idea.

    I went ahead and listened to the podcast also (the relevant bit starts around 0:39 into the podcast). Ivanka Majic said many things, but IMHO did not adequately explain why they think this is a good idea. Some vague comments about how they are actually testing things. She said many commendable things, such as talking about how new users can find it really hard to even understand just what Ubuntu is. And she said something that sounded like her department was behind the "papercuts" project, of which I firmly approve. But if you are trying to understand what the heck is going on with those crazy buttons, you can skip the podcast.

    So, if (like me) you dread these new buttons, the best thing you could possibly do is to actually get a copy of the Ubuntu beta and try it out; then post, not just opinions, but informed opinions supported by personal experience. "I tried to click on the Edit menu and closed my window" (if that actually happens to you) should be much more persuasive than "I looked at your screen shot and I can already tell I hate it".

    By the way, check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1430585

    So, I'm planning to download the Ubuntu Beta ISO image, and install it (possibly in VirtualBox), and try the thing out. Then I will add my voice to those commenting on the new buttons.

    steveha

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  15. Why do people like Ubuntu? by petrus4 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know this is going to seem like trolling, but humour me here. What is it, that people honestly see in this distribution?

    I used both Jaunty and Intrepid; Jaunty for probably two months. I've been using Linux for 15 years now, and I honestly feel that Ubuntu was, without any hyperbole, the single worst Linux distribution that I've ever seen. I absolutely hated it.

    Why? Sound (ALSA) dropping out randomly and continually, kernel panics from nVidia drivers, and the completely non-orthagonal design, with Gnome being hard-welded to the rest of the system, were the three main reasons. I don't like Gnome at all, and when I tried to remove it, rapidly found that I couldn't. I generally use Ratpoison in either Linux or FreeBSD.

    Then there's the horrid mess that is upstart, and the usual Debian tendency to change absolutely everything they can, purely for the hell of it, such that even basic things like setting up an fstab for the most part doesn't work. Hard drives get mounted some other way, that I wasn't able to find. Add to that, the "quiet splash," options in GRUB, which remove the ability to debug a faulty installation, leading to the infamous "black screen of death." I honestly felt that the overall design was seriously less transparent than Windows; and if I started really trying to change things, the entire system very rapidly started to fall apart.

    Are people really so superficial, that a nice shiny Gnome theme (for the first few minutes before the system dies, at least) is the only thing that is considered important?

    1. Re:Why do people like Ubuntu? by Compaqt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      After Redhat mismanaged the discontinuation of RedHat Linux in favor of an enterprise focus, many people started fishing around for a replacement default Linux. (Yes, I know Redhat still has a desktop product, but the impression people got was that Redhat was going totally corporate.)

      Add to that the legendary (even promised) instability of Fedora, which is explicitly and without apology presented as a testing vehicle.

      In comes Ubuntu with the Circle of Friends imagery, the Ubuntu code of conduct, the word ubuntu itself ("open and available to others"), and the promise of "Linux for Human Beings".

      The rapid growth of Ubuntu to #1 on Distrowatch was propelled by evangelism done by the same power users whose opinions are apparently not worth being listened to anymore.

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    2. Re:Why do people like Ubuntu? by dancingmilk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Kubuntu works great for those folks that don't care for Gnome. Perhaps you should try it before going all apeshit on the distro and complaining about it.

      5 seconds of research on Google shows how to use Ubuntu without Gnome. /sigh