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Amazon Caves To Publishers On eBook Pricing

AusPublishingWorker writes "With the iPad arriving on the scene, it seems that Amazon is feeling the pressure on eBook pricing from publishers. ITNews reports that Amazon has agreed to deals with both Harper Collins and Simon and Schuster which would allow the companies to select their own prices rather than the default US$9.99 price tag. Given the recent deal with Macmillan, it seems likely that we'll be seeing eBook prices moving up towards $14.99 in the near future."

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  1. $14.99 seems way too high for an eBook. by feepness · · Score: 4, Funny

    Therefore I have the right to take it for free.

    1. Re:$14.99 seems way too high for an eBook. by Zumbs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It is high. Particularly when you factor in that the DRM on eBooks locks you to read it using certain readers, and may cause you to loose access to the book you paid for if you buy a new computer, or the publisher takes the DRM servers offline (even accidentally). Unfortunately, putting DRM on books are expensive, as noted by Charlie Stross on his blog, and consumers get to pay the bill.

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    2. Re:$14.99 seems way too high for an eBook. by kenj0418 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Therefore I have the right to take it for free.

      At your local library -- if you bring it back in 2 weeks. Otherwise,no, it doesn't. You not liking their pricing structure does not give you the right to violate their copyright. (Unless you are Google, that is.)

    3. Re:$14.99 seems way too high for an eBook. by linzeal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. When CD prices went from 10-12 bucks to 18-20 bucks suddenly during the mid 90's I stopped buying CDs and I never have bought one since. I go to 20-30 shows a year though and usually buy tour shirts at the show.

      I own a Sony PRS-600, a 1st gen Kindle and an Edge and I have never bought a single e-book because they are worth to me about 3-5 bucks a piece, not 10 bucks. Maybe if you read a book a month that is worth it but I read 2-3 books a week and I'm not about to spend 100+ a month on books when for my entire life buying new and used paper books I have never even come close to that. Can't even sell the damn things. Powell's a book store in PDX where I live I used to be able to recoup 50-60% of the price I paid for the books by trading for store credit, with Amazon, Apple and Sony you get a 10 dollar book sitting in your Library that you will likely never read again.

    4. Re:$14.99 seems way too high for an eBook. by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are correct. He does not have the right. What this kind of rip off gives him however is the motivation. He is not the only one either. There will be many others who feels that these greedy bastards deserve what they get. Too bad about the poor authors caught in the middle.

    5. Re:$14.99 seems way too high for an eBook. by ffreeloader · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you guys not hear a loud Whooosh! as the feepness' sarcasm goes sailing over your heads?

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  2. Before the anti-ebook posts accumulate, by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    let me just give a preemptive counterperspective.

    I buy ebooks and I'll buy them at this price, too.

    Yes, I prefer (by far) reading using ebook readers with eink displays. Since the first Kindle emerged I've probably read 10,000 pages or so using ebook readers. Love them.

    Also, tools exist to unDRM and convert between just about every ebook format, including Mobi, Azw, Topaz, ePub, PDF, Lit, PDB, and others, so books can in fact travel with you as you upgrade devices in the future, should you choose to go this route.

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  3. No thanks by Pop69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I have to pay that much for an ebook I'll just buy the real thing.

    I can resell it when I've read it, I can take it wherever I want and I don't have to worry about someone pressing a button and removing it from my read.

    Best of all, I don't have to spring for the price of a reader before I can even start reading a book

  4. Re:The Real Issue by Scutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with pricing books at $9.99 is the stickiness of the price tag. What is meant by this is consumer' perception of value. Although you can achieve large sales volume at price "below $10", if you ever try to raise the price by even a tiny amount, say $1, consumers *feel* like the markup was much higher than it really is, and sales subsequently drop off heavily.

    You sound like a marketing major. They seem to be the only ones who believe that garbage. I don't know anyone who is fooled by pricing at 9.99 and being told "under $10". Just call it $10.

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  5. Re:The Real Issue by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You sound like a marketing major. They seem to be the only ones who believe that garbage. I don't know anyone who is fooled by pricing at 9.99 and being told "under $10". Just call it $10.

    Almost everyone is fooled by 9.99 and "under $10" pricing.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing
    Endless studies have been done on the matter and it works.

    We like to pretend that demand curves are smooth, but they aren't.
    They go through all kinds of weird contortions because humans are not 100% rational market actors.

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  6. Re:The Real Issue by kainewynd2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know dozens of people who think that way. They're the people on the budgets.

    I've seen it consistently at my mother-in-law's consignment shop and she confirms the behavior over the entire lifetime of the business (which has been in business for 14 years). Price it at $X.99 instead of $X+1 and you'll see almost twice as many sales. Similarly--though much more confusingly--people tend to buy stuff marked "Buy One, Get One 50% off," instead of "Buy One, Get One Free!"

    I really don't get that one...

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  7. Re:$9.99 was too high for an ebook to begin with by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 4, Informative

    ``electroinc books have neither a cost advantage nor a "convenience factor".''

    They are searchable, aren't they?

    And also, for people who move around a lot, electronic books probably have a weight advantage.

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  8. I agree by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and I'm not trolling. DRM has changed the way publishing works. Copyright as it is written in the US constitution has been fundamentally broken by new technology. This is why I hate conservatives. I can't get them to understand that a legal document written 200 years ago might, just might, not be 100% relevant any more. Principles are great when everyone subscribes to them, but when they other guy (the publishers) runs roughshod over them it's time to do the same.

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    1. Re:I agree by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is why I hate conservatives. I can't get them to understand that a legal document written 200 years ago might, just might, not be 100% relevant any more.

      It's not enough to simply show that a law might not be relevant; you have to show that it is not relevant. The law prevents expedient copying from devaluing new artworks, which are both in demand and (unlike the copies thereof) scarce. The faster and cheaper the copying technology, the less likely a person is to support the artist, the less likely the artist will create a new work.

      Copying has only become faster and cheaper. Now, more than ever, copyright is relevant.

      Now here comes the difficult bit: convincing you that a legal document written 200 years ago might still be relevant. It wouldn't be the first, and I believe certain other documents (e.g. magna carta) break this record.

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  9. More reasonable pricing by IceDiver · · Score: 5, Informative

    Considering the fact that you get no physical copy and are encumbered by DRM, it seems to me that fair pricing is as follows:
    $9.99 for the period when the only physical copy available for sale is hardcover,
    $4.99 once the paperback comes out.

    Anything above these prices is, to me, a rip-off.

    This explains why I have never purchased an e-book, yet the bookshelves in my home are overflowing.

  10. Re:$9.99 was too high for an ebook to begin with by Scarletdown · · Score: 4, Funny

    While I consume multiple novels at the same time

    You consume your books? Aren't you aware that books were meant to be read and not eaten?

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  11. Amazon was trying to protect them by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They were only trying to protect publishers from themselves. Amazon knows a lot more about what customers will pay for ebooks than publishers do, and their tactics which appeared heavy handed existed because it was the point where the maximum amount of profit could be obtained. Yes the $9.99 price point would hurt the sale of physical books, but you sell so many ebooks at that price that makes up for it tremendously.

    The only concern publishers had was that in public you couldn't tell what books other people were reading if they all had Kindles. They felt they lost some free advertising when going to ebooks. What they failed to realize is with an ebook reader attached to a network you can tie it into twitter or facebook which is a far more powerful advertising vehicle than some random stranger in public.

    It's really pitiful that publishers are incapable of adapting to the realities of the 21st century. Amazon tried to drag them there kicking and screaming, but have failed.

    (ex Amazon employee, so my views may be biased)

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  12. Re:More Media BS by B5_geek · · Score: 4, Informative

    I suggest you look into the Sony PRS-505. Sony & the publishers can't do shit to the stuff I have put on my reader.

    It supports damn near every format of displaying books (use Calibre if you don't like a format), it reads the data from an SD-card.

    The fact that it doesn't connect wireless to the world is a GOOD THING.

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  13. Re:The Real Issue by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 4, Funny

    Almost everyone is fooled by 9.99 and "under $10" pricing.

    Those people are known as women and they do that to justify their spending addictions.

  14. Authors agree: $14.99 way too high for an eBook. by AJWM · · Score: 4, Informative

    A lot of authors (and I'm one) would agree with you on the pricing issue -- if not on the "right" to take it for free. Some of them will give it to you if you ask nicely (or visit their website) though.

    Author J.A. Konrath has been blogging recently about how much he's been making ($4200 last month) off of his low priced ($1.99, $2.99) e-books on Kindle (books he's selling directly, vs others of his that his publisher is selling at higher prices). Unsurprisingly, lower priced books sell better than higher priced ones -- and in his and a few other authors' cases, they're selling pro-quality, professionally edited stories, not unreadable crud by a newbie author. His view is that the high prices publishers want to charge for e-books is a serious mistake, and in his next book deals he's not going to give e-rights to the publisher unless they fork over some serious (six-figure) cash for them, and a better percentage royalty.

    This very much parallels what some bands are doing with distributing their music themselves rather than going through RIAA companies. Indeed the term "indie author" is catching on.

    There still needs to be some vetting of an unknown author's work, either by traditional publishing or word of mouth and reviews from early readers, but the change is coming. I'm certainly considering making some of my own work (initially previously-published stuff to which I have e-rights) available that way. Even a little success that way gives a bit more leverage with a traditional publisher (which is still the most profitable route to go and will be for a few more years yet).

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