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Netflix Streaming Arrives For the Wii

Grant,thompson writes "As announced in January and mentioned here on Slashdot, Netflix is sending out discs today to enable streaming on the Nintendo Wii. 'Netflix has sent out emails to customers who pre-ordered the Wii's instant streaming disc, indicating that the disc will arrive in mailboxes tomorrow, and that the service will likely start within the next day.'"

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  1. Not to sounds like a video snob ... by jsnipy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    But without any hope of HD, whats the point?

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    1. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Goblez · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Now my kids can watch their Cartoons downstairs while I stream HD on my XBox upstairs. Sounds like a win for me.

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    2. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not everyone has an HD tv... I don't, but I do have a Wii. As a result, I'm excited about streaming on the Wii.

    3. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Commander+South · · Score: 0

      Well, at least in my situation, the Wii is in the living room on the non HD tv my parents have for when we play. So it works out great for us. I say if it can do it, why not. That and I know some people who only have a Wii...

    4. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 2

      No HD capability in my house anyway, so streaming "old fashoned resolution" stuff to my old fashioned tube tv (won't be replaced until it dies...) is fine with me...

      Of course, I've not put our Wii on hte 'net yet - don't need to, got kids to worry about with it... and my DSL service tends to die while waiting for PADO packets...

      I'm constantly impressed by the bandwidth a rural mail carrier's truck full of netflix dvds provide anyway :)

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    5. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      But without any hope of HD, whats the point?

      Guess what? Lots of people don't own HDTVs, but like to watch movies and already own a Wii.

    6. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Ephemeriis · · Score: 1

      But without any hope of HD, whats the point?

      Most of the stuff I watch these days is not HD.

      Most of my movies are standard definition DVDs. I have a single TV in my house that can do HD... But, aside from the occasional HD television program, have nothing HD to watch on it.

      Most of the stuff I get from Netflix is older titles that, frankly, are more like VHS quality than DVD.

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    7. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by cbope · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, because DVD-quality is so crap.

      I mean come on, I play Faroudja upscaled DVD (PAL 576i) on my 40" 1080p HDTV and from my sofa 15 feet away it looks great. Blu-ray only looks a bit sharper thanks to the distance. Just because it's not HD doesn't mean it's useless.

    8. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 1

      If you're on a 40"(give or take, 40" is for me, for others it might be 32" or 46") or smaller set, what's the difference?

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    9. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by maugle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Philistine. I bet you aren't even using $100 Monster-brand premium gold-plated HDMI connectors for optimal signal quality and maximum color-accuracy and sharpness!

    10. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1
      http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3161833

      The lack of awareness (or interest) isn't limited to movie watching, either -- and here's where you should start paying attention for an idea on how the mass market will respond in the next few years. Only 30% of Xbox 360 owners were aware of the HD graphics capabilities of the machine, whereas that number rises to 50% with PS3. Considering the inclusion of a cheap Blu-ray player in the PS3, that's not so surprising, but, either way, a startling number of "HD gamers" don't know about -- or don't care about -- HD.

      I think you'll find there are still huge numbers of people without HD TV as there hasn't been a reason for most people to get it. I'm sure both the 360 and PS3 are helping increase that. The PS3 more so because of blu-ray but considering more people own a Wii than any other console, it's quite safe to say that most people still don't care about HD TV so Netflix doesn't really have to worry.

      I like HD, it's awesome, but I (like a lot of people on this site) aren't normal people so while hearing everyone on Slashdot talk about HD TV might make it sound like it's a big thing in actual fact it's not.

    11. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      Most of their stuff is SD with a few "HD" videos coming in at 720p. Chances are you didn't buy a Wii for its media center capabilities. That's what the 360 and PS3 are for. I use my 360 more as a media box than a gaming console.

    12. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by eln · · Score: 1

      I have a 37" 1080p TV, and with component cables the Wii can do 480p (as opposed to the default 480i with the included cables). The difference between 480p and 480i isn't huge, but it's noticeable, at least on my TV. The Wii games look nice and crisp, although they could possibly look fuzzy on a larger HDTV. So, it's not going to give you the full HD experience, but DVDs max out at (IIRC) 720p anyway, so you aren't getting the full HD experience with Netflix regardless unless you've been paying the extra $4 a month for Blu Ray.

      At any rate, I pre-ordered the Wii disk and I'm glad they finally released it. I didn't really want to buy another game console or some specialized device just for streaming Netflix movies, and this will be much more convenient than watching them on my laptop.

    13. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by sopssa · · Score: 3, Funny

      DVD-quality is not crap, but frankly I do rather watch in HD quality. I have a 50" TV and better HDMI connectors (studio quality, cost like $100.. but for me it's worth it) from PS3 to it and it's clear how much better HD quality is.

    14. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by snowraver1 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have a 50" TV and better HDMI connectors (studio quality, cost like $100..

      You are about to be rediculed until you create a new account.

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    15. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

      My PS3 can stream in 720p when Netflix offers a video at that resolution. Not everything is offered at that resolution (yet?). Otherwise I am in 480p/480i anyways. Secondly, the point is that anything that streams is meant to supplement what comes in the mail. It is not meant to replace it. Things like old TV shows and movies may not have been shot in HD, either. As others have pointed out, not everyone has a HDTV, or at least a their Wii is not hooked up to one. Not everyone has broadband that plays nice with HD bandwidth requirements. Not everyone has a laptop, spare computer, Xbox 360, PS3 or Roku, etc to stream in better resolution. If you have not gathered by now, there are many reasons and points to the Wii streaming. Not to mention that many people (read children, elders & non-technophiles) do not need HD to be satisfied.

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    16. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Aeros · · Score: 1

      this is streaming netflix..your not going to get HD anyway

    17. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahaha, I guess you think there is a difference in quality between one HDMI connector/cable and another, huh? Digital is digital, bro. There is no signal loss.

    18. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by KlomDark · · Score: 1

      You done got suxx0red on the high end HDMI cables, boy.

    19. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Wrong, there is signal loss in digital. However, you are also right. Once you lose enough signal that you can no longer decode the digital data, your video becomes instantly unwatchable.

      Therefore, if you needed a long enough HDMI cable, as the voltage drops enough from the transmitter to the receiver, you'd start seeing the difference between low quality and high quality cables in that the good cables would work and the others would cut out frequently or not work at all.

      Not picking on you per se, but as long as we're going to educate people on why they shouldn't waste money on expensive snake oil, we should explain it correctly.

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    20. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hear that square-wave signals look WAY better when they travel through way-overpriced copper rather than inexpensive copper. You can totally tell the difference!

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    21. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      That article is from 2007, before the end of the HDDVD/Blu Ray war. I would imagine those numbers are double today.

    22. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hi, I work at a studio -- its name starts with an "S" and its parent used to make rice steamers before it moved into electronics and spider-related comic book movies. I have a $10 HDMI cable from Monoprice.

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    23. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by ocdude · · Score: 1

      Of course, I've not put our Wii on hte 'net yet - don't need to, got kids to worry about with it...

      The Wii has parental controls, and the way they handle multiplayer online stuff anyway, there is pretty much no way for people to contact other people using the Wii online.

    24. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      DVD-quality? Netflix streaming? Not so much :)

      But that does make a point - why worry about HD Netflix streaming when their SD has plenty of room for improvement first...

    25. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Toonol · · Score: 1

      You realize that Netflix does a lot of business with something called "DVDs", right?

    26. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      I work in a TV studio. As far as I'm aware, we don't have a single device that uses HDMI as an interconnect.

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    27. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Shatrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Once you lose enough signal that you can no longer decode the digital data, your video becomes instantly unwatchable.

      While we're nitpicking, this isn't necessarily true. There is such a thing as Bit Error Rate and you can have some in a digital signal and still have a usable signal. It might not even be noticeable. If a 24 bit color is off by the least significant bit for one frame on one pixel would you see it? It's an oversimplified example really, but I hope you get my point. On the other hand, a little bit of nasty on an OC192 can drop every cell call in 100 miles.

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    28. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by geekoid · · Score: 3, Informative

      "(studio quality, cost like $100.. but for me it's worth it)"
      WTF? on /.? /. needs to have a test before giving out user IDs.

      I Paid 2 dollars and 5 cents for my shielded 1.3b HDMI cables, and that included shipping. There is no difference between these and yours. I can go to Amazon and get 1.4 for 3 dollars.

      Sucker.

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    29. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by AuMatar · · Score: 1

      WHat's the point of HD? Its not worth buying a whole new TV for. I have a nice 53 inch SDTV, not upgrading to HD until that breaks. That'll likely be in the late half of the decade, if not next decade.

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    30. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by kimvette · · Score: 1

      and better HDMI connectors (studio quality, cost like $100.. but for me it's worth it

      Bits is bits. I paid less for what are probably BETTER HDMI cables at Monoprice, because I understand that Monster and similar brands sell snake oil.

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    31. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meh. I have three high def sets at home. My largest one is a 650 series sammy. If the source isn't blu-ray or Netflix, chances are I have it tuned to a standard-definition station, or I'm watching a station which is showing standard-def programming in a little box on the high-def stations. Cable fucks up high def programming so bad with compression that I don't give a crap about standard-def vs high-def for TV shows. Comcast may have the most channels, but that's because they compress the hell out of them all, making them utterly worthless.

    32. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember that the bandwidth required is cumulative. For some reason, people tend to forget that when dealing with streaming data.

    33. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But in practice, when HDMI or DVI cables are too long or when they are poorly made the results are often obvious.

      But not always -- you sometimes hear stories about rather subtle video degradation due to faulty HDMI or DVI cables.

    34. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Remember that the bandwidth required is cumulative

      Good thing the Wii isn't in HD, huh?

    35. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by krnpimpsta · · Score: 2, Funny

      I hear that square-wave signals look WAY better when they travel through way-overpriced copper rather than inexpensive copper. You can totally tell the difference!

      Why stop there? I only use copper mined from a small mine in the amazon that has been blessed by a local shaman. You think your picture looks better on expensive copper? Mine comes from the freaking amazon. Like acai berries. Ever heard of them? Yeah.

      My TV signal is freaking sweet.

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    36. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by luddite47 · · Score: 1

      I have those HDMI cables and they're amazing! I find that produce more warmth and tonal variance than sub-standard cables.

    37. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work in a TV studio. As far as I'm aware, we don't have a single device that uses HDMI as an interconnect.

      That's good, because HDMI is a consumer-level interconnect. I'd expect a studio to use stuff that has lots of BNC connectors and whatnot.

    38. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Vellmont · · Score: 1


      Therefore, if you needed a long enough HDMI cable, as the voltage drops enough from the transmitter to the receiver, you'd start seeing the difference between low quality and high quality cables in that the good cables would work and the others would cut out frequently or not work at all.

      Signal loss and error rates aren't about "voltage drop", it's about signal loss and noise gain. Ultimately what matters is the S/N ratio. Also, the HDMI cables are designed with specifications for the allowed signal loss and still transmitting error free transmissions. (The people who designed HDMI weren't stupid and know about signal loss). Unless you're talking about very long cables of 50 feet, I'm guessing the "differences between high quality and low quality" cables are all in your head.

      http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/how-long-can-hdmi-run.htm

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    39. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      there is pretty much no way for people to contact other people using the Wii online

      Unless they use the browser. Then they might sully their eyes on slashdot!

      But I agree, the parental controls should be enough.

    40. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Selivanow · · Score: 1

      I'm in the same boat. I am excited about not having to always wait for the disc to show up. After I get a HDTV then the kids can use this.

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    41. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Studio Quality"... Because in the studio, all the Ones in the digital stream are actually 1.15.

    42. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by GreyWolf3000 · · Score: 1

      Bit error rates affect different compression schemes differently. Specifically, the more you compress the data in general, the more single bit errors will start to destroy the signal completely, especially if the framing scheme was designed around running over a lossless connection.

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    43. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by chthonicdaemon · · Score: 1

      For completeness it is worth noting that the DVI/HDMI video uses TMDS to mitigate data loss, although there isn't all-out error correction on the video line. In practice this means that your cables have to be spectacularly bad or long to really lose bits.

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    44. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the parental controls should be enough

      Oh you have got to be kidding me.

      When someone mentions "parental controls", there are always complaints about "OMG CENSORSHIP!" or "why don't you trying being a parent for a change?". When they actually are being a parent, you instead complain about "why not try using the parental controls?"? WTF is wrong with you people???

    45. Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 1

      You know, they aren't all the same people, right?

      Some people on slashdot think there should be no censorship whatsoever.
      Among those people, some think the kids should be fine coming across anything. Others think the kids just need a talk about what to do or how to interpret some of the wilder stuff out there.

      Others on slashdot are keen on the idea of parental controls but still believe talks with their kids and perhaps additional limits (like keeping the computer in the living room as opposed to the bedroom with door closed) are important because no parental control is perfect.

      Still others keep their kids from the net entirely until they are X age. Others might have a limited whitelist.

      There's really a broad spectrum. Some that are coming from a similar philisophical place might suggest a modification they think the other might not be aware of. Others point out something just to troll or bash. But many are being internally consistent even if it is contradictory to other posts you've seen by others.

      For what it's worth, when I said parental controls should be enough, I wasn't trying to say one way or another how he should parent. I was simply stating that IF the only reason for keeping the wii offline was to keep the kids from getting offline, the parental controls should be enough to keep the kids offline. It's fairly easy to turn it on or off so you can use it when you want and disable access when you don't want it being used.

  2. great.... by Michael+Kristopeit · · Score: 4, Funny
    now if my tivo HD XL, mac mini, and xbox 360 all crap out, i can still watch streaming netflix in my living room.

    i can finally sleep at night.

    1. Re:great.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      We all know your 360 will crap out, it's just a matter of the other 2.

    2. Re:great.... by Eil · · Score: 1

      The Wii appeals to a broader audience than just gadget freaks who buy all the latest HDMI-3D-HD-everything. The little white box has a huge market share, especially among people who don't play "typical" video games. That's why it's a smart move for Netflix, it brings them much a wider audience for not very much effort.

    3. Re:great.... by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Funny thing, not everybody runs out and buys every electronic toy on the market. So there's less redundancy in most households.

    4. Re:great.... by Michael+Kristopeit · · Score: 1

      why is that funny to you?

  3. You need a disc? by Sparkycat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather that you need to load the netflix disc every time you want to stream stream something?

    On my 360 (and I assume on PS3s as well), netflix streaming is built into the software of the device: I can play a game off of a disc until my wife gets home, then switch over to netflix and watch some tv with a few button clicks.

    If you have to get up and fumble with discs every time you want to switch tasks, this is a big Fail for the Wii in terms of convenience. Why not a WiiWare application?

    1. Re:You need a disc? by nateand · · Score: 3, Informative

      Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather that you need to load the netflix disc every time you want to stream stream something?

      On my 360 (and I assume on PS3s as well), netflix streaming is built into the software of the device: I can play a game off of a disc until my wife gets home, then switch over to netflix and watch some tv with a few button clicks.

      If you have to get up and fumble with discs every time you want to switch tasks, this is a big Fail for the Wii in terms of convenience. Why not a WiiWare application?

      PS3 streaming also requires a disc. I heard it has something to do with xbox 360 exclusivity agreements, but I could be wrong.

    2. Re:You need a disc? by BassMan449 · · Score: 4, Informative

      PS3 requires a disc as well. I believe it is Netflix's way around the agreement they made with Microsoft to get it on the 360.

    3. Re:You need a disc? by Michael+Kristopeit · · Score: 2, Informative

      netflix made an exclusivity deal with the xbox 360 that expires next year or soon after... i dont have a link, but someone with the wii netflix team already said that once the deal expires, there will be a downloadable app made available.

    4. Re:You need a disc? by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1

      Well, I won't know until I receive mine and try it out, but it is possible to install software to the Wii. Many games install little "channels" that access leaderboard-style stats and whatnot, so perhaps this does the same thing, and makes a Netflix channel so you don't need the disc every time you want to watch something.

    5. Re:You need a disc? by AnotherUsername · · Score: 2, Informative

      From what I understand, at some time later this year the PS3 should be getting a firmware upgrade that allows instant viewing without a disc. I would imagine that the Wii will have a similar firmware upgrade.

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    6. Re:You need a disc? by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is correct but I suspect MS' agreement runs out at the end of 2010 as that will be how long PS3 owners require the disk and possibly the same for Wii owners. Though depending on the size of the app and the Wii's limited space, Wii owners may be stuck with the disk for good.

      http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/netflix-ps3-disc-must-remain-in-system-until-2010-update/

    7. Re:You need a disc? by BobPaul · · Score: 1

      PS3 requires a disc, but a Wii can easily be softmodded so that a USB loader (such as USBLoader GX) to launch the service from a thumbdrive/usb HD instead of a DVD.

      It would be best if they made it into a channel, but they haven't even done that on PS3, so that seems unlikely.

    8. Re:You need a disc? by madsenj37 · · Score: 1

      You will need the disc until Microsoft's exclusive agreement runs out. Same for PS3.

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    9. Re:You need a disc? by Richy_T · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you have to get up and fumble with discs every time you want to switch tasks, this is a big Fail for the Wii in terms of convenience.

      Think of it as "Wii Fit Lite"

    10. Re:You need a disc? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Putting a disc in is that much of an inconvenience to you? Get some perspective. Being able to stream movies straight to your house is a *huge* convenience, regardless of the device. Inserting a disc to enable that is trivial, not a big fail.

    11. Re:You need a disc? by Nalgas+D.+Lemur · · Score: 1

      It may be trivial, but it's still enough of an inconvenience that over the past year or two I've moved heavily away from using my Wii much to using my gaming/media center PC instead. They're hooked up to the same screen and speakers, so it's not like one is more accessible than the other. It's just that when I want to goof off for a bit with a game or movie or TV show, it's much easier to be able to get to it with a couple clicks than to have to go to the other side of the room, find the disc I want, and wait for the Wii to boot up and get through half a dozen warning screens about how we're all going to die if I don't read the safety information and wear my wrist strap.

      It's not a horrible inconvenience, and I still use the Wii when there's something specific I want to do with it, but the PC offers much less "resistance", so it gets a lot more use these days both when I could do the same thing on either it or the Wii or when I'm looking for something to entertain myself with but am not sure yet what I have in mind and want to look at my options. The Wii would probably see more use if I could install everything and run without swapping discs (without having to mod it first) and it didn't have to basically reboot every time I go back to the main menu to switch tasks.

  4. Netflix streaming by elrous0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm beginning to think that everything will one day stream Netflix. It would be nice if Netflix would concentrate less on getting their service on my refrigerator and more on expanding their selection of movies and shows available for streaming. It doesn't seem to have improved all that much since the service started.

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    1. Re:Netflix streaming by fullfactorial · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good luck with that. Netflix is beholden to the content owners for that, and they are VERY particular with the who-what-when-where-how of content distribution.

      I expect to see Hulu streaming to the Wii before I see a week-old TV show on Netflix.

    2. Re:Netflix streaming by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 1

      So are you picturing a garage with two dudes in it, both of whom are currently working on putting netflix on home appliances? "Hey Bob, maybe we better switch back to getting some more movies up". If the owners of the content decided netflix could post whatever they wanted this stuff would be up yesterday. Its legal agreements and handwringing with the suits at the movie companies worried about their bottom lines, not Netflix that's holding it up. But given that blockbuster is about to crumble its only a matter of time before getting streamed movies is the only way people rent them. I'm guessing you'll see a lot better terms then.

    3. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I know South Park is constantly updated to stream which I enjoy, but I'd really like the Simpsons seasons 1-10 on there and Futurama. Now THAT would be awesome. I'd also like some other anime series streamed on there, like Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GiG. First season is there and the stripped down "movies" of the seasons are there but I want to watch the entire series in all it's glorious awesomeness! Wouldn't mind some various Gundam series too.

      Yeah I could go buy them but I'm a cheapskate =P I also realize I'm probably a minority of their customers wanting more anime streaming. I'm actually surprised they bothered putting some on there already.

    4. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except you still can't stream Netflix to a Linux desktop.

    5. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Some of us have been waiting for this and read Slashdot more than we check every manufacturer's website... SLASHDOT IS A NEWS AGGREGATOR THIS IS WHAT THE SITE IS HERE FOR, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT STFU!

    6. Re:Netflix streaming by lidocaineus · · Score: 1

      because by limiting the platforms on which a service runs will broaden their customer base, enabling them to have better bargaining power with the studios who control source distribution? Thank god you don't run netflix.

    7. Re:Netflix streaming by iroll · · Score: 1

      Seconded.

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    8. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It doesn't seem to have improved all that much since the service

      Care to qualify that? I'd say their selection has improved dramatically:

      http://feedfliks.com/streaming/just-arrived

      And will keep getting better:

      http://feedfliks.com/streaming/coming-soon

      What is missing that results in your incessant whining about selection?

    9. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You also have to wonder why Slashdot has to post an article each time support is announced for a different device and then each time that support arrives (or so it seems). We get it... Netflix streams movies over the Internet to an assortment of devices.

      What? They have NetFlix on the Internet?

    10. Re:Netflix streaming by Killer+Orca · · Score: 1

      I'm beginning to think that everything will one day stream Netflix. It would be nice if Netflix would concentrate less on getting their service on my refrigerator and more on expanding their selection of movies and shows available for streaming. It doesn't seem to have improved all that much since the service started.

      Because selection is dependent on the content providers and not technological limitations, which is far as I can tell are much easier to overcome. However, they have been working quite hard at improving their streaming selection http://criterioncast.com/2009/12/21/criterion-on-netflix/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-10426792-261.html

    11. Re:Netflix streaming by CrankyFool · · Score: 4, Informative

      They can do both, you know.

      (I work at Netflix, on the IT side. I mean, duh, I read slashdot).

      The groups working on device support have nothing to do with the groups working on more content; the latter is largely a business effort anyway, whereas the former is SOME business efforts, and lots of technical efforts.

      And my impression is that the top two priorities are:

      1. More content;

      2. More devices.

    12. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      My hard-of-hearing wife is still waiting for closed captions. I'm wondering if a class action discrimination lawsuit would help. Hulu has had captions for years, and Youtube is even beginning to support them, even though their content is completely user-submitted. It's really frustrating, because it's a neat service and she can't enjoy it at all because of this one missing feature--which means I can't either. We've had to stick to DVDs, which is kind of a shame.

    13. Re:Netflix streaming by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      I wonder if the dolphin emulator could fix this.

    14. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I expect to see Hulu streaming to the Wii before I see a week-old TV show on Netflix.

      Maybe this has changed since I stopped watching after the third season, but Heroes episodes turned up on Netflix streaming within a day of airing. Mind you, that's the only show I know of that Netflix has had available in that kind of timeframe.

    15. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I expect to see Hulu streaming to the Wii before I see a week-old TV show on Netflix.

      When season 2 of Heroes was on, it was showing up on Netflix streaming within a day or two of the original air date.

    16. Re:Netflix streaming by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Linux support needs to be added. Have they never heard of mythtv?

    17. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Week old Legend of the Seekers are on Netflix streaming.

    18. Re:Netflix streaming by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      We get it... Netflix streams movies over the Internet to an assortment of devices.

      This is the Wii, not a Windows CE wristwatch - people actually own these in large quantities. Plus, it completes the Playstation/XBox/Wii trifecta.

      Add in Mac & PC and Roku, and pretty much everybody who has high-speed Internet in the US can be a Netflix streaming customer.

      Their job is essentially done. It's the studios' turn to step up and start licensing content. The customers are waiting (and/or torrenting). The ball's entirely in their court - they can chose to monetize the demand or not.

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    19. Re:Netflix streaming by LandDolphin · · Score: 2, Informative

      I believe Legend of the Seeker updates to Netflix weekly. I'm sure there are others too.

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    20. Re:Netflix streaming by Nyeerrmm · · Score: 1

      They can do both, and the two goals reinforce each other -- the skills to do both are pretty non-overlapping anyway. For me, the streaming has been a non-starter so far because I run a MythTV media center and own a Wii -- the only place I can use the streaming right now is on my laptop (a Mac), which is not the best movie viewing machine.

      This brings me into the market now, and makes me think that when I move out of my current place (the account is in my roommates name) I'll get my own subscription as well. Assuming I'm not a total outlier (not many people will have MythTV, but there are many people with only a Wii, DVD player, and crappy cable box attached to their TV,) this greatly expands the number of people using streaming, and will thus encourage content producers to see that they need to find a good way to monetize streaming video.

      Just because this doesn't benefit you directly and in particular, that doesn't mean its not worthwhile, and in this case a rising tide raises all boats.

    21. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The groups working on device support have nothing to do with the groups working on more content; the latter is largely a business effort anyway, whereas the former is SOME business efforts, and lots of technical efforts.

      Liar! Everyone knows that corporations are single-minded monolithic entities! Teams and departments do not exist! Every employee's efforts are 100% devoted to whatever product was most recently announced! Additional ridiculous notion!

    22. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spartacus was appearing the same day, if you like lots of CGI blood and gratuitous sex. Good plot though - better than any other current show. Too bad the sex+blood nearly ruins it.

    23. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome site! I can't believe I didn't know about that. Much better than Netflix's lousy catalog. <3

    24. Re:Netflix streaming by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

      So are you picturing a garage with two dudes in it, both of whom are currently working on putting netflix on home appliances? "Hey Bob, maybe we better switch back to getting some more movies up". If the owners of the content decided netflix could post whatever they wanted this stuff would be up yesterday. Its legal agreements and handwringing with the suits at the movie companies worried about their bottom lines, not Netflix that's holding it up. But given that blockbuster is about to crumble its only a matter of time before getting streamed movies is the only way people rent them. I'm guessing you'll see a lot better terms then.

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    25. Re:Netflix streaming by fm6 · · Score: 1

      ... more on expanding their selection of movies and shows available for streaming.

      What makes you think they're not already doing all they can on that score? They can't show a movie unless the people who own the rights say they can — and the entertainment industry hates and fears the very concept of online availability in any form. Short of hiring mercenaries or mobsters for a little extralegal negotiating (traditional in the industry, but frowned upon these days) there's not much more they can do.

      Meanwhile, the more devices they support, the bigger their customer base, and the more clout they have. Hollywood will come around when they realize they can't live without online customers.

    26. Re:Netflix streaming by nullchar · · Score: 1

      It's cool netflix has Heroes available for streaming, but the discs are still unavailable for Heroes Season 4. Very frustrating to see the Play button only.

    27. Re:Netflix streaming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, yes, the American answer to everything: lawsuits. It attests to the pathetic state of this nation that you can probably win.

      I should blind myself and sue Youtube for not supporting revolutionary braille-capable video technology.

    28. Re:Netflix streaming by georgemoot · · Score: 1

      I think that Netflix is being brilliant, actually, in their quest to be ubiquitous. They could have gone the route of "You want to stream? Buy this box." but instead chose to say "You want to stream? Okay, what've you got? game console? tivo? roku? blueray player? laptop? "

      If they're everywhere, then they'll be the first thing someone thinks of when they want streaming, digital entertainment.

  5. Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by ekimminau · · Score: 1

    Wii is not listed as a supported player yet here: http://www.netflix.com/NetflixReadyDevices?lnkceData=0&lnkce=gssiclk&trkid=1445376 Nor in the "Watch Instantly" view menu here: http://www.netflix.com/GetStartedStreamingInstantly#

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    1. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by bigpat · · Score: 1

      Technically the wii won't be supported until 3/26...

      When I click on the "Find Out More" it shows that they shipped my disc and it will arrive on 3/26

    2. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by ShadowRangerRIT · · Score: 1

      How do you request a disc? I can't find anything on their site.

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    3. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by ekimminau · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, if you click here: http://www.netflix.com/InstantStreamingDisc?device=Wii After you are logged into your netflix account you can click on "send me the disk". I just did and it said I should have my disk tomorrow.

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    4. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      The summary said it is for people who pre-ordered the Disc (and service). This is probably therefore a staggered service like they did with PS3 streaming; they'll send out a certain number initially to make sure the bugs are worked out, and then later on open it up to those of us who didn't pre-order.

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    5. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      It may be multiply staggered. I haven't received a notification yet and I put in my request several months ago. I haven't checked the spam filter yet though.

    6. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by Toonol · · Score: 2, Informative

      I just requested one. Logged onto Netflix.com, went to "Instantly to your TV", click on "Wii - coming soon". They have a link to ask them for a free disk, and they said it would arrive tomorrow.

    7. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by CrankyFool · · Score: 1

      Technically, unless you're in the group of people getting the first batch of discs, it's not even supported then :)

    8. Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet by BlaisePascal · · Score: 1

      I've been checking my spam filter for it all afternoon, and still nothing.

  6. No DVD by Nested · · Score: 1

    Now if only the Wii supported standard DVD movies it might have a chance of getting used.

    1. Re:No DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It does through homebrew. You can also use it to play avi files. Get with the times.

    2. Re:No DVD by Jeng · · Score: 1

      I'd rather keep my warranty intact thank you.

      If I want to work with something hacked together I'll do it on the PC where recovery is simple.

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    3. Re:No DVD by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      The Wii would make a lousy DVD player, as it has no way to pipe 5.1, beyond Dolby Pro-logic, out to a receiver.

      But your comment is nonetheless hilarious, the Wii is a frighteningly good system, and software from "Rayman Raving Rabbids" to Wii Fit is justifiably popular.

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    4. Re:No DVD by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I'd rather keep my warranty intact thank you.

      That explains it. You've only had it less than a year.

      Once the shiny novelty wears off, the ability to expand its function is nice to have.

    5. Re:No DVD by Joe+Tie. · · Score: 1

      Well, great. But OP didn't say he wanted it to play dvds within a limited set of criteria. He just said he wanted it to play dvds.

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    6. Re:No DVD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homebrew is installed as a Channel. You can uninstall it before you send the device in for warranty. (Assuming it still turns on!)

    7. Re:No DVD by zonker · · Score: 0

      From what I've heard (grain of salt) it isn't so much a technical issue but a licensing issue. Nintendo made a calculated judgement to release it without DVD playback because the market is sufficiently saturated at this point. I've wondered if a company like Cyberlink would ever bring a DVD program like PowerDVD out to the Wii store. I suppose it might be too niche at this point though.

  7. All joking aside... by Dripdry · · Score: 2, Funny

    So I don't have to wait for the DVD to come in the mail, huh? That's awfully con-Wii-nient!

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    1. Re:All joking aside... by willworkforbeer · · Score: 1

      That's awfully con-Wii-nient!

      You didn't have to set it quite that far aside.

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    2. Re:All joking aside... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

      The PS3 and Wii require a disc purely because of MS' exclusivity deal which must run out at the end of this year because Netflix announced that PS3 owners won't need the disc after this year. The Wii may be different due to lack of storage space.

    3. Re:All joking aside... by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      The Wii /should/ have plenty of space (mplayer has been ported to it on homebrew) but there's no telling how much cruft the streamin app will have.

    4. Re:All joking aside... by tepples · · Score: 2, Informative

      Wii has 512 MB of internal storage. A channel for streaming video would probably be no bigger than a WiiWare game. Compare to VLC media player, which is a 15 MB download.

    5. Re:All joking aside... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      After I read you post, I find I must agree. You did put all joking aside~

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    6. Re:All joking aside... by i.r.id10t · · Score: 1

      And look at all that VLC can do ... play darn near anything, stream content in *multiple* formats, transcode, etc.

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    7. Re:All joking aside... by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      To answer your .sig:

      I play Smash Bros. but want to switch to PC gaming. What platform fighting game should I try? (SFIV != platform.)

      Don't try to switch. PCs suck at fighting games, in the same way that consoles suck at RTSs.

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    8. Re:All joking aside... by tepples · · Score: 1

      PCs suck at fighting games

      But consoles suck at indie games. For which system should an indie studio develop a fighting game?

  8. Better than PlayOn? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is it any better than PlayOn's solution, and through which I've been enjoying Netflix films on my Wii for months now?
    Along with Hulu, Amazon VOD, local media, and lots of other content.

    And I don't care about HD for the kids to watch Cartoon Network shows or old family-friendly movies on the big screen.
    If want a higher quality experience, I'll hook up the laptop with WMC and use its HDMI output.
    But if I want to use the laptop for something else and the kids want to watch a movie, not a problem.

    While not a "fail" per se on Netflix part, it did get here late enough to give PlayOn lots of customers.

  9. WTF is Netflix? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Signed, a confused Canadian.

    1. Re:WTF is Netflix? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like zip.ca, only gayer.

    2. Re:WTF is Netflix? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Signed, a confused Canadian.

      I call shenanigans - there's no such place as Canada.

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  10. Netflix disk, AWAY! by Busted1942 · · Score: 1

    Wohooo!

  11. No email here by stoolpigeon · · Score: 1

    I signed up for this as soon as I heard about it. I just checked the email account assoicated with my Netflix account and there is nothing there yet. Hopefully soon, I've been really looking forward to this.

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    1. Re:No email here by Pontiac · · Score: 2, Informative

      Log onto your Netflix account and check this page..
      http://www.netflix.com/InstantStreamingDisc?device=Wii

      It should give your delivery status.

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    2. Re:No email here by stoolpigeon · · Score: 2, Informative

      I did that as soon as I saw I had no email. It says the same thing it said back when I signed up.
          "Thanks for reserving your FREE instant streaming disc for your Wii console.

      You don't need to do anything else - your instant streaming disc for Wii will ship automatically when it is available this spring."

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    3. Re:No email here by Elwar123 · · Score: 1

      I got the e-mail earlier today. Said it should arrive tomorrow (Friday).

    4. Re:No email here by raving+griff · · Score: 1

      My status is currently the same. Either netflix is lagging behind or this release is staggered.

  12. Well said by CranberryKing · · Score: 1

    You mean I can finally watch 'Look Who's Talking 2' and 'Rocky V' on my Wii?

  13. just as good as the others... by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But without any hope of HD, whats the point?

    Last I heard Netflix streaming on PS3 and Xbox 360 are both in 480p - same resolution as the Wii.

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    1. Re:just as good as the others... by sopssa · · Score: 1

      But like the GP stated, "without any hope". It's still easily possible for 360/PS3 to add HD quality, but with Wii the hardware limits them from doing that.

    2. Re:just as good as the others... by BillGod · · Score: 1

      Next gen Wii has already said it will be HD. Not that the games will be in HD but at least it has HD capabilities. Anyway. Just got my email from netflix today. Dear William, Your free instant streaming disc for Wii should arrive by Friday, Mar 26, 2010. Meanwhile, add movies & TV episodes to your instant Queue now so you're ready to watch instantly when your instant streaming disc arrives. -Your friends at Netflix Thousands of TV episodes & movies to watch instantly! Wii instant Queue Choose from thousands of TV episodes, classic movies & some new releases. Browse and instantly watch right on your TV via your Wii(TM) console.

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    3. Re:just as good as the others... by DarkMagician07 · · Score: 1

      Actually, streaming to the Xbox is done in HD, albeit 720p last I checked. The PS3 also gets some content in HD, but not as much as the Xbox does yet. The Xbox in our house is pretty much used only for netflix streaming as it's connected to the old tv in the bedroom (and netflix is currently the only content we watch on that TV). I have brought it out to my 46" Bravia and seen a difference when streaming the HD version of content vs. the SD version of the same content.

      I'm actually surprised the PS3 doesn't get more HD content, but then again, Microsoft has pretty much bought their way into being the sole provider of quite a few multiplatform contents that I would much rather see on my PS3. Not only do they get to have Netflix deny some HD content to the PS3, but they also took over the Rock Band Network, which means that 95% or more of the RBN releases that are coming out are only on the Xbox.

    4. Re:just as good as the others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I heard Netflix streaming on PS3 and Xbox 360 are both in 480p - same resolution as the Wii.

      I don't know for sure, but streaming movies specifically marked HD on my PS3 look way better than 480p, probably 720p.

  14. Temporary Legal Requirement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As I understand Netflix and Xbox have an deal where xbox is the only party allowed to have streaming video from netflix on the hard-drive. The disk is a legal formality to get around this agreement, and will likely no longer be required once the exclusivity period is expired.

    I seem to remember reading this period would end in the fall of this year or next (can't recall).

  15. Linux by Thuktun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now if only we could stream instantly to a Linux PC without having to resort to a VM running Windows...

    1. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF? Do you have something against virtual machines?

    2. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How 'bout you guys work on getting desktop Linux suitable for 100M+ households, first.

    3. Re:Linux by CyDharttha · · Score: 1

      This article actually made me wonder, for the first time... if the problem with Netflix on Linux is DRM, could they ship us a disc that would allow us to use Netflix streaming on Linux, just like they're doing for PS3 and Wii?

    4. Re:Linux by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      This article actually made me wonder, for the first time... if the problem with Netflix on Linux is DRM, could they ship us a disc that would allow us to use Netflix streaming on Linux, just like they're doing for PS3 and Wii?

      Dear Roku,

      I will buy the above CD for however much money you make on one of your hardware devices.

      Sincerely,
      Quite a few of us

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    5. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that is actually an awesome idea. I will commence to bugging the shit out of Netflix to enact it.

    6. Re:Linux by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      That would suck, because then you'd have to reboot and wouldn't be able to do anything else at the same time. I'd prefer a native app, but even a VM would be better than that.

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  16. Re:Why not Wii-ware? by BobPaul · · Score: 1

    The exclusive deal with MS for the XBox360. Running from the disc allows Netflix to bypass the wording of the contract, such that's how it runs on PS3 and probably Wii.

  17. Why so much hate? by MrNiceguy_KS · · Score: 1

    I'm kinda confused by the fact that it seems like roughly half the comments are complaints of one form or another. Yes, the Wii isn't HD, everyone knows that. Yes, you have to put in a disc - this is due to an exclusivity agreement between Netflix and Microsoft. The PS3 has to use a disc also. Yes, you can also watch Netflix streaming with a PC, TiVo, XBox 360, PS3, plus assorted TV's and Blu-Ray players have it built in. If you have one or more of those already, then Netflix on Wii isn't a big deal.

    My family has been looking forward to this ever since it was announced. We have a standard-def TV that we will likely keep until it breaks. I've watched a number of movies on my PC, but my wife and daughter aren't really interested in doing that. (I generally watch at my desk while working on another computer.) Other than a modded XBox, the Wii is the only game console we own.

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    1. Re:Why so much hate? by adwarf · · Score: 1

      Wow you just perfectly described my household as well....

    2. Re:Why so much hate? by lena_10326 · · Score: 1

      The Wii is Macintosh of the game consoles. They hate the Wii for similar reasons of hating Macs.

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  18. Yay! by MrTripps · · Score: 1

    If I had a Wii I'd be happy. Now about that 28 day waiting period that Block Buster doesn't have and the Very Long Wait for any slightly popular Blu-ray....

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  19. Quality will be an issue by Little_Professor · · Score: 1

    If it's anything like the streaming video of BBC iPlayer's Wii app, it's going to be very disappointing quality. The Wii simply isn't powerful enough to process high-bitrate content (even for standard-def) so the iPlayer app uses low bitrate streams that are blocky and barely watchable on a big TV screen.

    1. Re:Quality will be an issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find that odd. MPlayer can do DVDs fine.

  20. Linux next?? Petition... by markdavis · · Score: 1

    Hopefully they will release a Linux version at some point. In the meantime, please take a minute and fill out this petition:

    http://www.petitiononline.com/Linflix/petition.html (right now it is at 4429, we can do much better)

  21. Re:Linux next?? Petition... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad dog shit is more valuable (and has accomplished more) than online petitions.

  22. Not worth it for me by Sporkinum · · Score: 1

    I don't watch enough movies for Netflix to be worth the cost. Redbox works better for me for the 1 or 2 times a month I want to rent a movie.

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    1. Re:Not worth it for me by h4rr4r · · Score: 1

      I have netflix instead of cable. More stuff I want to watch, when I want to watch it and no commercials. I do watch far more DVDs than streaming though.

    2. Re:Not worth it for me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $8 ??

      Might be time to start looking for a new job.

    3. Re:Not worth it for me by Sporkinum · · Score: 1

      VS $2 for 2 rentals a month?

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  23. Duh by BancBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

    RTFA! All you have to do is build a Wii Emulator for Linux and then you can run it in that instead of a Windows VM. Sheesh.

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  24. It's about time by courtjester801 · · Score: 1

    I was missing out on streaming wii.

  25. Re:Linux next?? Petition... by markdavis · · Score: 1

    Well, it doesn't hurt to present some numbers to Netflix. I doubt it will make that much difference, but at least it is SOMETHING. Zero feedback usually guarantees zero results, that is pretty certain.

  26. Sigh...need more content by edmicman · · Score: 1

    Great, so now I have Netflix on my Vista Media Center, DVD/Bluray player, and now Wii...all hooked up to the TV. Can we get some more content? I totally understand not being able to get recent releases and highly popular new content. But why can't I get 10+ year old movies and TV series from 3+ seasons ago on Netflix Streaming? Probably the last dozen titles I've looked up haven't been available. They should be building up their back catalog and getting obscure titles....streaming should be the answer for that moment when you used to go to the video store, not knowing what you wanted to watch, and just browsing grabbing whatever catches your eye. Sure I can add it to the queue, but by the time it comes I'm not feeling it anymore.

    I absolutely *hate* the selection that they have available for streaming.

  27. Don't use this.You'll get "Very Long Wait" on DVDs by tji · · Score: 1

    Netflix seems to count streaming views similarly to physical disc rentals, so they de-prioritize your disc rentals the same way as many have reported for people who run through a lot of discs.

    I picked up a Samsung Blu-Ray player which supports Netflix streaming. I found the selection to be fairly poor, but because of the easy access I ended up sampling a lot of material. After digging a lot, I turned up some good options, like some Showtime series, and PBS Frontline episodes.

    During this time I had actually decreased the amount of the Netflix mailed discs I was watching. Partly due to having the streaming, but mostly just form being too busy. Despite the low usage of discs, all the top 15 movies in my queue were in the "Very Long Wait" state. Comparing my queue to co-workers queues showed that theirs did not have anywhere near the same delays shown.

    I've completely stopped using streaming. It's okay as filler material if it's a "free" service. But, it's definitely not worth it if it means no access to decent movies.

    If iTMS gets a little better selection, I will gladly stop my Netflix subscription. I'm sick of the gaming of the queue.

  28. Re:Don't use this.You'll get "Very Long Wait" on D by nullchar · · Score: 1

    I'm curious, did your coworkers have the same movies at the top of their queues? "Very long wait" seems indicative of "very popular movies".

  29. Available in Europe... when? by sebastian_proteus · · Score: 1

    So when exactly is Netflix going to be available in Europe? I have a couple of devices which are Netflix-capable (PC, LG BD390, now the Wii), yet despite all the technological advances we are still limited by the same geographical restricted licensing models. We had DVD region encoding, but nowadays most DVD players can be made region-free. We are switching to online content, which is great, but this also means that they know where you are and decide what you are or not allowed to view - or not. Free market my ass.

  30. Re:Don't use this.You'll get "Very Long Wait" on D by BigSes · · Score: 1

    Or movies way off the beaten path. Rare ones tend to have "Very long wait" or never show up at all.

  31. Opening Netflix Account Today by cparker15 · · Score: 1

    Netflix on the Wii is what I was waiting for before opening a Netflix account. Thanks, Netflix!

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