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"Install Other OS" Feature Removed From the PS3

Hann1bal writes "The next system software update for the PlayStation 3 system will be released on April 1, 2010 (JST), and will disable the 'Install Other OS' feature that was available on the PS3 systems prior to the current slimmer models, launched in September 2009. This feature enabled users to install an operating system, but due to security concerns, Sony Computer Entertainment will remove the functionality through the 3.21 system software update." Updated 3:49 GMT by timothy: An anonymous reader writes "This comes as something of a surprise. Particularly because only a month ago Sony Computer Entertainment management seemed committed to the continued support of the Other OS option on the PS3."

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  1. Sorry kids by piripiri · · Score: 5, Informative

    It doesn't run linux anymore.

    1. Re:Sorry kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm a flaming PS3 fanboy, I think the games on the PS3 are awesome and significantly better than the 360's, and I really love the full functionality of this machine.

      But this really has me seeing red.

      I've been using my PS3 for all kinds of shit. It's got firefox and open office and all kinds of productive capabilities. In linux, the Cell rips DVDs much faster than a conventional CPU can.

      I understand that the black hat community is actively trying to hack the PS3 because it's proven to be very well protected from pirates. I realize Sony is a business and they are simply trying to protect their rights. But this is removing functionality I paid for and own. Telling me this is my option, my choice, but I can no longer log into the Playstation network (which is required to play many games I downloaded for a fee... you have to be connected to their network or the game won't work... which I didn't know until I had a period without a connection) is no option at all.

      They are taking away something that belongs to me. I am really pissed that they couldn't figure out a better way to thwart hackers. Even their own version of Linux, some new version of YDL, that they control, would be better than completely taking away this feature.

      I sold my 360 after it was fixed from a RROD (I still play my SNES and don't need a gimp machine that can't last 20 years). I won't go back to xbox. But I am probably not going to go back to PS4 or PS5. Once this generation is over, I'm back to PC gaming. Fucking Sony. Once again, you've gone a little too far in fighting pirates. Like that root kit thing that was ages ago... people have a hard time forgetting that shit.

    2. Re:Sorry kids by Khyber · · Score: 5, Informative

      By the way, for those of you wanting to join me in the class-action I'm gong to form - just look up Finkelstein and Thompson if you're in the state of CA - they helped me out with Spore and they'll most certainly come in handy for this nonsense NOW.

      100 Bush Street
      San Francisco, CA 94104-3954
      (415) 398-8700

      Ask for Mr. Punzalan.

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    3. Re:Sorry kids by Khyber · · Score: 5, Funny

      My felony record says I'd straighten your ass out for thinking you'd even stand a chance of being a RLTG versus the ITG you're currently portraying, and you'd only bend over and take it. Especially with a name like ClownPenis! What, you gotta inflate your junk first?

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    4. Re:Sorry kids by Zephiris · · Score: 5, Informative

      Given the mention of PC...there's a good reason why it's #86 on PC (4 times lower than San Adreas), instead of #1.

      The PC port was just unjustifiably buggy and lame, with Rockstar withholding fixes for months at a time.

      Given that it's based on critic (not popular) review, you could even say that the 86 position is too damn good for it, especially since USERS give it a mere 4.6/10. http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/grandtheftauto4
        That, is a freaking trainwreck, especially given that it used particularly invasive form of SecuROM DRM which was the principle reason generally agreed upon (perhaps wayback has archives of the GTA4 forums just after release) for it performing so slow. http://www.pcgamefuntime.com/2008/12/grand-theft-auto-iv-drm-debacle/

      You could throw a monster machine at it, and get 14-20FPS, even on low detail and low resolution.

      If you point to how well received console versions were when somebody references the PC port, you clearly don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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    5. Re:Sorry kids by ClownPenis · · Score: 5, Funny

      My felony record says I'd straighten your ass out for thinking you'd even stand a chance of being a RLTG versus the ITG you're currently portraying, and you'd only bend over and take it. Especially with a name like ClownPenis! What, you gotta inflate your junk first?

      Dear felon, Unless you are also rwven, WTF are you doing even responding to me? I clearly "QUOTED" the comment I was replying to. That comment didn't belong to you. You are attacking my junk unprovoked.

    6. Re:Sorry kids by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with your sentiment, but I think you exaggerate. If we stop buying software for 24 months, corporate heads will wake up, and make a lot of concessions - but that won't end proprietary software. And, in fact, I really don't want to see all proprietary software eradicated.

      Hey, even Windows would be a decent buy, for twenty bucks, if they stopped with the WGA nonsense, end their stupid call-home validation processes, and whatever other idiot crap they have in mind. They never should have cared about small time dummies who download a ripped ISO. The only piracy they should EVER have gone after, are OEM's who use pirated Windows, and the mass producers of pirated CD's. I think almost everyone can get behind that sort of anti-piracy.

      Twenty bucks for a legal Win7 CD, and I can re-install it as many times as I wish in my own home, and I'd run right out to buy a copy. At ten times that price, it's nothing but a ripoff, and I will never buy it.

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    7. Re:Sorry kids by AnEducatedNegro · · Score: 5, Funny

      you know what i hate the most when i'm driving? when i use my turn signal to indicate i'm merging and the fucker in the next lane speeds up and doesn't let me in. you know what else i hate the most when i'm driving? fuckers who try to merge into my lane in front of me, so i speed up to block them. fuckers.

      aEN

    8. Re:Sorry kids by Bakkster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with piracy in some respects, I think it's a great tool to get what you want while protesting some aspects such as DRMs, aggressive pricing, inconvenience, etc...

      And this is why we have no effective protests anymore. If you're protesting, it's really only effective if you sacrifice something to do so. Otherwise it's shallow, and the corporation/government/whoever you protest against knows you can be pushed around because you don't really care. If your principles aren't important enough to you to sacrifice while fighting for them, why should they take them seriously? You obviously don't.

      Imagine if the Civil Rights movement had its members get up and leave as soon as they were threatened with arrest? What if they got up from the seats they were occupying in a whites-only cafe because they were hungry? What if they picketted, but only until they were threatened with fire hoses? What if they continued to use public transit during the boycotts, just because it was a long walk? Do you really think anything would have changed?

      By pirating, you let the game publishers know that you can't do without their game, so all they need to do is hold the line, increase the DRM, and eventually they can get you (or others like you) to buy it without giving into your 'demands'. Look at Modern Warfare 2. There was a 'boybott' group on Steam filled with players in MW2 on launch day. It's no wonder IW didn't care that people were upset, they still got paid!

      So don't blow a bunch of smoke up my ass about piracy being a useful protest tool. It likely does more harm to protests than good. Using the word 'protest' is just a convenient justification for "I don't want to pay for this, but I also don't want to feel like I'm doing anything wrong".

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  2. On April 1? by KiltedKnight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Something sounds awfully fishy about this. If it's real, that's not exactly a day I'd want to release something like this.

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  3. Re:False Advertising? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have you ever seen Sony do a good PR move?

  4. I'll take my full refund now sony... Shipping it b by gearloos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How can they sell something with a certain set of features and then just take it away? Thats like Ford saying we are disabling the air conditioners that were previously working on pre 2008 vehicles. WTF? I know, it didn't (doen't) really work all that well (slow) but I did run PowerPC Ubuntu on mine. This is more of an "eroding consumer rights" issue. Why now, considering the rootkit etc.. This just proves once again that Sony gives a rats ass about its customers rights.

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  5. It was going to happen.. by Kagato · · Score: 5, Interesting

    People finally got into the Hypervisor on the PS3. That's pretty much the key to everything from legitimate homebrew to illegitimate pirating. I don't see a way for Sony to secure things in Linux. The Genie is out of the bottle. So this is the option they have taken. It's sad to see even though I never used Linux on it, or know anyone who did. It was nice to know the option was there.

  6. Backlash? by nukem996 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I bought my PS3 for two things, cell development and games. So to play games I need the latest firmware but the latest firmware makes it impossible for me to do cell development. This was an advertised feature when I bought it(a few months after launch) so I don't see how Sony can do this without facing a class action suite.

  7. EFF Help? by flerchin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can't think of a better case for a class action lawsuit. They are extorting us out of features that we paid for. I bought this version of PS3 for several reasons, installing an alternative OS was high among them.

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  8. Re:Greedy idiot kids by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, it doesn't seem that Sony ever gave you anything, if they can take it back whenever they want without you having any say. You are a serf who was granted some small favor from his lord. That small favor was taken back because one of you dared to question him; but sooner or later, for any reason or no reason, lord Sony might have changed their mind anyway.

    Either the PlayStation 3 was secure, or it wasn't. If it was, then there is no reason to take any functionality away. If it wasn't, then it was simply a matter of time before someone, somewhere, by some method, did something that Sony didn't like. Either way, it's all because of Sony. They knew what kind of game they were playing; they've played it a dozen times before, and lost every time.

    As for him achieving nothing useful, and as to whether he had any damn good reason; you have no idea precisely what he achieved, nor what could yet be achieved by him or others as a result of what he achieved.

  9. Cell is a dead end by symbolset · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It might have amounted to something yesterday. Now it's just another fringe platform. In the long story of computer history there have been many processors that have been marginalized by their vendors when they really did rock. The Cell is one, and now it's lost.

    The thing is, I expected that from Sony because that's what they do - so I never bothered to master programming for Cell. They just don't get it. They never did and they never will. They've got some world class engineers and the poor bastards are restrained from ruling the world by the idiots they have in marketing and the executive branch.

    To be fair, Toshiba and IBM (who participated in the Cell design) don't get it either - they'll never release a Cell platform that normal people can afford, and so they'll avoid the synergy that takes it from the fringe to dominance. It'll live and die in their mainframes and that's it - and they'll make a mint migrating their customers to the next fringe platform because God & Everybody knows you can't run mainframe OS's on x86 harware (right?).

    But Sony? No, I expect this from Sony. Some people will find a way to break their DRM and run any OS you want on the thing now - but it's too late. That's too marginal and conditional for people who build stuff. Dammit Sony: we have enough stuff that doesn't work with our other stuff! Will you quit with the breaking flexibility please?

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  10. Re:I'll take my full refund now sony... Shipping i by badasscat · · Score: 5, Informative

    How can they sell something with a certain set of features and then just take it away? I know, it didn't really work all that well....

    1 Because the feature was never advertised

    Wrong.

  11. Re:Bummer ... (1st by c1ay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More than a bummer. This option is what has made the PS3 a popular machine for clusters in the science community. This will be a big set back until a work around turns up.

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  12. Re:Bummer ... (1st by wisdom_brewing · · Score: 5, Funny

    1st of april release? Doesnt that seem a bit... Foolish?

  13. Re:Bummer ... (1st by Inconexo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Idiot?

    Well, you buy a console with X functionalities, and then Sony decides to remove some of them. If you paid for a console which can install other OS, will they return the money to you?

    Figure that they want all consumers to buy the new PS3 and in the next update, they close the functionallity of playing games. Would it be acceptable?

    Is it acceptable to have functionlities removed after you paid for them? Come on!

    Idiot is thinking that because some people abuse something, you can remove it from legal users.