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iPad Progress Report

Now that the 300,000 early adopters have had a few days to play and work with their iPads, we're moving beyond the "first impressions" articles (but here's a video of a 2-1/2-year-old's first encounter with the device). The detailed reviews aren't out yet. The largest source of early complaints is a complex of problems with Wi-Fi reception. Apple has posted a technical support note implicitly acknowledging the problems and suggesting some work-arounds — specifically, changing SSIDs or encryption methods on base stations that offer both 2.4-GHz and 5.8-GHz signals. Finally, here's a detailed look at the gratuitous pain Apple imposes on those desiring to get iWork files transferred from and to the iPad.

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  1. early adaptor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    WTF is that?

    1. Re:early adaptor? by Trepidity · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the grandparent post was commenting on kdawson using "early adapter" instead of "early adopter" in the post. Presumably, an early adapter is someone who is among the first to adapt to the revolutionary new world that the Jesus Tablet brings us.

    2. Re:early adaptor? by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Funny
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    3. Re:early adaptor? by blair1q · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's apple. You have to change to fit its model of the interface between a human and a computer. Losing 40 lbs and putting on a turtleneck sweater wouldn't hurt.

    4. Re:early adaptor? by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Losing 40 lbs and putting on a turtleneck sweater wouldn't hurt.

      Won't somebody think of the turtles?

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  2. Other solutions to the wifi problem by adeelarshad82 · · Score: 4, Informative

    other solutions to the wi-fi problems.

    1. Re:Other solutions to the wifi problem by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Informative

      From your link Apple suggests:
      1. update your router's firmware
      2. change your router's location
      3. set your router to operate on one 802.11 standard
      4. change your router's security
      5. rename your networks

      In the reported cases only the newly released iPad is having problems, but according to Apple the problem is with your router.

    2. Re:Other solutions to the wifi problem by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      In the reported cases only the newly released iPad is having problems, but according to Apple the problem is with your router.

      Well, obviously. If you have two devices, one of which is perfect, and a problem, obviously the device that is not perfect is the problem.

      What do they teach you kids in logic these days?

    3. Re:Other solutions to the wifi problem by RJHelms · · Score: 5, Informative

      At the very least, step 1 is not so absurd.

      A while back, the girlfriend bought a Macbook, which was the first Apple device that ever tried to connect to my router over WiFi. Even 6" away from the router, the Macbook would not connect; any PC we tried would work all (15 feet) across the apartment.

      I was prepared to chalk it up to shoddy Apple networking hardware, but on a whim tried a firmware upgrade. Lo and behold, after the router rebooted the Macbook immediately recognized it and connected without issue.

      I have no idea what/where the actually problem was, but if Apple had suggested the exact same list of steps to me they would've been right on the money.

    4. Re:Other solutions to the wifi problem by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nonsense.

      There is very little barrier to running whatever OS you want to on your Mac. The fact that the "BIOS" allows for this is not different from the fact that the BIOS on any other PC supports booting up Windows, Linux, FreeBSD or Solaris.

      A Mac comes with what you need to get it running something other than MacOS.

      That's a bit different from needing to hack the device in some way to achieve this (ipod, appletv).

      Although once you hack an AppleTV you will see that it too is pretty much just a PC.

      The only reason I don't have more Macs running Linux is that the PC market in general caught up and now the price and feature advantages of a mini aren't there anymore. This will happen with tablets too soon enough. Although the ipad will gain a lot more traction by that time when compared to minis.

      It's not really accurate to call Apple a computer company anymore...

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    5. Re:Other solutions to the wifi problem by vux984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do realize, of course, that many peripheral manufacturers not only test against Windows ONLY; but also silently program around bugs in Microsoft's implementations of standards in general.

      Quite aware.

      Apple is absolutely correct to follow the published standard to the letter.

      In most situations yes, I would agree. However in any situation where one (e.g. Apple) is deploying your minority of hardware into an established environment, the onus falls on them to ensure their hardware works in that environment.

      Afterall, isn't that why it's called a STANDARD?

      In an ideal world sure. In the world in which I live I can update the firmware in my Mac so that it copes with a flawed router at starbucks or my hotel or a clients office, I can't update the firmware at starbucks, the hotel, or a clients office.

      My laptop is only valuable and useful if it works in these places. And so far, its been pretty hit and miss. So far, I've had to replace my home router to satisfy my newest mac; I had to downgrade a friends mac from snow leopard back to leopard so that it would work on an office network he did not control, and I've had to suffer through unbearable internet at a hotel on multiple occasions, while my wifes pc worked flawlessly.

      Finally, all this assumes Apple actually followed the standard and its all these vendors with horrific buggy systems. Quite bluntly, Apple is not perfect, and it would be absurd to presume they got everything right, and its all these other vendors who keep getting it wrong. Some of the technical blame lies at apples feet.

      And some of the blame that genuinely lies at the feet of other vendors COULD be resolved by Apple if it were so inclined. And it SHOULD take ownership of solving these issues when it can. Customers want laptops that 'just work'; that's what they keep promising.

      And above all, in my experience, a lot of the problems could be resolved within a subset of the standard. Often a standard specifies behavior X, and a device doesn't implement this properly, and windows isn't affected because it never requests behavior X. If that's the case, Apple could make their software work too with all these devices, by simply avoiding feature X. Note that by doing this Apple would STILL be following the standard to the letter.

    6. Re:Other solutions to the wifi problem by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm no fanboi, but I would hazard a guess that the issues you encountered were because the Mac followed the spec more precisely than the Windows boxes.

      Look, I'm a /. reader. The router I had to replace to satisfy my new Macbook Pro worked fine for years. It was fine with my XP box, my fathers dell laptop with Vista, my toshiba laptop running ubuntu, and the unit I was running the Windows 7 beta on. It also ran fine with my Nintendo Wii and my wife's blackberry. (I have an iphone, but I don't use its wifi since I have far more data via 3G than I need, so I have wifi off.)

      But no, your probably right, the reason the Mac choked up and constantly lost connection was that it "followed the spec more closely" than all these other units, several of which are not even based on windows. ;)

      I honestly believe you when you say your no fanboi, but when you have a set of disparate devices that all work together fine, and then you add a new device in and the new device doesn't work, frankly its absurd to presume as your default starting point that the new device "must follow the specs better".

  3. Wi-Fi problems by Pojut · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Our neighbor picked up an iPad on launch day, and he has definitely experienced the Wi-Fi problem. His Acer Aspire One in his basement can connect to his wireless G Linksys router on his top floor with a good, strong signal. His iPad can BARELY connect while he is on his ground floor, and in his basement you can forget about it. His Aspire One can also see our wireless network as well as the network belonging to folks on the other side of him, but even if he shoves his iPad against the wall dividing our town homes, he still can't even see our router, much less connect to it.

    1. Re:Wi-Fi problems by Casca · · Score: 5, Funny

      How exactly is this a problem? Just buy an apple airport wireless extender and problem solved.

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    2. Re:Wi-Fi problems by Anonymusing · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ah yes, the great Apple solution: buy more stuff from Apple!

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    3. Re:Wi-Fi problems by alphax45 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The problem is that you shouldn't have to buy another device so that your iPad works with a router that everything else works with. It really seems like something is wrong with the Wi Fi in the iPad..

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    4. Re:Wi-Fi problems by Tibor+the+Hun · · Score: 3, Funny

      Is Gnutella like a free Nutella?

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  4. Re:The baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
  5. Why did they not wait for 4.0? by CompressedAir · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It sure seems strange to me that Apple, who sell themselves as the "complete" and "it just works" experience would release the iPad before the next version of iPhoneOS comes out. This sounds like the kind of giant pay-to-beta-test sort of thing that Apple is known for NOT doing.

    As someone who uses an iPhone and would like an iPad, Thursday will be very interesting.

    Is anyone else reminded of the 10.0 release of OSX?

    1. Re:Why did they not wait for 4.0? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It sure seems strange to me that Apple, who sell themselves as the "complete" and "it just works" experience would release the iPad before the next version of iPhoneOS comes out. This sounds like the kind of giant pay-to-beta-test sort of thing that Apple is known for NOT doing.

      Think about that. Apple released a new product on an older but proven OS. iPhone OS 3.2 is a version of iPhone OS specifically modified for iPad. It was released in beta back in Jan 2010. You're advocating that they should have released a brand new product on a new, unproven OS (4.0 which hasn't been released outside of Apple yet). Sounds like Apple is trying to avoid the beta-testing you're accusing them of doing.

      Also this week they will announce/release the beta version of 4.0 to developers. It will be at least a few months after release before the OS moves from beta to final. That would have to delay the launch of iPad for a few more months.

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  6. Re:Wait, what? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Informative
  7. Re:Free The iPad Of Apple Domination by 1729 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Soon? My first Linux tablet was in the mid 80s.

    That's impressive. Especially since Linux was created in 1991.

  8. Probably not 300k by Luthair · · Score: 3, Insightful

    According to PCWorld, the Apple press release citing 300k units is including those sold to Bestbuy, which is of course entirely different from the number of units sold by Bestbuy.

    1. Re:Probably not 300k by ProppaT · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm not really bothered by the 300k number. I'm sure there's nearly that many Apple zealots waiting to get their hands on one to begin with. What I'm curious about is how many of those 300k people are people who are just going to buy the next Apple gadget on launch day vs. those who bought it out of genuine interest. Also, I'm curious if this will drive up the sales of iPod Touches when people go out to get an iPad but realize they can save a few hundred dollars and basically have the same functionality + portability. Personally, I hope it flops...we don't need Apple dictating, shaping, and propriatizing yet another format...but that's just an off topic rant.

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  9. Re:No problem. by cabjf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You must not have dealt with IBM in a business setting much. They practically invented vendor lock in.

  10. Re:No problem. by Kitkoan · · Score: 4, Informative

    You cant just buy your own graphics card, more hardware, or even a damn battery for iPhone. You have to buy everything from Apple, from an Apple store, with high Apple prices. This just follows the same lead.

    Buying RAM for a Mac: http://www.newerram.com/

    Buying a new graphics card for a Mac (Mac edition of graphics cards): http://www.nextag.com/mac-graphics-card/compare-html

    Pretty much everything you need to upgrade the hardware of a Mac: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/site-map/

    These aren't Apple sites, but you can upgrade your Mac with their parts. Just because its harder to do, doesn't mean it can't be done.

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  11. Re:Arbitrary eBook reading? by Shadis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, yes you can. Check out the section of the IPad user guide for ibooks ( http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/iPad_User_Guide.pdf ). You can import any non-DRM epub formatted file into ITunes and then Sync that with the ipad.

  12. Re:Arbitrary eBook reading? by joh · · Score: 4, Informative

    What I'm really interested to know is will the iPad allow me to write a book, save in unencrypted ePub format, and upload it to my own device, to be read by iBooks?

    Yes. Drag your ePub file into iTunes, sync with the iPad, done. Or publish your book via smashwords (free), get it into the iBooks store this way and install it right from the iPad ;-)

  13. Sucks outside in bright light by Shivetya · · Score: 4, Interesting

    especially sunlight. Sorry but with this type of device I was really hoping I could use it outdoors without fearing the light. No go. Sorry its abysmal. It also has the problem of not being viewable in page format with polarized lenses, landscape was fine. When I borrowed my friends Kindle I found I could read outside just fine. Let alone the weight, sorry but it really amazes me how much it gets to you over time.

    I don't need another device that is trapped indoors. Summer is almost upon us and I don't want something I fear leaving in the sun, let alone using with the sun out. I guess I can sit under the umbrella but really, my marine GPS is beautiful in sunlight, why can't we have an iPad for the outdoors instead of basement dwellers?

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  14. But Apple is known for screwing up from time to ti by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sometimes Apple has a period of greatness and then they have a period of... well, not so greatness. Maybe it is time again?

    Personally, I don't know. The Wifi problems sound odd, but then again, who exactly thought putting an metal shield on an antenna was a good idea? But surely Apple would have tested that.

    I think what we are finding is that a lot of people are putting this device under an intense microscope, determined to find any and all flaws and blow them up out of proportion. High trees catch a lot of wind, especially if they fail to fall in previous gusts of hot air. Anyone remember people scoffing the iPod and iPhone? They must be getting desperate for Apple to have one of its famous screw-ups again.

    I think Apple had a simple reason to launch the iPad now. One of its uses is to go outside and use it. Who is going to go outside in the winter? And soonish they will have to announce a new macbook pro anyway (core 2 duo is getting very long in the tooth) and that makes more sense later in the year, and two must have's should be seperated so the victim eh customer has time to recover from the bloodletting that is called buying an Apple product.

    Frankly, I have seen all this negativity before. I don't put much stock in it. If someone were to introduce fire in this day and age, people would find plenty of stuff wrong with it and claim that nobody really needs it.

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  15. Re:But Apple is known for screwing up from time to by CompressedAir · · Score: 5, Funny

    Requires sticks. Dimmer than the sun. Lame.

  16. root by jDeepbeep · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a sad day when getting root on my own device is considered 'hacking'

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  17. Re:No problem. by jpmorgan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Except how many Macs these days have user replacable graphics cards for example?

  18. Re:The baby by moonbender · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Literally nobody who's interested in buying an iPad will be surprised that the other side does not contain a second screen (or a second iPad) -- don't be ridiculous. And saying that it's designed to "look like" some MS vaporware product that nobody has ever heard of so far is just as silly. I'd say the case looks a bit odd to me, plasticky; but I've never been one for protective cases, anyway.

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  19. Yes, hacking. by RulerOf · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I understand your sentiment, but it very likely is hacking, particularly in the purest sense of the word.

    So, in true Slashdot spirit:

    It's a sad day when getting root on my own device requires 'hacking'

    FTFY.

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  20. Re:No problem. by stewbacca · · Score: 4, Informative

    That is such a tired, untrue, cliched argument. Granted, you can't easily go to Best Buy and purchase a battery for the iPhone, but I assure you I can find one online in about 1 minute.

    Apple doesn't even make graphic cards, so yes, you actually can go buy a third party graphic card and put it in a Mac (granted, only the Pro is expandable these days, but my G4 has had all kinds of 3rd party stuff inside).

    "More hardware"? What does that mean? I've purchased all kinds of non-Apple hardware over the years: USB and wireless mice, keyboards, hard drives, wireless routers, wireless USB adapters, USB hubs, monitors, printers, and so on.

    The only Apple hardware I own other than the computers is Airport Extreme and a video adapter. Yeah, the Extreme costs $100 more than some random junk at Best Buy, but Time Machine worked instantly out-of-the-box, which was well worth the extra $100 I spent.

    Next argument.

  21. Re:The baby by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How is selling ~300,000 units in one day disappointing?

  22. of course it's a problem with your router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My Apple product is brand new.
    My router is old and dusty.
    Maybe I should get a new shiny router.
    Maybe Apple could sell me a shiny new router?

  23. Re:But Apple is known for screwing up from time to by fatwilbur · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, Apple is 'worth' over $210 billion dollars. Reminds me of two years ago when my neighbor said his small bungalow house was 'worth' half a million dollars.

    I'm not going to venture a guess as to what Apple is REALLY worth as a company, but when something is so extremely hyped in the media, it's stock is almost guaranteed to be overvalued.

  24. Re:The baby by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They didn't sell 300,000 units in one day, or even one weekend. They sold 300,000 on 4 months of constant hype and reporting, and finally completed those sales in one weekend.

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