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Android Copy of Young Woman Unveiled In Japan
An anonymous reader writes "According to IEEE Spectrum, Japanese roboticist Hiroshi Ishiguro, who had previously built a robot copy of himself, has now created a new android — and it's a 'she.' Geminoid F, a copy of a woman in her 20s with long dark hair, exhibits facial expressions more naturally than Ishiguro's previous android. 'Whereas the Geminoid HI-1 has some 50 actuators, the new Geminoid F has just 12. What's more, the HI-1 robot requires a large external box filled with compressors and valves. With Geminoid F, the researchers embedded air servo valves and an air servo control system into its body, so the android requires only a small external compressor.' It's also much better looking. Has the Japanese android master finally overcome the uncanny valley?"
I want one that looks like my girlfriend! Man, I'm gonna hack myself a mute-button into this one :D She's gonna be like, perfect!
My dreams of a robot girlfriend are one step closer to being actualized
There are two kinds of fool. One says, This is old, and therefore good. And one says, This is new, and therefore better.
Since it's from Japan, I assume you can have sex with it, and it will be on the market in three months.
Has the old saint in his forest not yet heard of it? That God is dead?
Google is taking this new technology to amazing heights!
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
I'm down with my real doll android, aka Cherry 2000, being able to go get me a beer and thrust back, but as soon as she starts yappin at me, it's back to the whores.
Ave Molech Setting
You lazy bastard :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijMCSfX0RA ;) happy eastern!
Does the android come with the tentacle monster? Or is it sold separately?
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
So... how much longer till they produce one that passes the Voight-Kampff test?
Freedom is drinking a beer in the park when you're supposed to be at work.
Just check out the uncanny valley on that one!
No.
File under 'M' for 'Manic ranting'
...is she anatomically correct ??
It doesn't really matter ... someone will find a way to screw it even if it's sealed tighter than an iPad.
We're not even at the bottom of the valley yet. That thing is clearly a robot, nothing uncanny about it. Most importantly it needs a better mouth and small natural body movements.
This is exactly the valley. It looks like a robot. The valley is huge, and it won't be solved by 12 actuators. Unless you're mostly blind.
I know a few co-workers who'll probably all be Apple apologists about this next time I see them and promise the iPhone copy of a young woman will come soon, but I gotta say, I knew the open nature of the platform would make it possible on Android first, meaning my trusty Nexus One can...
Oh, wait, that's not what you... oh, I see. *sigh*
Demanding constant attention will only lead to attention.
Skin is an organ and can be grown or transplanted on a suitable substrate. Already in the works.. So I am guessing that it is just a hop skip and jump to a real cyborg. It would probably be cheaper too and self repairing.
Cherry 2010 and if it follows Moore's law they will be posting on slashdot by Cherry 2020.
I would guess that this would be a life extension method at its completion, which allows space for the brain and spinal cord along with an interface. I think that is another of those uncanny valleys.
Though it does seem more like a science fiction movie such as reanimator.
Having had my ear to the ground in robotics for the last few years, it seems to me that this is a wasted effort. Much more fundamental problems in robot-human interaction, basic things like being able to track a moving object in the room, or walking on two legs without having each movement preprogrammed, have yet to be solved reliably. Even if she looked perfect, the fact that she'd trip and fall over any unexpected bump in the floor and won't have the software to make eye contact or shake your hand will make the valley very very deep.
The eyes seem better than his last effort, but the mouth area is really where it falls short. There isn't enough subtlety in mimicking muscle movements around the lip area, and the mouth opening and closing is a real giveaway. Although the jaw hinge seems a bit off, I think what's really going on is the lack of skin movement during articulation. The "skin" not visibly stretching creates a plastic, robotic appearance. Still, it's interesting work. I don't agree that we should be making robots that look like people though. It seems like a conscious attempt at anthropomorphism, and even if the physical appearance eventually becomes flawless, there will always be an uncanny valley in the way the robot fails to act with human subtlety.
...can she FOLD TOWELS?
Can you get electrocuted during bukakke?
I killed da wabbit -Elmer Fudd
That's hot.
You are welcome on my lawn.
CGI animators, in some sense, have a much easier task then the roboticist. Its much easier to program a full musculature into an animated character than to physically build a robotic one.
The difficulty of all this is exemplified by Robert Zemeckis' dismal "Polar Express" and "A Christmas Carol". Even when capturing hundreds of control points on the faces of the actors, you're still left teetering on the edge of the Uncanny Valley.
"The Curious Case of Benjamin Button" and "Avatar" were more successful because they did complete surface capture of the actors faces rather than point-capture.
Which gets back to the difficulty of making robots appear human. Its the same problem, magnified 1000 times by the fact that, in essence, you have to pack the equivalent of a millions of "control-points" into the robots face.
Not an easy task.
-Sean
WOW! The robot band at Chucky Cheese is going to be so psyched!
If it runs Windows you'll end up getting viruses. If it runs something Apple you'll pay for updates (or monthly fees). If it runs Linux you'll have to spend an insane amount of time with it to make it right.
At least with this you get to choose which of the three you want to deal with, whereas with a real life relationship, well, you might get all three at once.
"exhibits facial expressions more naturally "
What facial expressions? All I saw in the video were mouth movement up and down and eyes moved.
The texture of the skin is amazingly natural as well as posture, but "facial expressions"?
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Inconceivable! Nothing could be a tighter fuck than my iPad!
which is totally what she said
Sounds like my first gf's vague moustache
which is totally what she said
NOT that you can fuck it - again - see the real doll site for perfectly fuckable pieces of plastic.
The REAL question is: Does she swallow? That takes sensitivity, judgment, timing, and a willingness to hoover baby batter.
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
DON'T DATE ROBOTS!.
I certainly hope this story doesn't turn into a modern day retelling of Pygmalion .
-Valen
Yes, but it may make it easier to replace people at tasks where you don't need human-level sentience, like fast food. Just because we're safe for a little while in highly educated professions doesn't mean this can't profoundly change the world.
> Making a robot look and outwardly act like a human is a long way off from making one with human level sentience.
-- IANAL, this isn't legal advice, and definitely isn't legal advice for you. Also, Squee!
It's not so much an feeling of "ooh, that's so weird" as going from the point where you're impressed at how well-made and interesting looking it is to being unimpressed at the remaining flaws.
In this case, it has a well-made face, but the fact that it doesn't move much except in starts and sputters makes it look palsied. It's not exceptionally creepy. It's just mildly unpleasant to look at in ways that something totally unrealistic like C3PO isn't.
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