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How Do You Extend Your Wireless Connection?

ganjadude writes "So I am moving to a location where the cell signal is very poor (I don't get signal inside my house), and I have been looking at wireless extenders such as the ones that Sprint and Verizon have. I am brought down by the cost (Sprint charges monthly, Verizon $250 up front, AT&T.... well they are AT&T). Being that this is Slashdot, and a lot of us live in basements (I kid!), I assume that some of the crowd has had this issue in the past. What have you done, or what alternatives are available to someone in such a situation?"

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  1. Wifi by alop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I use google voice, over wifi while at home.
    If you have T-Mobile and a blackberry device, you have use UMA over wifi as well.

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    1. Re:Wifi by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If finding a solution to the actual problem of not being able to respond to phone calls is what's important, may I suggest an alternative workaround?

      Forward your cell phone to a land line in your basement.

    2. Re:Wifi by BobPaul · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Don't have T-Mobile, but when they released it, it was included in all T-Mobile plans and any calls you START on wifi (even if you transition to cellular mid call) are free, while any calls you START on cellular (even if you go home and transition to wifi mid call) count against your minutes.

      So... when you're driving home, hang up and call back, but if you're leaving the house, keep talking.

    3. Re:Wifi by noc007 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I do have a smartphone running Android with the Google Voice app and this is not the case. As MDMurphy stated, GV is a forwarder and this is how the app functions; outbound GV calls still call the local GV number and use minutes. I believe alop has a Gizmo5 account, which is a SIP service acquired by Google in November, and is the only SIP service supported to directly work with GV without a POTS call having to be initiated.

      Googles FAQ backup what MDMurphy and myself are saying:
      http://www.google.com/support/voice/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=115079
      http://www.google.com/support/voice/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=115104

      Even if one were to have a Gizmo5 account before they stopped accepting new accounts when Google acquired them, a SIP client app is still required; the GV app for Android will not connect via SIP and will still use airtime. The only way around this is to get a SIP account, Gizmo5 or not, and use a SIP client. GV can be optionally used depending on what services the SIP account provides and what you want to do. Additionally a service like SIP Sorcery might be needed depending on what you're doing:
      http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ae8glDUXDsh9ZGR2eG43cjRfMzNkOTM4ZjNjeA&hl=en&pli=1

      Google has stated that they plan on bringing SIP connectivity to the GV service in the future as part of their Gizmo5 purchase. Besides having a Gizmo5 account or jumping through the hoops of what's documented in the last link, I'm interested in how one can use GV via SIP or WiFi and no call over POTS or a mobile network using minutes.

  2. help by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This should help
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875995063

    Tim Rosco

    1. Re:help by funkysoulbrother · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've used a similar wilson setup for 3+ years now (http://www.repeaterstore.com/products/repeaterkits/wilson/images/pages/soho-50db-full-kit.html). Using the repeater to an internal antenna, I boost my signal from -1 in much of the house to 4+ (out of 5) in much of the house. The only down-side I've had is it's quite expensive, and not easy to install. The 30' foot cable from the repeater to the internal antenna is 5/8" thick and was very hard to pull through my walls. It works pretty good. My signal does pulsate a bit and will still drop calls occasionally, but I think a better external antenna will help. My antenna broke this winter from an ICE Dam breaking loose, so I think I'll get a Yagi antenna instead and make it a little stronger.

    2. Re:help by Nimloth · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's the crappy car version, won't do squat for his home. Try this one instead: http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/801247.php The new DT series gets GREAT results while keeping costs low and installation troubles to a minimum.

  3. Ask to speak to the Retentions Dept. by LurkerXXX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The phone companies do charge upfront/monthly fees for those micro-cells, but when pushed, they will often reduce or wave the charges for them to retain a phone customer. You might call your provider (be it Sprint, Verizon, etc) and talk to the retentions department.

  4. Cell Phone Repeater by mongoose(!no) · · Score: 4, Informative

    My dad lives in the shadow of a cell tower and gets no reception on his property, but does if he walks to the neighbors house (100 feet or so). I suggested he get a cell phone repeater. He now gets a bar or two, but not a good quality signal. This is the one he got (but not from Thinkgeek, I don't think). It should be noted, he also got a directional antenna that company sells to point at the nearest tower besides the one he lives under.

    1. Re:Cell Phone Repeater by dingram17 · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's the downside of being too close. The vertical beamwidth from the antennae will probably be too small as there would be gain, meaning that you need to be a reasonable distance away to start getting coverage. This is one of the reasons that cellphone coverage in high rise buildings is tricky -- there isn't enough signal directed upwards from ground masts, and masts that are on the top of buildings tend to not have enough down direction. Some clever use of phased arrays would solve this, but the sites are set up to serve the greatest number of people for the least cost.

  5. sprint by JDAustin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I live between two hills in a area where Sprint has great coverage but in my house I get either 1 bar or roaming. If I walk 100 yards up either hill its perfect reception. Sprint sent me a Airave ($100 normally) for free and comps me the $5 month fee. With it I get perfect reception. The Airave is not a repeater but a micro cell tower that communicates with Sprints network over a internet connection.

  6. Wi-Ex Signal Repeater by crazyj · · Score: 4, Informative

    As long as you have a decent signal somewhere close enough you can run a cable to such as in your attic, or on your roof I can highly recommend the Wi-Ex YX510 from ZBoost (http://wi-ex.com/YX510.aspx). I have one at home and one at my office and they're great — as long as you have a good signal it can repeat for you. If you have no good signal nearby then you're either S.O.L. or stuck with a "mini-cell" thingy from your provider.

    1. Re:Wi-Ex Signal Repeater by evilviper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you have no good signal nearby then you're either S.O.L. or stuck with a "mini-cell" thingy from your provider.

      Umm... that's not really true.

      If it wasn't for the curvature of the earth, we could well have a single cell tower serving entire countries. Is there anywhere on the planet that you can't get a cell phone signal while in a jet at cruising altitude?

      With an antenna, or a repeater (a proxy antenna...) a few feet of vertical rise can double the signal strength... So while you may have no signal on ground level, getting a signal on your roof-top is quite likely, and the best location for an antenna/repeater.

      If you've still got no signal, raising the antenna on a pole, several feet above your roof-top is even more likely, still, to give you a great signal. Frankly, unless your have some MAJOR obstructions in every direction from where you are (mountain, giant sequoias, etc.), I expect it is ALWAYS possible to get a cell phone signal, with some work...

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    2. Re:Wi-Ex Signal Repeater by kqc7011 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I use the Wi-Ex with a external Yagi antenna hooked up and it is pointed at the nearest tower which is 40 some miles away. I do have line of sight. It works. Used to have to stand on a table on the deck and hold the phone up. Now I can sit in the house and talk. I do not use it for data, never even checked if I could.

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  7. Purple Pill by CaptainPatent · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think I heard something about a pill that will extend the range of your hardware...

    There was some drawback about a doctor and four hours though.

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    1. Re:Purple Pill by spazdor · · Score: 3, Funny

      How would you like to get your simm card's contents RIPPED IN 4 WEEKS?

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  8. Re:This, my friends. by Pojut · · Score: 2, Funny

    -_-;;

    I'll just be going over here now ----->

  9. WokFi by MarcoPon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    With home made parabolic reflectors made out of cookware! :)

    Stan Swan's WokFi site from New Zealand: http://www.usbwifi.orconhosting.net.nz/
    Fast european mirror: http://exe64.com/mirror/wokfi/

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  10. home based Cell phone extenders by TheCow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I haven't found anything that is less than $200, but I have a product from http://www.wi-ex.com/

    It is a simple device, that takes some work to get installed correctly, but works for me.

    Even at $240, if you are going to be living there for over 2 years, it is less than $10 per month if you choose to look at it that way.

    Just comes down to how important is better cell phone signal to you in your basement?

  11. T-Mobile by yelvington · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you get a Blackberry from T-Mobile, it will happily connect via Wifi. The technology is called UMA:
    http://www.umatechnology.org/overview/

    They may have other phones that do it as well. I don't know.

    No femtocell host is required.

  12. Simple. by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Landline.

    If you're concerned that people might have to dial 2 numbers to reach you when you have no signal, set up a Google Voice number to ring both phones, then give out THAT number.

    Problem: solved.

    An added bonus -- you can configure GV to go straight to voicemail at certain hours. Get a goo night's sleep while still being contactable in an emergency (your phone is still on and anyone who has that number can be told to call it in case of emergency).

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  13. Verizon Network Extender by rbphilip · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can almost always talk them down to $150, and mine works flawlessly. Best $150 I ever spent. My (basement!) office now has great cell service, as does the rest of my house.

  14. quiet by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 4, Funny

    What have you done, or what alternatives are available to someone in such a situation?

    Enjoy the peace and quiet?

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  15. A simple but usually effective solution... by Announcer · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...is called a "passive repeater". Essentially, it is two antennas, connected by low-loss coax. You install a Yagi beam antenna in a spot with good signals, and aim it at the tower. Run the coax into the area needing signal, and connect another antenna to it, there. There are no electronics to require power, so it will operate for as long as the antennas survive. Cost is minimal.

    The Yagi beam will give gain for both, receive and transmit. This has been done with TV antennas on opposite sides of a hill, to bring signals down into a valley.

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  16. Re:Cell Phone Booster by tomhudson · · Score: 2
    http://www.videojug.com/expertanswer/cell-phone-voip-2/how-can-i-make-voip-calls-on-my-cell-phone

    Works fine, just do like I said if your local net connection doesn't reach where you want. smartphones CAN make calls through your internet connection, unless your provider has disabled that functionality, in which case it sux 2 b u.

  17. Linksys installs free extenders in many places by noidentity · · Score: 3, Funny

    I've found that linksys helpfully installs range extenders in many neighborhoods already. Sometimes I can pick up my WiFi across town! Just look for "linksys" in the SSID. It's a great service.

  18. Re:FRAST PRAST by icebike · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get a cell phone that can also use your wireless net connection like a lot of today's cell phones do.

    Or get with AT&T and use their micro Cell (which is actually a femtocell) that uses your broadband to feed a home-cell just for your phones (or any you authorize).

    You have to get over the bit about paying them to allow you to provide extensions to their infrastructure, but once you climb off that soap box it provides pretty good service.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2010/0325/AT-T-Microcell-could-help-improve-home-cell-service

    It just went nation wide.

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  19. Try the WIFI-SAUCEPAN solution... by commport1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tsk, tsk - you should read slashdot more religiously. Already mentioned here: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/12/30/231217/Boost-a-Weak-3G-Modem-Signal-With-a-Saucepan Give it a go, it'll cost you $0 if it works.

  20. Bluetooth landline phones??? by Em+Ellel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This may not work in every case - but if you have SOME reception in the house (as in the basement lack of coverage example) I saw something in the store the other day that I thought was a cool idea. Some of the current landline cordless phone systems now support being bluetooth clients. Basically you leave your cell phone next to the base (where you presumably have reception), and use any of the system's phones to answer or place calls.

    -Em

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  21. Re:FRAST PRAST by gnapster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sorry if I'm being dense, but is this not precisely what the original poster means by 'wireless extenders' which he doesn't want to pay the company for? ($250 in Verizon's case, and he has looked at AT&T.)

  22. Re:FRAST PRAST by sonicmerlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Soapbox? It's a legitimate gripe. It's nuts that you have to pay AT&T to use your *paid for* net connection to take the load off their network. They should be paying you.